Posted on 03/14/2008 7:20:21 AM PDT by stockpirate
Sorry if this has already been posted. They were talking about it on the air. The plan is for DC police officers to go house to house in certain areas and search for weapons and if any are found they will NOT prosecute.
Last time I checked this was against the law.
My gut-level response to your request for a cite is this:
“Ask just about any black man in Houston.”
Though the days of segregation are behind us, the fact remains that blacks are STILL getting pulled over in broad daylight for no other reason than that they’re black. And not just in Pastor Jeremiah Wright’s warped world, either.
Just a couple of years back, I was in an audience listening to a WHITE guy relate a first-person account of this happening. When the cop saw him in the car with the three black guys, he mumbled some lame excuse for why he’d stopped them, went back to his patrol car, shut off the lights and drove away. One of the black men in the car turned to his white friend and said, “He left because he saw you. If you hadn’t been in the car, things would have gone down a whole lot differently.”
So, why shouldn’t I think that some peope in America in 2008 are being subjected to warrantless searches on the same filmy kinds of bases?? Accordingly, what foundation is there for the claim that no person in Washington D.C. will be subjected to an unconstitutional search of their property?
I’d bet there is none.
Just because a given practice is morally repugnant is no foundation for the assertion that it isn’t being implemented, historically less so for the claim that agents of government at some level aren’t doing it.
DON'T !
THEN HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXPLAIN ME !!????!!!
If not, find a good responsible friend who owns guns, and have them take you out shooting sometime. It's actually quite fun, you just may enjoy it. I've never taken anyone shooting who didn't.
Don't let them start you out with anything bigger than a 9mm. You might not enjoy the heavy hitters as much. Until you get hooked that is.
“Consent search”, eh.
Never give consent. It’s that simple.
I think yinz bin in da arns awreddy.
That's one of Peanut's lines ... funny as $h!t !!
No way this can happen. This is against the 4th Amendment’s unlawful searches and seizures.
What’s next? We go to the airport for a flight and the government searches our bags without a warrant?
I don’t recall anything about a warrant in the Constitution. Unreasonable, yes. Warrant, no. Those forefathers were pretty smart.
thanks for the ping and link, I posted it and pinged the list here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1985928/posts
No, that would violate Godwin's Law and create a forfeiture.
But remember Comrade Strelnikov from Dr. Zhivago? His long leather coat would look good .... esp. standing in front of that cool armored train with red flags all over it, and the peasants lying shot dead beside it.
Problem is, your stupid neighbors have given a liberal judge an incentive to find their example.....precedential. Or something.
Legal positivism, remember.
SCOTUS banned dragnets, remember that? So now we have "sobriety checkpoints" instead. Because CJ Burger thought the game was worth the candle -- remember that one?
Republican appointees are just as quick as Lefty ones to throw out the Constitution and their duty, when a policy end lurches into view.
What the hell was that all about?
but no court in the land could ever consider this constitutional.”
And no court would consider taking someone’s property and giving it to developers constitutional.
#87 ... You don’t see a pictorial association?
Which is exactly what they are going to do. Since guns are more or less illegal in DC, handguns certainly are, anything they find is going to get confiscated and probably result in you being sent to jail.
Ask to see a warrant and then when none is forthcoming, politely decline to allow the search.
Not trying to be insulting, here, so don't take this wrong, but what OTHER kinds of power tools do you dislike??
I ask in that manner because, in the final analysis, a gun is a powder-actuated, mechanical tool; a machine. It has a function that it serves, and there are multiple applications where that function is highly useful; hunting, target shooting, warfare, and law enforcement to name some. In plain fact, many applications for the function of a gun are such that no other power tool will adequately replace the gun. Note the stellar failure of the British effort to strip their Police of handguns and equip them with Tasers, instead. Imagine our troops in Iraq or Afghanistan equipped with...what? Slings and stones?? Crossbows??
In one aspect I fully grasp -- and agree with -- the core sentiment you express: the desire for a world where guns aren't necessary, and have been dispensed with. In plain fact, however, you and I must accept that a world such as that -- if it is even achievable at all -- could ONLY be arrived at by fixing the humans FIRST, and getting rid of the weapons AFTERWARD. Utopian attempts to force the existence of such a world by getting rid of the weapons WITHOUT fixing the humans will only result in elevated incidence of violence and death. Modern gun bans and buy-back programs have already provided us with several examples.
Let me encourage you to accept the advice of the previous poster, and go shooting with someone you know who has demonstrated skill-at-arms. Even if you never do it much, you will very likely find that you enjoy shooting. The technical aspects of marksmanship and the challenge of hitting the target will probably prove more fun than you think. DO, however, start with something on the order of a .38 so you can focus on things OTHER than recoil. Honestly. Do it! I really think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
If you go shooting, and you find afterward that you are still negatively disposed toward guns, at least it will not be for a lack of personal knowledge and experience.
I hate police chiefs with delusions of grandeur.
OTOH, I know a much nicer looking lady who legitimately and deservedly wears the two stars of a Major General USAFR.
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