Let me just say one other thing. The guy was speeding, deserved a ticket, got one.. but getting zapped by the taser was just the cop’s way of punishing the man.
That he refused to sign the ticket isn’t the cop’s problem... he had the fact that he handed the ticket to the guy on camera and on tape. That was SUFFICIENT and he would have been better off letting the guy go on his way.
His act was outrageous. The speeder wasn’t threatening the cop, merely refusing to sign a stupid ticket. I don’t have to SIGN anything, I don’t HAVE to put my signature on ANY piece of paper I don’t want to. No one can FORCE you to sign something - that is called DURESS and putting a law on the books to MAKE you sign something is nothing more than the government yet again, forcing it’s will on individuals.
So don’t tell me the cop wasn’t in the wrong. he WAS
Let me just say one other thing. The guy was speeding, deserved a ticket, got one.. but getting zapped by the taser was just the cop’s way of punishing the man.
That he refused to sign the ticket isn’t the cop’s problem... he had the fact that he handed the ticket to the guy on camera and on tape. That was SUFFICIENT and he would have been better off letting the guy go on his way.
His act was outrageous. The speeder wasn’t threatening the cop, merely refusing to sign a stupid ticket. I don’t have to SIGN anything, I don’t HAVE to put my signature on ANY piece of paper I don’t want to. No one can FORCE you to sign something - that is called DURESS and putting a law on the books to MAKE you sign something is nothing more than the government yet again, forcing it’s will on individuals.
So don’t tell me the cop wasn’t in the wrong. he WAS
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Bullshit. Sorry for the profanity but its fitting here. The driver got out of his vehicle and followed the cop to his patrol car. Big no, no. The driver was animated and in a heated anger. An inexcusable action sending all the wrong signals to the officer. The driver refused reasonable orders by the cop to ensure both their safety. BIG, BIG TIME no, no.
What was the cop to do, wait till he was knifed, hit, shot, spit upon before defending himself? He had no idea what type of mental stability this driver had and took appropriate action.
The driver is culpable in his own tasering. Both times. That may seem harsh, but he should never, never, never have gotten out of his car and followed the cop to his patrol car in a heated rage. This in the cop’s training, and rightly so, rasied the stakes of a dangerous and possible life or limb threatening situation. And all over a STUPID SPEEDING TICKET.
I’m with the cop, fully on his side. I want my law enforcement officers to know that they can do their job and not worry about living to see the next day.
Let me just say one other thing. The guy was speeding, deserved a ticket, got one.. but getting zapped by the taser was just the cop’s way of punishing the man.
That he refused to sign the ticket isn’t the cop’s problem... he had the fact that he handed the ticket to the guy on camera and on tape. That was SUFFICIENT and he would have been better off letting the guy go on his way.
His act was outrageous. The speeder wasn’t threatening the cop, merely refusing to sign a stupid ticket. I don’t have to SIGN anything, I don’t HAVE to put my signature on ANY piece of paper I don’t want to. No one can FORCE you to sign something - that is called DURESS and putting a law on the books to MAKE you sign something is nothing more than the government yet again, forcing it’s will on individuals.
So don’t tell me the cop wasn’t in the wrong. he WAS
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Bullshit. Sorry for the profanity but its fitting here. The driver got out of his vehicle and followed the cop to his patrol car. Big no, no. The driver was animated and in a heated anger. An inexcusable action sending all the wrong signals to the officer. The driver refused reasonable orders by the cop to ensure both their safety. BIG, BIG TIME no, no.
What was the cop to do, wait till he was knifed, hit, shot, spit upon before defending himself? He had no idea what type of mental stability this driver had and took appropriate action.
The driver is culpable in his own tasering. Both times. That may seem harsh, but he should never, never, never have gotten out of his car and followed the cop to his patrol car in a heated rage. This in the cop’s training, and rightly so, rasied the stakes of a dangerous and possible life or limb threatening situation. And all over a STUPID SPEEDING TICKET.
I’m with the cop, fully on his side. I want my law enforcement officers to know that they can do their job and not worry about living to see the next day.
As I understand the technicalities, the signature is a promise to appear to answer the ticket. If you don't sign, then you're refusing to agree to appear, so the recourse the officer has is to take you into immediate custody and bring you before a judge or magistrate to answer the ticket.
Your signature on the ticket is like posting bail. I wish more drivers understood this, so stupid confrontations over signing the ticket would be unnecessary.
In all sincerity, what should the cop have done with somebody who clearly was not listening to him?
He was told three times to put his hands behind his back or to turn around. He then was backing away from the cop, back towards the car and did not stop.
That was when he got zapped. What do you feel the cop should have done to get the guy under control?
Note also, while in the car he admitted to going 58 mph, later he says he was not speeding. The cop clearly told him why he was pulled over ('going a little fast'). The man later says he was not told why he was getting a ticket.
Sorry, but based on the tape, the tazing was within guidelines.
“So don’t tell me the cop wasn’t in the wrong. he WAS”
Absolutely. This is the first time I’ve seen this video. He says sign the ticket, the guy says no. He says get out of the car, the guy does. The guy follows him back to the trooper’s car, he’s pointing at the speed limit sign, pointing out it’s a speed trap, and the cop draws down on him with the taser, and starts yelling at him. The guy turns his back to him, and he zaps him. Here we go again, contempt of cop. $40,000? The State got off cheap.