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Obama’s Pastor Uncovers a Hidden Reality of a Second America
uppity negro network (not kidding) ^ | 3-16-08 | jlazard

Posted on 03/16/2008 10:36:42 PM PDT by doug from upland

Obama’s Pastor Uncovers a Hidden Reality of a Second America March 14, 2008 by jlazard10

Isn’t it interesting that just as Obama’s pastor Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. celebrated 36 of ministry at Trinity United Church of Christ, and retiring as senior pastor from that pulpit that the new firestorm concerning his pastor is being trotted out again in front of the media as though this is something new. I mean, this church, and this pastor and this candidate dealt with this exact same issue exactly a year ago, and he weathered it. Nothing new is being purported in the media other than the sheer ignorance of Americans.

I just saw a clip on CNN Headline news with Glenn Beck and he also now a reporter who is on my –hit list (you fill in the first letter yourself). But again can I blame him? The clip of Rev. Wright shows Wright preaching clearly in favor of Obama, but also speaking about an alternate reality that I’m convinced is so far away from that of white America that when people like Wright hold a mirror in contrast to their realities, we get a media firestorm. The clip is one where Wright says from the pulpit that “Hillary Clinton aint never been called a nigger” and to the effect that Obama signals something that is competely against the status quo of white, male, patriarchy (and the UNN would add to that list heterosexual).

So, when a black man speaks cold hard facts its considered hate speech?

I must have missed something somewhere. It appears that black people are only allowed to speak of love, peace and long suffering only in the context of Martin Luther King’s “I have a Dream” speech. Well, I can say from personal experience that this particular uppity Negro has seen and expereinced more than enough suffering and dammit, I support Rev. Jeremiah Wright without any equivocations.

But, I’m still at a loss; when is it appropriate to speak about the issues that Jeremiah Wright talks about in his sermons? I mean, just because we label it hate speech, which it is not, does not mean that he’s not speaking truth. I mean, the political pundits are using overarching terms to describe Wright’s sermons such as “hate speech” which I think is very interesting because none of them are denouncing the verarcity of what he said. And even in this context, isn’t it interesting, old conventional wisdom asked was Obama black enough, now the concern is that he’s too black.

Go figure.

But, I encourage those to please read Soul Jonz blog because this is where Obama’s pastor gets his theology from. Oh yes, this is not some crackpot, whack job, bootleg preacher, this is an educated man. One need only do a Google search to obtain a biography of Jeremiah Wright. I mean, the attacks against this man and his family are purely based on ignorance of facts and experience. I mean, in all fairness, Hillary Clinton will never have to experience being called a nigger. That is a reality that Barack Obama has faced as a black man living in this country. Well, just like Glenn Beck’s obvious response to the network having to bleep out “the n-word” it would take tomes of books and information to help him understand why Jeremiah Wright is allowed to say that word and he’s not. A black person reading this blog would understand what Jeremiah Wright means when he says that “Hillary Clinton aint never been called a nigger,” but a white person would need a plethora of information explained to them to help them understand that “nigger” isn’t just a pejorative word, equated with any other defaming adjective or noun.

So, again, why is this considered “hate speech” when Trinity United Church of Christ is a member of a predominantly white denomination and one of the denomination conference presidents, a lil’ old white lady, is a member of Trinity? Furthermore, if this is “hate speech” why also does Trinity have the full unbridled support of the United Church of Christ?

I guess in our American ignorance, we’ve allowed the media to redefine some things for us. It appears that hate is one of those things that has been redefined. Hate appears to be whatever goes against the white, male, heterosexual status quo, but I guess this is hate speech because the white, male and heterosexual status quo would have to first recognise that there is a hierarchy in this country and that they are unopposed at the top of this caste system in this country.

