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Burke declares two St. Stan board members excommunicated
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Posted on 03/17/2008 11:12:26 AM PDT by 7thOF7th

ST. LOUIS -- St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke has declared the two new lay board members of St. Stanislaus Kostka church excommunicated. In letters sent to Bernice Krauze, a 65-year-old homemaker in St. Louis and Stan Rozanski, a 59-year-old construction superintendent from south St. Louis County Burke declared that each "are guilty of having committed the canonical crime of schism" and that they had excommunicated themselves from the Catholic church.

Krauze and Rozanski were elected to the board in August, replacing two board members who retired. The outgoing board members, Edward Florek and Stanley Novak, were part of the original Stanislaus Six — the lay board members whom Burke declared excommunicated in late 2005 after a prolonged battle over the church’s property and assets....

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Once again the Catholic Church is sullied by the actions of an Archbishop. He intends to steal the assets of this parish to bolster diocese coffers after a serious depletion because of the diocese's defense of the indefensible pedophiliac priests. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!
1 posted on 03/17/2008 11:12:30 AM PDT by 7thOF7th
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To: 7thOF7th

You are full of feces.


2 posted on 03/17/2008 11:16:50 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: 7thOF7th
It ain't the parish's money.

Why should this parish be exempt from the rules that apply to all others?

3 posted on 03/17/2008 11:18:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

It sounds like you are another good practicing Catholic hypocrite!


4 posted on 03/17/2008 11:28:02 AM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: 7thOF7th
correct link

You are very confused.

Archbishop Burke is very orthodox. He is defending the Church against liberals, such as the homosexual Marek Bozek, pastor of the schismatic Stanislaus Kostka church.

5 posted on 03/17/2008 11:32:23 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Conflict with Archdiocese
The controversy, involving the control of the temporal goods of the parish, centered on whether the property and monetary assets would be controlled by a pastor appointed by the archbishop, which is the canonical norm, or by a lay board of directors. The controversy began under John Cardinal Glennon and continued under Cardinal Joseph Ritter, Archbishop John L. May, Cardinal Justin Rigali and most recently under Archbishop Raymond Burke.

According to representatives of the lay board that, since 2005, exclusively governs St. Stanislaus Kostka Church, the current structure of the parish existed for over 100 years and the purpose of Burke’s actions was to take control of the assets of the parish for primarily economic reasons. They note that the parish had sustained and restored itself without financial assistance from the Archdiocese and claimed that Burke intended to close the parish once he had control of it.

The archdiocese alleges that the lay board of directors, in the early 1980s, without permission from Archbishop May, changed the original 1891 bylaws, which stipulated that the lay board was to function solely as an advisory body to the pastor and thus under the archbishop (cf. the Plenary Councils of Baltimore). Therefore, not long after his appointment, Burke mandated that the structure of the parish once again conform to Canon law. In response, the lay board formally appealed to the Holy See. That appeal was denied. However, the archdiocese does not dispute that the deed to the church property itself belongs not to the archdiocese but to the parish corporation.

In August 2004 Burke removed both priests from the parish and transferred the Polish ministry to St. John the Apostle and Evangelist parish across from St. Louis Union Station. In January 2005 he threatened the members of the parish board of directors with an interdict if they did not comply with his instructions by February 4, 2005. On February 10, 2005, the lay board had still not complied, and the archbishop issued an interdict against the board members, stating that they “knowingly, deliberately and publicly damaged seriously the unity of the Church.”

As of February 25, 2005, Burke’s reorganization plan for parishes in south St. Louis City permanently changed the personal parish for Polish Catholics in St. Louis to the nearby church of St. Agatha, the move to which was completed on July 1, 2005.

In December 2005, the lay board announced plans to hire a priest of the Diocese of Springfield-Cape Girardeau, the Rev. Marek B. Bozek, who was thereupon suspended by his bishop, the Most Reverend John J. Leibrecht, for leaving his post without permission. In response to the action of the board, on December 16, 2005, Burke declared that Father Bozek and the lay board members (Dr. Joseph Rudawski and Messrs. John Baras, William Bialczak, Edward Florek, Stanley Novak, and John Robert Zabielski), by their actions, were guilty of the ecclesiastical crime of schism from the Roman Catholic Church, an offense to which is automatically attached the penalty of excommunication. In a letter to Catholics in the Archdiocese, he warned the faithful that they would be committing a mortal sin if they knowingly attempt to receive sacraments from a priest who is in formal schism. Burke also announced his intention to suppress the parish, as it is no longer in communion with the Catholic Church. Following Burke’s announcement, a crowd estimated at greater than 1,500 attended the first Mass to be celebrated by the new pastor, on Christmas Eve 2005.”Backers Join Ousted Priest in ‘Illicit’ Mass”. [citation needed] Subsequently, on December 29, 2005, Abp. Burke canonically suppressed St. Stanislaus Kostka Parish, since it now operated independently of the Apostolic See, the Archdiocese, and the Roman Catholic Church.


