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In Oxford, Muslim call to prayer sounds strained note
AFP on Yahoo ^ | 3/15/08 | Loic Vennin

Posted on 03/15/2008 10:57:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

OXFORD, England (AFP) - Famous for its university and quintessentially English "dreaming spires," the city of Oxford has been plunged into controversy over the sound of Muslim call to prayer from a local mosque.

Those church spires have been joined by a minaret, with a loudspeaker on top which has triggered protests from locals concerned about the influx of a foreign culture.

"I don't have any problem with Islam but don't force it on people," said Oxford University historian Allan Chapman, whose typically English house has a view of both the minaret and the nearby Church of Saint Mary and Saint John.

The Central Mosque was built in the east of the city, the "other Oxford", which is home to a poorer population and more immigrants than the historic centre of ancient, sandstone colleges, libraries and students on bicycles.

Cutting through the area is the main, multi-ethnic thoroughfare of Cowley Road, where Pakistani men in traditional tunics and other immigrants rub shoulders with the city's student intelligentsia going to and from their digs.

In this city, with a population of just 140,000, including nearly 20,000 students, nothing is very far away.

The mosque itself -- which can hold up to 700 of the town's 6,000 Muslims -- is little more than a 15-minute walk from Oxford's colleges, many of which were founded by Christian religious scholars as long ago as the 12th century.

But while the city's history is marked by Christianity's influence, some believe the mosque's imposing minaret defiles the city's famous skyline, which has remained largely unchanged for centuries.

Those feelings have been brought to a head since last November when mosque authorities expressed a desire to broadcast via loudspeaker the Muslim prayer call, the Adhan, sparking controversy that has not yet died down.

Wearing a three-piece suit with a bow tie and a gold chain hanging out of his jacket pocket, Chapman describes himself as "profoundly English" but rejects suggestions that he is taking an extreme view.

"I'm a liberal... I want to be inclusive but I don't want to be walked over," he said.

For him, the issue goes above and beyond the noise created by the call to prayer, which goes out five times daily in Muslim countries, and instead challenges English tolerance and threatens Britain's values and history.

"If Oxford accepts it, it would be used right across the country," he said.

Charlie Cleverly, the rector of the Saint Aldates church, in the heart of Oxford, says the city has long represented "the essence of Englishness".

"It is common knowledge, though few will say it, that 'radical Islam' has a programme to 'take Europe, take England and take Oxford'," he said.

"In this strategy, some say the prayer call is like a bridgehead, spreading to other mosques in the city."

The local Oxford Mail newspaper quoted locals in the area as fearing the creation of a "Muslim ghetto". The counter argument runs that the pealing of church bells is also a call to prayer.

To calm the mood, Central Mosque's treasurer Masood Ahmed insisted that the desire to issue a call to prayer was still only a proposal which required the approval of Oxford's mayor.

"We'll get their views, what they feel," he said.

The Church of England Bishop of Oxford, the Right Reverend John Pritchard, has entered the row, but supports plans to broadcast the Adhan, calling for people to "relax" and "enjoy community diversity".

"I believe we have good relationships with the Muslim community here in Oxford and I am personally very happy for the mosque to call the faithful to prayer in east Oxford," he said in January.

But he accepted that the number of times the call went out and its volume still needed to be resolved.

Chapman, though, is less accommodating, pledging to seek compensation from the mayor for "discrimination" if the proposal is approved.

For the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), the debate is as futile as its direction is inevitable, as a debate rages over the extent to which cultural diversity is affecting the traditionally British way of life.

"The call to prayer will be part of Britain and Europe in the future," said Inayat Bunglawala, the MCB's assistant secretary general.

He said that the Adhan was already broadcast three times a day at a large mosque in east London and that it had "never been problematic".


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: adhan; calltoprayer; eurabia; invaders; islam; jihadinbritain; koran; londonistan; minaret; mosque; mosques; muslim; muslims; oxford; quran; shariahlaw; sharialaw; ukmuslims; unholyalliance
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1 posted on 03/15/2008 10:57:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

We need our own sound, a call to war against these invading muslims.


2 posted on 03/15/2008 11:03:11 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: NormsRevenge

“The call to prayer will be part of Britain and Europe in the future,” said Inayat Bunglawala, the MCB’s assistant secretary general.

That’s for damn sure. They are going to be subjected to this more and more. So are we unless something drastic happens.