Secondly, while they are at it, the media needs to stop acting like this is the Mormon faith and confined only to one state. Oh no! This Black Liberation Theology is a nationwide thing and has been in practice before the legal end of slavery in 1865 and has since been articulated by James Cone in 1969. This is not a fly-by-night operation that Jeremiah Wright is preaching: this is an institution. And woe unto the white people who think that if they get rid of Barack Obama that they have silenced the Jeremiah Wright’s of this country; there are others, they may even be in your local city or town. Let it be known that the following clearly support Jeremiah Wright, as evidenced of their invitation and acceptance to participate in his retirement celebration:

1) Rev. Frederick D. Haynes III, pastor of Friendship West Baptist Church, Dallas, Texas

2) Rev. Marcus D. Cosby, pastor of Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church, Houston, Texas

3) Rev. Rudolph McKissick, pastor of Bethel Institutional Baptist Church, Jacksonville, Florida

4) Rev. Dr. Lance Watson, pastor of St. Paul Baptist Church, Richmond, Virginia

5) Dr. Cornell West, Princeton University

6) Dr. Obrey Hendricks, author of The Politics of Jesus

7) Rev. Frank Thomas, pastor of Mississippi Boulevard Church, Memphis, Tennessee

….and trust me the list continues.

This blog is not a call to arms against white people of this country, but rather I’m putting white America on notice that what Jeremiah Wright is speaking is not relegated to just the South Side of Chicago, or just barbershop and beauty shop banter. What Jeremiah Wright and others speak is the reality of this Second America, an America that I now see is so far removed from the reality of white America that when our realities combine we get what white America calls “hate speech.” I, however, along with millions of other African Americans see things differently–vastly different.

However, just because white America sides with Dr. King doesn’t mean that the rest must fall in-line so easily, because there’s always the option of Malcolm X, who of course called for the same change as Dr. King, but his was by “any means necessary.”

Keep it radical and keep it uppity, JLL

Posted in Church and Society, Politics, Random Thoughts from an Uppity Negro, Religion, The Color Line |

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16 Responses to “Obama’s Pastor Uncovers a Hidden Reality of a Second America” on March 14, 2008 at 8:01 am1 David Go to hell all of you black racist people!

on March 14, 2008 at 10:37 am2 americana83 Why would it be wrong to discuss issues a pastor, any pastor brings up in his sermons? Certainly, if McCain, or Huckabee had been a member of some Aryan Nations church, it would have been headline news around the free world. Why? Because hate influences a man, and a person who is conditioned for years that people group X today is responsible for all past present and future evil will form policy based on these beliefs.

You may not be issuing a call to arms against white people, but Dr. Wright and his close confidant Lois Farrakhan fervently believe white equals evil.

Dr. Wright has called for God to damn America. He says that white christian values (in contrast to Black Christian values) are slavery and segregation. This is a clear and simple grouping of all of “white” Christianity under a Confederate-Nazi-klan banner.

Yes there are other options to the dream of a nation where people are not judged by the color of their skin. Yes, one can advocate the violent overthrow of the whole “bourgeois white capitalist” system. But those who live by the sword will die by the sword, and the dream will be lost.

on March 14, 2008 at 11:32 am3 jlazard10 i think this is where the dialogue breaks down. I can honestly say from personal experience, and my own interactions with Jeremiah Wright that he does not hate white people, and he does not encourage his congregation to hate white people. If that were the case I would not have attended his church. It appears to me that people equate black empowerment and pro-Africanism with white hate and that is NOT the case AT ALL.

However, I’m not about to apologize and denounce what Jeremiah Wright said just because it makes a lot of people uncomfortable–I’m not running for president. But, again, my argument in the article above was that what Jeremiah Wright was speaking is a definite reality for a large part of the African American populace in this country, and for the rest of the United States to dismiss him as a random ranting pastor will be a serious mistake.

on March 14, 2008 at 12:45 pm4 The Black Snob The only reason why what Wright said is considered “hate speech” is because there is an unwritten agreement in polite society that complaints like these are never to be spoken in the public sector because they challenge the belief of many whites that they should not have to listen to such harangues as they:

A) Did not own slaves

B) That stuff happened a long time ago

C) Doesn’t the Civil Rights Movement and Affirmative Action fix everything

There’s a host of flaws in that logic, but it remains true. White people don’t like being told that they have benefited from the oppression of others. That they still benefit from the latent racism that still exists in our courts, our legislature and our businesses. But the exasperation from whites is a cry of “when will you people stop complaining? When will we be even already?” It doesn’t matter that hardly any white people have been negatively impacted by an attempt at fairness and parity in our society. It doesn’t matter. They want it to be over with so they don’t have to deal with reality or the guilt or sensor their own racist thoughts.

