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To: TigerLikesRooster; All

If, as I fear we are headed for $4 and $5 a gallon gasoline, these plants should do OK. Also, if they can ever get cellulosic ethanol going that will make a big difference. I saw an interesting piece about butanol as a possible fuel, but have not seen anything recent about how that is progressing. According to the article a better, more energy efficient product than ethanol.

Furthermore, I am afraid that oil which hit $111 is unlikely to go down any time soon as the new USO oil ETF is driving the price higher than it should be (about 20%more). These Exchange Traded Funds (ETF) are mechanisms for large institutional investors to put their money into oil. They have to buy in lots of $4 million or more, and in the past year or two their investment in oil has jumped from $9 billion to more than 1/4 trillion dollars. This is really unnerving.


12 posted on 03/13/2008 11:43:37 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
Well run plants do OK, anyway. The problem with subsidies, in any industry, is that they encourage businesses which are not efficient or otherwise well run to compete with businesses which are.

Corn is presently about $5.60 per bushel. An efficient plant will obtain 3 gallons of ethanol together with 18 pounds of DDG's (plus corn oil and CO2) from each bushel. The fuel and feed value, alone, of the bushel is worth over $10. If an operator can't process a bushel corn for five bucks, it really shouldn't be in business.

30 posted on 03/14/2008 7:19:56 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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