Inside the hush-hush North American Union confab

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | March 13, 2008 | Jerome R. Corsi

[Man50D]

WASHINGTON -- A largely unreported meeting held at the State Department discussed integration of the U.S., Mexico and Canada in concert with a move toward a transatlantic union, linking a North American community with the European Union.

The meeting was held Monday under the auspices of the Advisory Committee on International Economic Policy, or ACIEP. WND obtained press credentials and attended as an observer. The meeting was held under "Chatham House" rules that prohibit reporters from attributing specific comments to individual participants.

The State Department website noted the meeting was opened by Assistant Secretary of State for Economic, Energy and Business Affairs Daniel S. Sullivan and ACIEP Chairman Michael Gadbaw, vice president and senior counsel for General Electric's International Law & Policy group since December 1990.

WND observed about 25 ACIEP members, including U.S. corporations involved in international trade, prominent U.S. business trade groups, law firms involved with international business law, international investment firms and other international trade consultants.

No members of Congress attended the meeting.

The agenda for the ACIEP meeting was not published, and State Department officials in attendance could not give WND permission under Chatham House rules to publish the agenda.

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Not this crap again.

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

The meeting was held under "Chatham House" rules that prohibit reporters from attributing specific comments to individual participants.

WTF?

[1rudeboy]

It’s the polite way of saying, “don’t bother the adults with your nonsense, WND reporter-boy, go buy some candy.” Just say, “sorry, Chatham rules.”

[Man50D]

Not this crap again.

You're absolutely right. Having the Bush administration continually trying to erase our borders to advance the socialistic cause is a bunch of cr*p.

[maquiladora]

The last time I heard about this it was in between a discussion on alien UFO abductions and a story about ghost hunters, on Coast To Coast Am.

[RoadTest]

There’s a place for skepticism, but it’s not where an eyewitness reports a real meeting and shows that it is true fact.

[shadowgovernment]

The attempt to discredit the major events moving USA to an EU style government is expected.

Those that post attacks have no data to support their positions

While those pointing out the SPP and other moves such as
super highways thru the middle of our country which avoid customs at our borders are concrete facts.

Folks disinformation and ridicule is the only weapon these
Socialist flunkies can use to try to keep the lid on the
loss of our sovereignty.

[1rudeboy]

Sure. That’s why the WND reporter was allowed to attend the meeting and report on it . . . because it’s all a secret.

[wolfcreek]

“Not this crap again.”

The reason people deny the facts is because they feel powerless to do anything about it.

[Man50D]

Sure. That’s why the WND reporter was allowed to attend the meeting and report on it . . . because it’s all a secret.

State Department officials were very open about the meeting. That's why they prevented the agenda from being published or attributing statements to specific individuals under the bogus "Chatham House Rules". Aren't all meetings conducted in a similar manner?

[Man50D]

The reason people deny the facts is because they feel powerless to do anything about it.

That's one reason. It's much easier to do this than deal than confront those who seek to destroy our national sovereignty.

Another is they agree with the replacing our Democratic Republic with socialism.

[1rudeboy]

I'll bet you ten bucks that this "unpublishable" agenda appears as an appendix in Corsi's next book, much like his "secret" list of participants at that meeting up in Banff ended up in The Late Great USA. Did you know you can get an autographed copy from WND for just $19.95?

[Man50D]

I'll bet you ten bucks that this "unpublishable" agenda appears as an appendix in Corsi's next book, much like his "secret" list of participants at that meeting up in Banff ended up in The Late Great USA. Did you know you can get an autographed copy from WND for just $19.95?

You're showing your desperation by attempting to go off topic. Try to focus on the subject and the fact that the Bush administration is trying to cede U.S. national sovereignty to advance the socialist cause of a North American Union.

[1rudeboy]

Something is not "off topic" simply because you say so. Chatham rules allow the reporter to report on everything except to identify who said it. Note that the WND reporter appears to have no problem doing so.

