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Regulating home schoolers/ Homeschooling is elitist and illiberal (Liberal/Marxist POV)
latimes.com/ ^ | March 13, 2008 | Walter P. Coombs and Ralph E. Shaffer

Posted on 03/17/2008 5:28:21 PM PDT by wintertime

A California appellate court has struck terror in the ranks of home schooling advocates by ruling that their children can't be taught at home without at least some oversight. Public education foes see this as an all-out attack on the concept of home schooling. That is not the case. And members of The Times editorial board didn't get it right either.

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It's evident that the vast majority who teach their offspring in front of the television do so because they don't want their children to be subjected to such dangerous doctrines as evolution, abortion, global warming, equal rights and other ideas abhorrent to the evangelical mantra....

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There has always been something decidedly elitist and anti-democratic in home schooling.It smacks of a belief that privileged children should not have to associate with the other kids in the neighborhood and that by staying home, they would not be subjected to the leavening effect of democracy.

Moreover, it is apparent from the cries of the far right that there has been a specific policy in home schooling -- to teach only the ideas acceptable to ideologues who fear the contaminating influence of what is commonly known as a liberal education.

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KEYWORDS: homeschool; homeschooling; leftistgarbage; leftspew
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To: wintertime

“There has always been something decidedly elitist and anti-democratic in home schooling.” You shoudl have known this was coming.

This is not so much anti-homeschooling rhetoric as anti-Christ philosophy. They hate homeschooling because they hate Christ.

These “liberal educators” are not proponents of freeing the mind as one might think liberal connotes. Rather these men are totalatarians who want to indoctrinate students into statist thinking.

These postmodernists are threatened by Jews and Christians who believe in Scripture as absolute truth. They view Christianity as an attack on their god of Tolerance.

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41 posted on 03/18/2008 6:02:47 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonII
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To: GeorgeWashingtonII
They would kill us if they could get away with it.

I fear that in the not too distant future Christians will be living in catacombs.

42 posted on 03/18/2008 6:11:20 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime
It's evident that the vast majority who teach their offspring in front of the television do so because they don't want their children to be subjected to such dangerous doctrines as evolution, abortion, global warming, equal rights and other ideas abhorrent to the evangelical mantra

If one leaves a child in front of a television for any length of time, the child will see nothing but 'evolution, abortion, global warming, equal rights and other ideas abhorrent to the evangelical mantra'. If you want to educate a child properly, you would have to use books currently anathema to the current line of progressive thinking, such as the Bible, Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations et cetera

It would seems that those who are attacking homeschooling are attacking a straw-man, who does not exist.

43 posted on 03/18/2008 6:42:05 AM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: elk
Hats off to you, bingo! In the hoop! Touchdown!

Yours:

Let me get this right. The same people who say a female should be able to abort her child BEFORE they are born, who screams to all "Keep your hands off my body!" and that she has full "choice," are the same folks who then want to take control of the products of reproduction after they've arrived alive?

This doesn't even pass the logic and hypocracy sniff test.

So, someone needs to tell those educrats to keep their hands off my reproductive products; and my exercise of reproductive "choice" includes properly educating said products.

Additionally? Males have absolutely NO right in whether or not a baby is aborted. However, should "she" choose, men can be forced against their will to pay childsupport for some 18+ years. Feminist extortion.

"Sexual Reparations", IOW.

And now from the same Sexual Reparations, featuring now, 5-star showing in CA is "Indoctrinational Reparations"; subheadline: "we must metaphysically lobotomize, post-birth, each and every child. A little "snip" on the metaphysic umbilical cord between child and parent only hurts for the time...." Logan's Run.

44 posted on 03/18/2008 6:50:14 AM PDT by Alia
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To: elk
So, someone needs to tell those educrats to keep their hands off my reproductive products; and my exercise of reproductive “choice” includes properly educating said products.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

These are the same people who in the name of the “Sacred Environment” admire and would welcome China's “one child only” policy, and all the brutal force that accompanies that policy.

45 posted on 03/18/2008 7:05:28 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter; wintertime; Grizzled Bear; DaveLoneRanger; Jim Robinson
Mr Silverback, Grizzled Bear, Dave and all others with whom I have had debate on this subject in the past -- you were right and I was wrong.

I would like to note that I'm not even the slightest bit surprised that you are being so gracious. Even in our disagreements, you had my respect, and I'm very glad to have you aboard for this fight.

God Bless, Mr. S.

46 posted on 03/18/2008 7:45:49 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: wintertime
There has always been something decidedly elitist and anti-democratic in home schooling.It smacks of a belief that privileged children should not have to associate with the other kids in the neighborhood and that by staying home, they would not be subjected to the leavening effect of democracy.

Spoken like someone completely ignorant of the realities of homeschooling. Homeschooled kids are not only involved with kids their own age, on town sports teams, and even some public school activities, they are also involved with all other age groups, and that makes them more well rounded individuals.

47 posted on 03/18/2008 8:39:31 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
There is nothing normal about herding children into prison-like buildings, segregating them by age, and training them to respond to bells like one of Pavlov's dogs. It is creepy!

If 150,000 years of our human ancestors could see how we treat children in our government schools they would be scratching their heads in befuddlement.

Also...The most segregated institutions in the U.S. are our government schools. There is NOTHING that comes even close in racial, economic, class, and age segregation. Only the government ( with its threat of police action) could pull something like this off on such a grand scale. People in normal living don't do this.

By the way, a woman from my church visited me yesterday. She works for a county elementary school. It has 750 children! It has 6 classes of every grade! Wow! Talk about a factory! This is normal??? It is impossible for the teachers in that school or the principal to know the names and families of all of those children. The children themselves can not know all the children even in their same grade.

49 posted on 03/18/2008 11:38:48 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Cowgirl
Is he saying homeschoolers have zero tolerance?

Yes, and he doesn't tolerate people like that!

50 posted on 03/19/2008 9:17:22 AM PDT by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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