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To: najida
Sigh..... I never said that it was psychologically easy to eat less... just that the actual function of losing weight is an easy solution... eat less. And yes, it takes time... never said otherwise.

And the medical situations you are describing really only fit a small subset of the population that is obese (men and women).

I've had plenty of chuckles listening to very fat people complain about their "metabolism" after stuffing their faces with 3 times the food I just ate. I pass on desert, don't drink soda and eat reasonable portions because I actually care enough to make that sacrifice. Selfish people don't care enough to limit themselves.

And you assume that all men who think their wives should care enough to lose weight are "selfish louts". LOL Your bias is showing.

I consider a woman who lets her self go to be a selfish lout myself, and the man would be better off leaving that type of person as well. Let the next guy deal with a woman who cares so little about her husband that she refuses to be fit for him. So I guess it works out!!
368 posted on 03/12/2008 4:29:41 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm

I do two things-— work in nutrition and teach dance.

Most of my clients and students are female.

I’m a female. Yes, I do have a bias. In my job, I hear their sides of the story (unfair but dems da breaks) I see them struggle, I see their self-esteem in the toilet, I see them struggle more, and many I see just give the hell up and quit trying....

(And this isn’t just weight, it’s eating D/O, diabetes etc)

The ones who do best are those with really good family support, either from spouses, children etc... Those that fail usually have either someone sabotaging them or simply no one who cares.

Now, for the dance, as in a post earlier...the women who show up because their husbands ask them to show up for belly dance? Almost always fail....and the reason is they are there to make someone who doesn’t care for them love them (usually). To a woman, their self-esteem is in the pits and it breaks my heart.

The ones who succeed, dance beautifully and make their hubbies proud are the ones who came for themselves and dance for themselves (and me). Right down to the navel piercings and picking out the coolest costumes....there is a big difference in the groups.


370 posted on 03/12/2008 4:37:44 PM PDT by najida (Your advice is like offering a Twinkie to Julia Childs.)
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To: StolarStorm

I should know better...but...I have to ask. What exactly is ‘lets herself go?’ Ten pounds, twenty, thirty? Starting out brunette and ending up gray (but if she loved him she’d dye her hair)? Crows feet (honey, if ya loved me you would BoTox). Does a bad marriage equate to a bad manicure? There is morbid obesity and there is middle aged ‘spread.’ I just find your comments curious...


376 posted on 03/12/2008 4:54:07 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Yoi. And double yoi.)
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