Wright isn’t saying anything different from what countless educators, philosophers, ministers and activists have said before. America has been hostile to blacks and that hostility still exists today. But because this talk is unpleasant and involves challenging people’s world view it is put in the same box as speech that calls whites superior, Aryans the master race and that non-whites are a scourge of mud people.

Out of laziness and wanting black people to “get over it” Wright and other blacks are put in the hate box even though they don’t say blacks are superior, they don’t incite violence and they don’t advocate the elimination of the white race. They don’t charge that whites are inferior and should be subservient to blacks.

But Wright is saying unpleasant truths. It is true our country is still racist. It is true that the black experience is very different from the white experience. It is true that white people irregardless of whether they owned slaves and worked for Bull Conner hosing Negroes down in the streets have benefited from a “whites only” achievement ladder that was often inaccessible to blacks.

But these truths sting and challenge the sensibilities, so to make some whites feel better, who need verification that black people are just as racist, or more racist than whites, they need a straw man. Wright is the straw man. They will beat him to death over his truths, but they won’t deny that what he’s saying is true. No one is challenge the fact that the former First Lady has never been called a nigger. They know that his words aren’t ludicrous. But you really shouldn’t say that out loud because it really turns off the people who think all the bad stuff happened years ago and they didn’t own any slaves, so why should I have to listen to this? Why are you pointing your fingers at me?

on March 14, 2008 at 1:17 pm5 Dr. Frederick W. Chapman Dear JLL,

Thank you for posting your critique of Glenn Beck’s mischaracterization of the Rev. Dr. Wright’s sermon as “hate speech.” I listened to the clip on Beck’s show last night, and when it was over, I was left with the unanswered question, “Where was the hate speech?” Everything the Rev. Dr. Wright said was true — it was a straightforward and credible characterization of the black experience in America. I cannot speak of these things firsthand, because I am not a black man, but I do not find anything the Rev. Dr. Wright said hard to believe.

What’s worse is that Beck then brought on an African-American commentator to support his mischaracterization of the sermon as “hate speech.” This lends an air of legitimacy to this mischaracterization by compounding a white man’s lie with a black man’s lie.

Glenn Beck is on my watchlist, too. I don’t understand why CNN allows Beck’s propaganda and misinformation on “The most trusted name in news.” Beck is not trustworthy, and the news where he is concerned is mostly bad.

Thank you again for your insightful rebuttal of Beck. Keep on speaking the truth!

In the spirit of brotherhood,

Dr. Frederick W. Chapman Pennsylvania, USA

on March 14, 2008 at 1:39 pm6 Robin Why is it okay to thrust your hips out in the pulpit and say “they were riding it dirty” in reference to Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky? How is that in any way appropriate? Disgusting I say. How does he lift his congregation and promote a positive move forward for his followers? He doesn’t. He, not white America, wants to hold them down because if they go out, succeed, make a good life, then they won’t need him or his retoric anymore.

on March 14, 2008 at 1:51 pm7 Right of Radical Everything Old is New Again!

I am shocked! I am shocked that I am shocked! I have been stewing over this for some months now, and Iit has come to the point where we must take a stand now! We are moving into dangerous territory and we have to do what we know is right now!

When the Black Church speaking on the Black condition and experience in this country was considered Un-American and “hate speech”? Answer? Always! The whole Civil Rights and Human Rights and Change Movement, has been called Un-American, and Pre-America, it was treason against the Queen, and before that it went against the Emperor, and before that, it was blaspheme and Jesus was put to death for it! It is not unique, it is to be expected.

Do not forget my brothers and sisters, that Rev. King did deliver “I Have a Dream” and though many like to take the “feel good parts”, and say that is what he was all about. But do not forget that is NOT the beginning of the speech! I encourage you to go and look up the speech, here are some excerpt sentences:

…….So we have come here today to dramatize a shameful condition.

In a sense we have come to our nation’s capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked “insufficient funds.”