3 posted on 03/15/2008 11:05:34 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: NormsRevenge
I have to tell you, if that happened in my neighborhood I'd be outraged.

I think I'd go get myself and industrial high powered CO2 laser off of eBay and destroy the speakers while no one was looking...

4 posted on 03/15/2008 11:06:28 PM PDT by DB
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To: NormsRevenge
"I'm a liberal... I want to be inclusive but I don't want to be walked over," he said.

For him, the issue goes above and beyond the noise created "It is common knowledge, though few will say it, that 'radical Islam' has a programme to 'take Europe, take England and take Oxford'," he said.

Not wanting to offend will be the downfall of western society.

5 posted on 03/15/2008 11:07:05 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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"I don't have any problem with Islam but don't force it on people"

See, that first part is where you are getting into trouble.


6 posted on 03/15/2008 11:08:57 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Church of England Bishop of Oxford, the Right Reverend John Pritchard, has entered the row, but supports plans to broadcast the Adhan, calling for people to "relax" and "enjoy community diversity".

Amazing.

Somehow I don't think Jesus would agree.

7 posted on 03/15/2008 11:11:40 PM PDT by DB
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To: Lijahsbubbe
"Not wanting to offend will be the downfall of western society"

I've offended appropriately today, have you?


8 posted on 03/15/2008 11:13:57 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: DB

Hmm. If they ever build a mosque in my area, speakers or not, that thing’s getting firebombed till there’s nothing left, over and over again until they get the message.


9 posted on 03/15/2008 11:19:39 PM PDT by TheZMan (I'm going to write my own name on the ballot. Screw the current crop of "conservatives".)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

“We need our own sound, a call to war against these invading muslims.”

And the first casualties need to be the craven bastard politicians who suck up to the muslims.


10 posted on 03/15/2008 11:22:37 PM PDT by Levante
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To: NormsRevenge

Except the noise or you’re a bunch of racist, sexist, homophobic hate mongers!

-liberal mantra


11 posted on 03/15/2008 11:33:29 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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Except the noise or you’re a bunch of racist, sexist, homophobic hate mongers!

-liberal mantra


12 posted on 03/15/2008 11:33:33 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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To: I see my hands

Sometimes inappropriately.


13 posted on 03/15/2008 11:35:45 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: NormsRevenge

‘The counter argument runs that the pealing of church bells is also a call to prayer.’

...and when was the last time we heard that? The Angelus bells used to ring every day at 6 am and noon, but now there are noise ordinances that prevent it.

Religion aside, the sound of tolling church bells is much more pleasant that someone screaming in Arabic thru a loudspeaker.


14 posted on 03/15/2008 11:37:50 PM PDT by baa39 (Defend our troops! see my profile page)
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To: NormsRevenge

Its not a call to prayers, but a battle march. The english better wake up to understand this.


15 posted on 03/15/2008 11:49:50 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: NormsRevenge

Seems to me I read a couple of years ago that someplace like Hamtramck (sp?) Michigan was battling over being forced to listen to the amplified call to prayer from a mosque.


16 posted on 03/15/2008 11:56:45 PM PDT by Knutsdatter
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To: Tzimisce

“Except the noise or you’re a bunch of racist, sexist, homophobic hate mongers!”

Oh, I’d gladly except the noise. Accepting the noice is an entirely different issue, though. ;)


17 posted on 03/16/2008 12:07:24 AM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: baa39

Exactly. The call to prayer is meant to bring everything to a hault, to be imposing. Church bells are harmonic intervals throughout the day. There’s a pleasentness to them, even when they’re merely tolling the hours.


18 posted on 03/16/2008 12:08:49 AM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: NormsRevenge
All Christians.
Agree on one hymn.
Go outside.
Five times a day.
Sing.

Loud.

19 posted on 03/16/2008 12:22:28 AM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: NormsRevenge

Church bells are not necessarily a call to prayer. Church bells have rung out for centuries for various reasons. And bells themselves certainly have many purposes. The sound of a bell is common, traditional, and unoffensive.

Islamic call to prayer has only one purpose and whereas they may say it has not caused a problem in other places, how do they know that? How many individuals are stressed and scared by that sound? I certainly don’t want to hear it where I am. Call to prayer could be considered incitement in countries who are working to fight terrorism.


20 posted on 03/16/2008 12:29:59 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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