In other words, the agenda-issue is a red herring--exactly like the participant-issue from months ago.

You probably fell for that one, too. Corsi went on and on (and on and on and on) about it for months . . . I wonder how many of those months he actually had the list of participants in his possession?

[wolfcreek]

Would you be *comfortable* with a One World Socialist Government? You know, as long as it didn't screw up your personal portfolio.

[1rudeboy]

I’d have to wait until a protectionist came along and explained how his Socialist Government would look.

[wolfcreek]

Google North American Union: Web Results 1 - 10 of about 7,730,000

Apparently, it’s not JUST WND reporting on this subject.

[wolfcreek]

Might be too late by then.

[1rudeboy]

I’m showing 50 million hits, so what?

[Man50D]

Chatham rules allow the reporter to report on everything except to identify who said it.

No kidding. That's exactly my point! They don't dare let those who are pushing to destroy our country be identified as to how they will accomplish the destruction.

You probably fell for that one, too.

I'm not falling for the Bush administration trying to cover up its socialist agenda by trying to downplay these types of meetings. Denying this is happening by trying to bury your head in the sand does not negate the fact Bush wants to end U.S. sovereignty.

[wolfcreek]

You and other deniers seem to isolate WMD as the main culprit.

I say Thank goodness ‘someone’ is reporting on these issues. OTOH, other than a worldwide revolution, I see little that can be done to prevent a NWO/NAU.

[1rudeboy]

Well, there is some irony in WND seeing a profit in it all. I think more people would take the threat more seriously if it wasn’t yellow journalism.

[1rudeboy]

If the destruction of this nation is truly at hand, why doesn't the reporter just blow-off the rules and report who said what? Oh, that's right, he'd lose his meal ticket.

Note also that instead of discussing what was actually said, we are discussing the fabricated issue of this "secret" agenda. Like I said, you fell for it.

[wolfcreek]

Ha! *Yellow* journalists reporting on a *Yellow* World Order. LOL!!!

That’s PHAT!

[1rudeboy]

That one went over my head.

[Man50D]

I think more people would take the threat more seriously if it wasn’t yellow journalism.

Prove it's yellow journalism! Cite your sources that refute what Corsi is reporting.

[1rudeboy]

Wait a minute. I just identified an example of Corsi's yellow journalism, and you accused me of going "off-topic."

[Man50D]

If the destruction of this nation is truly at hand, why doesn't the reporter just blow-off the rules and report who said what?

Try using a little common sense. Corsi is considering the long term problem if he reports individual quotes. He would be completely removed from the process and therefore not be able to report on any of these meetings if he ignored these so called "rules".

[1rudeboy]

Or, if you are a sceptic, he manufactures a controversy where there is none in order to sell copy.

[Man50D]

Wait a minute. I just identified an example of Corsi's yellow journalism, and you accused me of going "off-topic."

That doesn't answer post #27.

[upchuck]

No members of Congress attended the meeting.

Of course not.

[1rudeboy]

If Corsi has engaged in yellow journalism in the past, it is permissible to infer that he will continue to do so. He is no different from the NYT editorial staff in that regard.

What you fail to understand is that, when the truth finally does come out (perhaps even in another one of his books), his original statement (and the "controversy" behind it) will have long since disappeared down the memory hole.

That's why I'm a sceptic and you are a believer.

[Designer]

ping

[Designer]

No members of Congress attended the meeting.

They all think we just made it up.

[Designer]

"..because it’s all a secret."

BS

It has always been public record, just that the MSM chooses not to publicize it.

[Designer]

"..I just identified an example of Corsi's yellow journalism,"

Where did I miss that?

Which post?

[Designer]

"..when the truth finally does come out.."

The truth is already out.

"..his original statement..will have long since disappeared down the memory hole."

Some people, yourself for sure, will have forgotten, but not everyone.

"That's why I'm a sceptic and you are a believer."