But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. So we have come to cash this check — a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice. We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quick sands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God’s children.

It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro’s legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. Those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. There will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.

Pretty Radical stuff huh?

Do not forget that Dr. King himself became an enemy of this nation when he broke ranks with President Johnson, and came against the Vietnam War. He was labeled a communist sympathizer and a philanderer. He was killed while organizing the poor peoples movement, to end poverty and for workers labor rights. We did not abandon Dr. King and we must not abandon our Pastors nor our Senator when they come against him. These are the same things we face now. Rev. Wright, and every other Black preacher worth their title speak truth to power from the pulpit. They are called to make aware the human condition. They articulate our collective Black Experience. It is not hate speech, as it always turns us to God, who sustains us, and always carries a message of hope in that we trust in our God, and he makes a way for us, so that we stand, still in spite of it all, regardless of our condition or experience. It is the same message as “We shall overcome”

Do not worry for Rev. Wright, nor for Senator Obama, their will is God’s will, and what he has ordained will be. We have to concentrate on what our call is, and I believe it is to Stand NOW! We are at the edge of a movement, and we will never again allow anyone to define for us our condition, our experience our leaders or leadership. Rush, Sean, Glenn, Ann, none of them decide for us, what our experience is.

Rev. Wright, will continue to do God’s work, as God has called him to, and God will keep him.

What part will you play in this is to be determined. Perhaps you can start by writing your congressman, senator, mayor, and warn them that anyone who comes against this man will not receive your vote ever again. Then, write- email - call and blog at CNN, ABC Radio, and any other Syndicate or Affiliate who airs Sean Hannity, or Rush Limbaugh, and Glenn Beck and demand they be pulled from the air for out and out right lying and racism. One person doing it, means nothing, but together, we can make a movement. It is time to say enough, we will not allow you to attack our Clergy or negate our experience or our history! Truth to Power!

on March 14, 2008 at 3:50 pm8 totaltransformation “I encourage those to please read Soul Jonz blog because this is where Obama’s pastor gets his theology from”

The link doesn’t work, could you repost please. Thanks.

on March 14, 2008 at 4:00 pm9 jlazard10 totaltansformation, i checked the link, thanks.

on March 15, 2008 at 2:13 am10 grownANDsexy I think it was termed hate speech because he said the word Nigger and because of other speeches he has made at the pulpit.

I don’t know too much about him but he is pretty straight forward from the clip I saw them use on TV (you should find it on YouTube and post it so people have a reference).

We have come a long way, but we still got allot of work to do and I think that is all he was saying.

I do think though, that she may know suffering while not like a black person of her time would know, but she is a woman and she did have to work harder just to get something just below the guys.

on March 15, 2008 at 5:13 pm11 jlazard10 to grownANDsexy:

Jeremiah Wright delivers sermons and not speeches. Secondly, of the sermons that he delivers in the pulpit on Sunday are usually about 20-30 minutes. It would be totally unfair for anyone to take a 2 minute clip out of a 30 minute sermon and justify it as such.

The reason I did not put the link on MY blog was because I did not want to encourage people seeing the way Jeremiah Wright was portrayed.

Ultimately, “nigger” is not a word that is used in that pulpit or throughout the history of Jeremiah Wright’s sermons. Furthermore, we already know that there is a double-standard in the use of the “n-word.” And in this particular case, there was not the calling of an individual a nigger, but rather the reference of the word toward someone else. It is in those particular cases where it was not meant to offend someone, but in order to make a point.

on March 15, 2008 at 5:20 pm12 k griffin I think we now know Obama’s “change” agenda. I can’t believe Jeremiah Wright is a minister. No way I would take my family to any church that spews hatred. We can now understand Michelle’s comments as well. Obama is toast and thank goodness we now know who the real Obama is. Remember it was the black man (Obama’s father) that walked away from him and the white mother and white grandmother that raised him….funny I didn’t hear Wright mention that in his “so called” sermon. A lot of eyes and ears were opened this week…thank God it’s not too late and we now know what is in Obama’s heart.

on March 15, 2008 at 5:25 pm13 jlazard10 k griffin,

where is the hatred that you see? Or rather, what is it that you find offensive?