6 posted on 03/17/2008 11:32:35 AM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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I have no idea who you are, but the Polish priest of this parish is there in disobedience to his archbishop, and is part of the progressive crowd that ordains women. He has a reputation of living with his homosexual lover.

No need to call anyone names here, many in the parish are going by a popularity contest, not diocesan rules.


7 posted on 03/17/2008 11:32:54 AM PDT by Judith Anne (I have no idea what to put here. Not a clue.)
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To: 7thOF7th
It sounds like you are another good practicing Catholic hypocrite!

Bigoted much?

8 posted on 03/17/2008 11:33:52 AM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: 7thOF7th
None of that matters.

What matters is that the parish belongs to the Archdiocese, not the Russian Mafia.

9 posted on 03/17/2008 11:40:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Judith Anne
Can we agree that Archbishop Burke intends to sell off the property these parishioners have contributed to for many many years? Why do you think this should be done? As for any reference to homosexual groups or priests, I think the record is well established that the church is full of these closet types and at least some of them are bold enough to come out and admit it. Regardless of the current priest's sexual predilections he is serving the parish on their request. I just think the whole situation stinks to high heaven.

“Religion is the opiate of the masses” Karl Marx

10 posted on 03/17/2008 11:43:01 AM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: Petronski

Not at all, just pragmatic. I call them as I see them.


11 posted on 03/17/2008 11:45:37 AM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: 7thOF7th
Not at all...

LOL

12 posted on 03/17/2008 11:47:45 AM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: 7thOF7th

‘“Religion is the opiate of the masses” Karl Marx’

I’m not a Catholic, but you post these words on a conservative forum to back up your point? WTF are you thinking?


13 posted on 03/17/2008 11:49:14 AM PDT by xone
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The words have a message and if you can get past the bias of your ideology you would see it. Karl Marx was a writer not a despot leader who murdered thousands. Lenin is the person you need to discount.
14 posted on 03/17/2008 11:52:42 AM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: 7thOF7th
"As for any reference to homosexual groups or priests, I think the record is well established that the church is full of these closet types and at least some of them are bold enough to come out and admit it. Regardless of the current priest's sexual predilections he is serving the parish on their request. I just think the whole situation stinks to high heaven."

I had some sympathy for your economic arguments but then you posted this, losing all credibility. The everybody does it excuse does not fly. "Let God be true and every man a liar." It appears your problem is more with Christianity that with the Catholic church.

15 posted on 03/17/2008 11:57:20 AM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: 7thOF7th

Marx was not a despot leader. However, he was an architect of murderous despotism.


16 posted on 03/17/2008 11:59:44 AM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: 7thOF7th

I obviously don’t have the whole story.

Is this a Roman Catholic Parish or an Eastern one?

It seems the actual church is owned by the parish, not the Diocese. Is that correct?

Is the priest an actual practicing homosexual (or reasonably gives the impression he is)?

Does the Archbishop intend to close the parish? And if so what is the actual reason?

For some reason I’m picturing a new Bishop Ireland, but I may be completely wrong and don’t want to falsely harbor ill will.


17 posted on 03/17/2008 12:09:16 PM PDT by JosephW (Mohammad Lied, People die!)
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To: 7thOF7th

The priest at the parish refuses to leave, the parishioners are supporting him in his disobedience, he continues to conduct masses in defiance of the Archbishop’s order, this is very nearly an entire parish in schism.

The Holy See refused their legal petition. They are refusing to comply.

To see this apostate priest Bozek and his cronies in open defiance of their ecclesiastical leaders as some kind of heroic revolutionaries is nothing but blindness. Priests do not serve at the parish’s request, they serve at the order of the archbishop over them. Bozek has now disobeyed two of them.


18 posted on 03/17/2008 12:11:39 PM PDT by Judith Anne (I have no idea what to put here. Not a clue.)
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To: JosephW

Burke has been an excellent bishop. This is a case of liberal priest’s defiance, and a parish that has 1)appealed to Rome and then, when they didn’t get the ruling they wanted, 2)rejected the ruling of Rome.

For support, the apostates have gathered other protestors around them; those in favor of homosexual marriage, the ordination of women, etc. They are creating a circus to obscure the fact that they lost on the legal issues.


19 posted on 03/17/2008 12:15:17 PM PDT by Judith Anne (I have no idea what to put here. Not a clue.)
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To: 7thOF7th

The Catholic Church has a structure, and a group cannot operate outside that structure and be in communion with the Catholic Church. It’s that simple. Whether they operated in that way for 1 year or 100 years, the norms are laws of the Church.

If they feel like Burke will unfairly sacrifice them, there are avenues to pursue within the Church. Their appeal was denied. They need to accept that.

Parishes cannot hire their own priests and remain in communion with Rome. At this point, they should do the right thing and leave the Church if they cannot abide by its structure and authority.


20 posted on 03/17/2008 12:15:41 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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