I'm sure people such as yourself will continue to be skeptical even when there is a sign above the door.

[1rudeboy]

Yes, it is important that we believe everything we read, particularly if it appears in World Net Daily.

[Just mythoughts]

We will just have to wait until the Canadian or Mexican press leaks the story. Something is up because of the Obama and Hillary promising to renegotiate NAFTA.

Isn't is curious how that cheap illegal labor is consider a ‘free market’ idea.

[Designer]

"Yes, it is important that we believe everything we read.."

I don't, and you probably should't either.

You seem to be ready and willing to lump all conspiracies together as if they all were equally unfounded rumors.

I only pay attention to the ones that are real.

[1rudeboy]

I don't lump all conspiracies together, actually. I try to separate them out believability . . . meaning that I am less inclined to believe something is an element of a conspiracy because the State Dept. used a (relatively) obscure rule in the interests of diplomacy, as opposed to believing that something is an element of a conspiracy by looking at the element itself.

And I do come down hard on Prof. Corsi, because he's intelligent enough to make the distinction. He just refuses to do so because he's in the conspiracy industry. Basically, when I read that George W. Bush has a secret plan to erase our national border by 2010, I like to see why the author thinks so, instead of sifting through BS of no probative value.

In this case, Corsi does a decent job of reporting what was said at the conference, but the thing about the Chatham Rule is carnival-barker material.

[Man50D]

If Corsi has engaged in yellow journalism in the past

If is the operative word and that is based on your unsubstantiated perception. Again, as I stated in post #27, cite your sources that refute what Corsi's reporting.

[hedgetrimmer]

George W. Bush has a secret plan to erase our national border by 2010

It's no secret. "free traders" open abhor borders as they are a 'barrier to trade'.

It's all about the supply chain, just as the executives in the article state. Can't stop the supply chain for an inspection, that just interferes with the transnationals. Little people(citizens) get national id's and open borders, but to do anything a transnational opposes is a cardinal sin to our corrupt politicians and their fascist relationships with global corporations.

Oh and by the way, thank goodness Jeb Bush is heading that ethanol commission promoting investment in Brazilian sugar. It sure has help Bill Clinton's portfolio as he invests in slave labor on the sugar plantations down there. No wonder citizens don't see an iota of difference between the parties, they are out scratching each others backs at great cost to our sovereignty and our taxpayers.

[Sender]

I too am skeptical of the extent of such a union. Maybe a feel-good trade and defense agreement, but not an actual union.

Of course, if the US economy and the dollar continue worsening into uncharted territory, it might actually start to look tempting to Those-Who-Know-More-Than-We-Do to combine the economies and adopt the Amero.

Then we can continue to use even more newly-documented, minimum-wage labor from Mexico, and we'd have Monday Night Hockey, eh? And then if China tries to call in its debts and bankrupt the US, we can say, "Oh yeah? Well just try it buddy. Because now you're dealing with the wealth and military might of Mexico and Canada too."

That'll scare em.

[Man50D]

Of course, if the US economy and the dollar continue worsening into uncharted territory, it might actually start to look tempting to Those-Who-Know-More-Than-We-Do to combine the economies and adopt the Amero.

That's assuming they aren't creating the fall of the dollar. It is also a possibility government officials are supporting the dollar's collapse as an excuse to convince people the Amero will be a viable alternative as a prelude to the NAU.

[Calpernia]

Rep. Duncan Hunter is co-sponsoring the NAFTA Accountability Act

[Calpernia]

The thread has been moved to blogger.

[1rudeboy]

Do you understand how to use the track-back feature? Just curious. If you did, then you'd know that I have stated that Corsi went on and on for months about an allegedly secret list of participants in another conference, then published the list in its original form in his book.

So the question is, how long did Corsi have a document in his possession while he was claiming its contents were "secret?"

[processing please hold]

Thanks for post #47.

The thread has been moved to blogger.

Why does that not surprise me.