I ask because apparently, I don’t find it offensive, so I’m very interested in what SPECIFICALLY are you offended by.

on March 16, 2008 at 2:18 pm14 Howard Does Dr. Wright believe all whites are rich, and oppressive of blacks? As a white person, If that is his belief than he nor you have a clue about the “white” experince in America. I don’t see the cold hard facts in putting a label on any race of people as witin all races there are vastly different experiences lved out by the members!!

on March 16, 2008 at 3:59 pm15 jlazard10 Rev. Wright has more than one time in sermons that I’ve sat in and listened to in the pews or in the choir stand that “Everyone of your color isn’t of your kind and everyone not of your color is against you.”

Now, the following comment is not speaking in lieu of Rev. Wright:

When the average black person would hear those sentiments expressed in the midst of a sermon, they are understood in the context that he does not mean “ALL” at least I never took him to mean all. But rather it was a coded language in which many black people have the key to unlock and understand.

The overall point is that it NEEDS to be understood and recognised that there are deep racial divisions and a Rev. Jeremiah Wright clearly lets the majority in white America know that because of the African American experience we have totally different world view and that it is perfectly alright and understandable to look at the world in that way. Moreover, that there is nothing written that we must subject ourselves to looking at it the way many white people may view it.

on March 17, 2008 at 12:15 am16 dL As a member of Trinity United Church of Christ for twelve years, it is important that we, as a Christian congregation, not only speak truth to power, but that we also stand firmly in defense of our retiring senior pastor, Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. It is an offense to the reading, listening, and video, broadcast and cable TV watching public of this country to permit unchallenged attacks against the Trinity UCC Christian community. To allow the skewering of Trinity UCC and by extension the United Church of Christ denomination is unconscionable in order to unfavorably convince American voters that Illinois Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential run somehow damages the republican democracy of this country by his church membership.

The statement below, ‘An Attack On Our Senior Pastor And The History Of The African American Church’ by the Minister of Communications at Trinity United Church should clear up media misconceptions, deliberate or unintentional. It is my hope that corrections are made to balance the coverage of Sen. Obama’s association with Trinity UCC.

Trinity Member —————-

Trinity United Church Of Christ 400 West 95th Street· Chicago, Illinois 60628 • Telephone (773) 962-5650 Executive Office Fax 773-238-2547 • Church Office Fax 773-962-0164 Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., Senior Pastor Rev. Otis Moss III, Pastor

Contact: The Rev. Joan R. Harrell, M.S., M.Div. Minister of Communications Phone: 773.9625650

“AN ATTACK ON OUR SENIOR PASTOR AND THE HISTORY OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CHURCH” Chicago, IL (March 15, 2008) - Nearly three weeks before the 40th commemorative anniversary of the murder of the Reverend. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., the Reverend Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr.’s character is being assassinated in the public sphere because he has preached a social gospel on behalf of oppressed women, children and men in America and around the globe.

“Dr. Wright has preached 207,792 minutes on Sunday for the past 36 years at Trinity United Church of Christ. This does not include weekday worship services, revivals and preaching engagements across America and around the globe, to ecumenical and interfaith communities. It is an indictment on Dr. Wright’s ministerial legacy to present his global ministry within a 15 or 30-second sound bite,” said the Reverend Otis Moss III, pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ.

During the 36 year pastorate of Dr. Wright, Trinity United Church of Christ has grown from 87 to 8,000 members. It is the largest congregation in the United Church of Christ (UCC) denomination.

“It saddens me to see news stories reporting such a caricature of a congregation that has been such a blessing to the UCC’s Wider Church mission,” said the Rev. John H. Thomas, UCC General Minister and President, in a released statement. ” … It’s time for us to say ‘No’ to these attacks and declare that we will not allow anyone to undermine or destroy the ministries of any of our congregations in order to serve their own narrow political or ideological ends.”

Trinity United Church of Christ’s ministry is inclusive and global. The following ministries have been developed under Dr. Wright’s ministerial tutelage for social justice: assisted living facilities for senior citizens, day care for children, pastoral care and counseling, health care, ministries for persons living with HIV/AIDS, hospice training, prison ministry, scholarships for thousands of students to attend historically black colleges, youth ministries, tutorial and computer programs, a church library, domestic violence programs and scholarships and fellowships for women and men attending seminary.

