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Marxism, American Christians, And Election 2008
Townhall.com ^ | March 16, 2008 | Austin Hill

Posted on 03/16/2008 5:29:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

Barack Obama has a controversial relationship with a Pastor.

I am not here referring to Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Obama has fallen under harsh scrutiny because of the actions of his own Pastor, and this has become quite widely known within the last week.

Pastor Rick Warren heads up the popular “Saddleback Church” in suburban Orange County, California (it’s name comes from the nearby Saddleback Mountain range). A trend setting institution within the Evangelical “mega church” movement, the congregation makes up the largest church in California, and the fourth largest church in the United States.

Yet Pastor Warren’s influence reaches far beyond his own, local pulpit. Widely known for publishing “The Purpose Driven Life” book earlier this decade (a New York Times’ bestseller), Warren’s pastoral advice has impacted untold numbers worldwide. And Warren’s influence among Evangelical clergy has been steadily building for at least the past two decades, reaching a high point with the publishing of “The Purpose Driven Church” book back in the mid-90’s.

To his credit, Warren has tried to compel Evangelicals (and thoughtful Christians of all sorts) to engage on a wider array of social and cultural concerns - - caring for the poor, fighting disease in the third world, and, yes, a proper care of the environment. In so doing, Warren has expanded upon the accomplishments of the older Evangelical activists who have over the past three decades narrowly defined their efforts as comprising the “pro-family movement” - - a movement dedicated to protecting the life of the unborn child, and the historic definition of marriage.

And this is where Obama comes in. In November and December of 2006, Saddleback Church hosted the 2nd annual “Global Summit On AIDS and the Church,” and Senator Obama, along with Senator Sam Brownback, were two of the more high-profile speakers at the event. At the time, Warren was harshly criticized by other Evangelical leaders for having invited the staunchly pro-abortion Obama. Warren’s response? "Jesus loved and accepted others without approving of everything they did” he told his detractors. “That's our position too, but it upsets a lot of people, so we get attacked from both sides."

The Evangelical reaction to Obama was predictable, and Warren’s pursuit of “unity” and “bi-partisanship” was commendable. But if Obama’s stance on abortion is troublesome for Evangelicals, why wouldn’t his stance on a variety of other policy issues - - and in particular, economic issues - - be equally as troubling?

And the controversy doesn’t begin and end with Obama. Former First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton has spoken at Saddleback Church as well, and while she is also criticized by the Evangelical brethren for her stance on abortion, rarely if ever is there an Evangelical critique of her economic policies.

So let’s be clear about what’s at stake: Obama and Clinton are both advancing economic ideas that are essentially Marxist in their nature. They both have proposed radical new levels of taxation for Americans whom they believe possess “too much” wealth, and unprecedented new levels of governmental intervention and regulation with American enterprise so as to “fix” our nation’s problems with healthcare, energy, and the environment.

This reality poses a dramatic challenge for American Christians. While churches of all sorts are quick to embrace the wealthy when it is time to take up a collection, Christian clergy and the “pro family” activists have virtually nothing to say about the virtues of wealth creation, and the kind of economic environment that fosters prosperity. This ambivalence towards economic paradigms - - which is at its core a failure to adequately understand economics as a “moral issue” - - leads people to attach their best humanitarian intentions to flawed and dangerous economic ideas.

So while Warren and other Evangelicals awaken to a broader realm of social concerns (which is in itself a good thing), all American Christians should keep in mind these core realities: the Bible itself (both Old and New Testaments) presupposes that it is quite a natural thing for private citizens to own the means of economic production (land and other resources); and that it is okay for individuals to create wealth for themselves and their families; and that private citizens should care for the needy of society, rather than abdicating this responsibility to “the government.” From this foundation, we can then envision the private sector doing a much better job with the pressing domestic issues of our time - - healthcare, environmental stewardship, and energy independence.

To put it more succinctly, there is nothing “moral” about Obama’s plan to tax capital (not just earnings or profits or interest income, but, yes, he wants to now tax money in the bank), and there is no virtue in Hillary’s proposed governmental take-over of the automotive industry. Humanitarian intentions must be attached to sound economic principles - - and there is no “justice” in abusing the nation’s wealth producers, or in strangling the national economy.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: marxism

1 posted on 03/16/2008 5:29:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
When sometime you own can be taxed.. Then you are renting it from the government.. This started way before Obama was born.. What you own may belong to the government whether you like it or not..

It all started with the income rax.. and the federal reserve banks.. (shineing glasses).. But thats another story ...

2 posted on 03/16/2008 5:44:25 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

corr: something...


3 posted on 03/16/2008 5:45:11 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Gamecock

PING!


4 posted on 03/16/2008 5:49:25 AM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: Kaslin

I guess the Pastor never had the Sunday school class when Jesus gave out the three coins and was really mad at the guy that just buried the coin and returned it to Jesus without a “return on his investment”.


5 posted on 03/16/2008 5:51:51 AM PDT by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: Kaslin
When the self-styled “Christian” leaders lost interest in the gospel Christ preached they found this “social gospel” much more acceptable and comfortable. They could have the respect of a world they were supposed to reject and pretend they were fulfilling Christ's commission, ‘they have a zeal for God but not according to knowledge’.
6 posted on 03/16/2008 5:52:32 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Excellent post.


7 posted on 03/16/2008 5:58:50 AM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: Kaslin

Great article. Thanks for posting. Collectivists of a feather...


8 posted on 03/16/2008 6:04:10 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Kaslin

The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. ~ Daniel Webster


9 posted on 03/16/2008 6:07:28 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

I was aware that Obama wants to raise taxes on income, dividends and interest, estates, corporations, and the payroll tax, but this article says he wants to impose an additional tax on financial assets. Marxists—such as Vermont’s Bernie Sanders—have advocated such a tax for generations but I had not heard of this proposal from Obama. Can anyone refer me to when and where Obama has proposed this new level of taxation? I don’t doubt he has done so but I want to study his proposal.


10 posted on 03/16/2008 7:09:19 AM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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To: PGalt

Thank you for your clever twist of “Birds of a feather flock together.”


11 posted on 03/16/2008 7:11:55 AM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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To: not2worry

“I guess the Pastor never had the Sunday school class when Jesus gave out the three coins and was really mad at the guy that just buried the coin and returned it to Jesus without a “return on his investment”.”

Wasn’t Jesus Jewish?


12 posted on 03/16/2008 7:16:13 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: Kaslin
"Jesus loved and accepted others without approving of everything they did” he told his detractors. “That's our position too, but it upsets a lot of people, so we get attacked from both sides."

There is no black and white; just various shades of gray. - tom

13 posted on 03/16/2008 8:50:28 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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