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To: Red Badger
Not Bio fuels in general, just BIODIESEL!...............No food needed to make it!..............

Uhhh...

Soybeans are definitely food.

Vegetable oil is made from food.

Any time you displace one crop with another, you decrease the quantity of the displaced crop and increase it's price.

It is a really, really, really bad, arrogant and contemptuous thing for a society to burn food when there are parts of the world where people are starving.

19 posted on 03/13/2008 12:44:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Forget soybeans, forget vegetable oils, think ALGAE!!..........And GARBAGE & TRASH.........and SEWAGE.........AND WASTE OILS..........AND COAL!!!..........ALL of these can be made into DIESEL FUELS...........


24 posted on 03/13/2008 12:47:20 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Go with diesel from algae. The per unit area yield of oil from algae is estimated to be from between 5,000 to 20,000 gallons per acre, per year (4.6 to 18.4 l/m2 per year); this is 7 to 30 times greater than the next best crop, Chinese tallow (699 gallons).

Algae to diesel production can be done anywhere there is sun. And, the food can come from raw sewage. For those CO2 nuts, C02 from fossil fuel electrical production goes to good use with algae cultivation. Such operations can be set up in waste land where there is good sunlight.

One such corporation is Green Fuel Technology of Arizona.

40 posted on 03/13/2008 1:17:23 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Google "widescale biodiesel production from algae" and read physics professor Michael Briggs' study.

I'm convinced micro algae is the most promising source of renewable oil. It can optimally produce 15,000 gallons/acre/year, as opposed to corn (15 gallons/acre/year) or soybeans (48 gallons/acre/year). And it need not take one acre of productive farmland to do it.

66 posted on 03/13/2008 2:11:17 PM PDT by Texas Mulerider
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It is a really, really, really bad, arrogant and contemptuous thing for a society to burn food when there are parts of the world where people are starving.

Ignorance has its price. Let 'em starve.

98 posted on 03/13/2008 7:28:32 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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