Moss added, “The African American Church was born out of the crucible of slavery and the legacy of prophetic African American preachers since slavery has been and continues to heal broken marginalized victims of social and economic injustices. This is an attack on the legacy of the African American Church which led and continues to lead the fight for human rights in America and around the world.”

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. preached the Christian tenet, “love thy neighbor as thyself.” Before Dr. King was murdered on April 4, 1968, he preached, “The 11 o’clock hour is the most segregated hour in America.” Forty years later, the African American Church community continues to face bomb threats, death threats and their ministers’ characters are assassinated because they teach and preach prophetic social concerns for social justice. Sunday is still the most segregated hour in America.


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1 posted on 03/16/2008 10:36:44 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

If you follow the reasoning of blacks that only white people can be racist because only white people have power—then its reasonable to conclude that Obama is aspiring to be a racist. Therefor people listen to his pastor in order to find out just how racist he intends to be.


2 posted on 03/16/2008 10:47:08 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: doug from upland
But, I encourage those to please read Soul Jonz blog because this is where Obama’s pastor gets his theology from. Oh yes, this is not some crackpot, whack job, bootleg preacher, this is an educated man. One need only do a Google search to obtain a biography of Jeremiah Wright. I mean, the attacks against this man and his family are purely based on ignorance of facts and experience.

So too is Ward Churchill an educated man. He and Lewis are both still hateful fools. Of course, Churchill is a faux Indian. At least Lewis is genuinely black.

3 posted on 03/16/2008 10:47:30 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: doug from upland

“I mean, the political pundits are using overarching terms to describe Wright’s sermons such as “hate speech” which I think is very interesting because none of them are denouncing the verarcity of what he said.”

No one is “denouncing the veracity” of the idea that AIDS was started by the gov’t to wipe out blacks? What planet do these people live on?


4 posted on 03/16/2008 10:51:53 PM PDT by RussP
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To: doug from upland

Qbama, Williams and the whole crew c an believe whatever they want, and can be as racist as they want.

But, now that the lid has been lifted a little bit and America has peered into this seething hell through the telescope of Williams’ sermons on TV, white America is beginning to wake up.

Black politicians are going to come under much closer scrutiny in the future.

I will never vote for a man who wants to turn me into a second-class citizen in my own country.


5 posted on 03/16/2008 10:56:06 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: RussP

“No one is “denouncing the veracity” of the idea that AIDS was started by the gov’t to wipe out blacks?”

The ***irony*** is that PLANNED PARENTHOOD was created by Margaret Sanger, a white supremacist who attended KKK rallies and didn’t want the inferior races to breed. Eugenics is progressive!

Even today, Planned Parenthoods are strategically located near black neighborhoods, and abortion kills more blacks every year than cancer, violent crime, heart disease, AIDS, and accidents COMBINED.


6 posted on 03/16/2008 10:58:31 PM PDT by JHBowden (Give peace a chance! Kill Terrorists!)
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To: doug from upland
I mean, just because we label it hate speech, which it is not, does not mean that he’s not speaking truth. I mean, the political pundits are using overarching terms to describe Wright’s sermons such as “hate speech” which I think is very interesting because none of them are denouncing the verarcity of what he said.

I'll denounce the "veararcity" of what he said. Wright's beliefs that America "had 9/11 coming" or that AIDS was invented in a laboratory to wipe out black people are idiotic and Hitlerian, and only someone with the mind of a very stupid child could hold them.

7 posted on 03/16/2008 10:59:35 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: RussP
What planet do these people live on?

That is a wonderful straight line, but I ain't touching it.

8 posted on 03/16/2008 11:00:53 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Barack Hussein Obama: THE WRIGHT STUFF)
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To: doug from upland
“Hillary Clinton aint never been called a nigger”

“Barack Obama aint never been called a bitch”, counters the man-hating feminist.

Change?

No, just the same old left-wing hate politics.

