Regulating home schoolers/ Homeschooling is elitist and illiberal (Liberal/Marxist POV)

latimes.com/ ^ | March 13, 2008 | Walter P. Coombs and Ralph E. Shaffer

[wintertime]

A California appellate court has struck terror in the ranks of home schooling advocates by ruling that their children can't be taught at home without at least some oversight. Public education foes see this as an all-out attack on the concept of home schooling. That is not the case. And members of The Times editorial board didn't get it right either.

(snip)

It's evident that the vast majority who teach their offspring in front of the television do so because they don't want their children to be subjected to such dangerous doctrines as evolution, abortion, global warming, equal rights and other ideas abhorrent to the evangelical mantra....

(snip)

There has always been something decidedly elitist and anti-democratic in home schooling.It smacks of a belief that privileged children should not have to associate with the other kids in the neighborhood and that by staying home, they would not be subjected to the leavening effect of democracy.

Moreover, it is apparent from the cries of the far right that there has been a specific policy in home schooling -- to teach only the ideas acceptable to ideologues who fear the contaminating influence of what is commonly known as a liberal education.

[CommerceComet]

I fixed the error in your title: (Liberal/Marxist POV POS). ;-)

[GAB-1955]

It means that the educators regard all homeschoolers as bigots whose only reason for homeschooling is to keep their kids away from the black and Latino kids. That, of course, is far from the truth, save for a brief period in Southern history when schools were first desegregated. These days, my daughter, who was homeschooled, works and relates to all ethnic groups well.

[elk]

Let me get this right. The same people who say a female should be able to abort her child BEFORE they are born, who screams to all "Keep your hands off my body!" and that she has full "choice," are the same folks who then want to take control of the products of reproduction after they've arrived alive?

This doesn't even pass the logic and hypocracy sniff test.

So, someone needs to tell those educrats to keep their hands off my reproductive products; and my exercise of reproductive "choice" includes properly educating said products.

[wintertime]

Sitting here laughing!

[wintertime]

These authors are the same people who believe a 12 year old can choose a competent and ethical abortionist, but whose parents are too dumb to choose the best educational setting for their kids.

[metmom]

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list.

They're condemning the very thing that they are doing.

[Clintonfatigued]

Very true.

However, it’s a mistake to label public education as Marxist. It’s actually of fascist origin.

[I got the rope]

BTTT

[kimmie7]

I’ll see your BTTT and raise you a Homeschooling-Mom-BTTT!

;-)

[narses]

+

Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

[Myrddin]

Another pair of ignorant crap weasels with access to the premier fish wrap in Los Angeles. They obviously don't appreciate the war zone that is the public school classroom. They disapprove of parents keeping their children away from schools that preach sexual perversion as "normal". They are too ignorant to understand that California public schools are near the bottom of achievement nationwide.

My son finished with a 4.33 GPA, but that was the result of lots of study at home. Work well above what the bonehead public teachers and their curriculum expected or provided. The teachers assigned to his "AP" classes were incompetent. He "fixed" that problem by conducting study sessions during the week for his classmates. At times, he even stepped in for the "teacher" who was being paid to keep the seat warm.

Having seen the poor California schools up close, I'm quite certain that a home schooling approach has a fair probability of doing a better job. The national spelling bees have been dominated in recent years by home schooled students.

[Antoninus]

There has always been something decidedly elitist and anti-democratic in home schooling.It smacks of a belief that privileged children should not have to associate with the other kids in the neighborhood and that by staying home, they would not be subjected to the leavening effect of democracy.

Quick--take a poll of the LA Times ed board and where their own kids attend school. I'll bet for those who actually have children, they're not going to public school and mixing with the "other kids in the neighborhood."

[JasonC]

Homeschooling doesn't require defense, it is nature.

State schooling does, because it has been horribly failure in practice, failing to teach actual truth and instead becoming a political indotrination tool exclusively (for some that the entire point from the start), peddling the worst ideas in human history, and directly enabling wholesale slaughters that would make the bloodiest tyrants of former ages blush for shame.

Burn it to the ground.

[JasonC]

Like they are mutually exclusive. Not.

[Cowgirl]

Is he saying homeschoolers have zero tolerance?

[Tired of Taxes]

This line is more accurate with a few words replaced:

Moreover, it is apparent from the cries of the far right left that there has been a specific policy in home public schooling -- to teach only the ideas acceptable to ideologues who fear the contaminating influence of what is commonly known as a liberal education common sense.

;-)

[latina4dubya]

and they would probably refer to my homeschooled Latino kids as coconuts or oreos...

[DieHard the Hunter]

> It smacks of a belief that privileged children should not have to associate with the other kids in the neighborhoodchild molesterers, perverts and perverted teachings and that by staying home, they would not be subjected to the leavening effect of democracypornography and filth.

There, fixed it.

I had a "Road to Damascus" experience when I read on another thread that gay porn was being made required reading at one hi school. Crikey -- my brain exploded!

Mr Silverback, Grizzled Bear, Dave and all others with whom I have had debate on this subject in the past -- you were right and I was wrong.

> Moreover, it is apparent from the cries of the far right that there has been a specific policy in home schooling -- to teach only the ideas acceptable to ideologuesdecent folk who fear the contaminating influence of what is commonly known as a liberal education vice, damnation and filth.

I am pleased that my kids get a good religious education at an Integrated School (run by the SDAs). We are fortunate that way. If not for that, I believe I would now consider homeschooling as a good viable option.

I learn alot from the Free Republic: this is not the first time I have changed my World View as a result of this wonderful facility (thanks Jim Rob!) -- among other things, during my sojourn here I have changed my world view on the State of Israel and the role of Islam. So thanks all for your patience with me.

When you are Right, you are right. That which is Left is Wrong.

*DieHard the Hunter*

[JenB]

Hey, good for you for having the openness of mind to acknowledge you were wrong! I remember arguing with you on a couple threads about homeschooling and thinking that you made sense, you were just wrong about how corrupt the system is here. Glad your kids get good schooling where you are.

[DieHard the Hunter]

> Glad your kids get good schooling where you are.

Thanks Jen, and thanks for being generous about it.