9 posted on 03/16/2008 11:03:41 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: doug from upland

This is a very important post, in that is lays bare the Drive-By Media hidden fact that this paranoid buffoonery is rampant in certain segments of society.

I would wager that a majority of Democrats in this country have no problem with what Wright says.


10 posted on 03/16/2008 11:04:07 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Barack Hussein Obama: THE WRIGHT STUFF)
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To: doug from upland

Cant the Democrats just find a normal cross-dressing atheist vegan to run?


11 posted on 03/16/2008 11:16:50 PM PDT by woofie
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To: doug from upland

Hey Rev, John Edwards already did the “Two-Americas”. Stick with the N-word, it’s a crowd pleaser at Democrat functions.


12 posted on 03/16/2008 11:19:23 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: doug from upland

It seems to me that this whole incident has brought to light the fact that the Black Church is as much responsible for spreading the culture of victimization and hatred of the “white oppressor” as the Fundamentalist Mullahs are from their Mosques.


13 posted on 03/16/2008 11:19:27 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: doug from upland

Honestly, I got bored after about tenth
paragraph. I realize that me, being a
middle-aged white man, needs a secret
decoder ring to understand the subtle
inflections of people like the Rev.(?)
Wright. But trying to pass off the
left-wing liberation theology as a way
to happiness or prosperity to the flocks
is an injustice to the ignorant people
that listen to and believe this clap-trap.


14 posted on 03/16/2008 11:20:52 PM PDT by gigster
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To: woofie

Ya’ahl gots sumptin against mentally ill, perverted cross dressing Humanist ovo-lacto fur-persons? We gets welfare, and we votes Dem, too!


15 posted on 03/16/2008 11:22:48 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (God wants a Liberal or RINO hanging from every tree. Tar & feathers optional extras.)
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To: doug from upland

Coming back to this one for a later read. Good job with the post!


16 posted on 03/16/2008 11:24:29 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: CurlyDave

The scrutiny of the this radical anti-American movement will
not be reported from the old liberal boy’s network.
The new media has once again scooped the old media.

Shame on those who call themselves “objective” reporters.
The Chicago Tribune and Sun Times failed to be credible
for truthful reporting.


17 posted on 03/16/2008 11:26:45 PM PDT by ChiMark
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To: doug from upland
The fact that Rev. Wright speaks his drivel from the pulpit automatically throws all of it under the close, careful scrutiny of the Holy Writ. In putting people into two classes (black and non-black), he undoes what the Lord Jesus did by breaking down every barrier between God & man, and man & man. He erects these barriers anew, and fortifies them with the razor-sharp N-word. What a fool to go against the Lord. What an ass to get in the way of people's worship by getting up and saying such things. (I was taught that if a minister, or anyone, for that matter, were to get up to say something in church, the words spoken must be REALLY good, because that person is interrupting the worship time. God help the one who gets between the Lord and His children!)

The fact that Mr. Obama goes to a United Church of Christ (the most theologically liberal group around) speaks volumes about his realtionship with God. The fact that the members of this church, and even the elders, appear to have all the spiritual discernment of a dead aboeba, points to a dead church that is worshipping....what? Themselves? Their own box of imagined indignations? Their own racism, covered by a "We suffered, so we have a right...."

Either way, to quote Mr. T., "I pity da fool."

18 posted on 03/16/2008 11:55:30 PM PDT by Othniel (Kirk: Don't trust them. Don't believe them. Spock: They're dying. Kirk: LET THEM DIE.)
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To: doug from upland; admin

Ok ADMINS, where is the mandatory MEGA BARF ALERT on this thread??


19 posted on 03/16/2008 11:58:24 PM PDT by prophetic (I'm not afraid of calling his full name: Obama's full name is BARAK HUSSIEN OBAMA!!)
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To: doug from upland

Obama’s chickens.. have come home to roost!

I am loving this man.

Just loving it.

Any decent American would be shocked to hear such horrible rhetoric in a church of all places.

Thanks Obama! You have educated a nation on radical black theology. And just how UGLY it can be. Of course, not so ugly that Obama would leave the church or anything.

That would be.... too radical.


20 posted on 03/17/2008 12:18:39 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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