Posted on 03/17/2008 6:41:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Ezra Klein’s a smart guy, so I’m assuming this is a parody of liberal cluelessness rather than the real thing:
"Does anyone believe a long association with Jerry Falwell's church would have done anything but help McCain in the Republican primary, and gotten Democrats tagged as anti-religion when they tried to point out Falwell's nuttiness in the general? It's fine to be a Christian extremist in America. It's fine to believe, and say publicly, that everyone who hasn't accepted Jesus Christ into their heart will roast in eternal hellfire, fine to believe that the homosexuals caused Hurricane Katrina and the feminists contributed to 9/11, fine to believe we must support Israel so the Jews can be largely annihilated in a war that will trigger the End Times, fine to believe we're in a holy battle with the barbaric hordes of Islam, fine to believe that we went to the Middle East to prove "our God is bigger than your God." What you can't believe is that blacks have suffered a long history of oppression in this country, that they're still face deep institutional discrimination, and that a country where 100 percent of the presidents have been rich white guys is actually run by rich white guys. More to the point, even if you do believe those things, you certainly can't be angry about it!"
What horseshit. If John McCain were an evangelical Christian and a longstanding member of Jerry Falwell’s congregation, and if he had written a memoir describing, say, how he was “born again” under Falwell’s influence, he would not be the Republican nominee today.
(Excerpt) Read more at rossdouthat.theatlantic.com ...
If that's how the obamanites are gonna spin this, they make slick willy seem like Mr. Rogers.
It seems that something about liberalism atrophies the part of a person’s brain that allow then to process information is a logical and linear manner.
The lefties are desperately searching for a way to defend Obama and his racist, anti-American preacher. The only way they can think of is by attacking conservative Christians and equating them to this racist demagogue. Alan colmes is not on H&C tonight; he must have given himself a stroke during his hysterics last night.
There are many things that could be said about Falwell, some good , some bad, Falwell never said “G*d D*mn America” and the Left would try to make an issue out of a McCain Falwell Jedi-Padwan relationship like a chicken would be on a June bug.
It is quite funny watching the media trying to run false comparisons though..
Hmm, if this was John McCain the media would be piling on. Instead the media is desparately grasping for moral equivalency straws hoping to save their messiah.
Jerry Falwell was a class act.
He (Falwell) never preached about anything without giving bible references, something the Rev. Wright has done upon more than one occasion.
It is interesting how Falwell has been labeled a radical extremist and those who associate with him are tarnished..
He is not that at all. He was a solid evangelical Christian, yes a fundamentalist Christian who interpreted and preached Christianity as preachers have done over the ages.
I have never personally heard him, but he used to be on TV Saturday evenings and on occasion I did listen to him. I never heard a word that could classified as hate come out of his mouth, and although I was raised and worship in a liturgical church, I found his sermons “spot on.”
Interesting how people get these labels.
With the Easter Season upon us, most churches are focused on the message of Christ Rising and hope.
Did Wright have any mention of Easter in his most recent Sunday Service?
Or is his church a church of hollow words and divisive substance?
I have no doubt Falwell preaches the gospel. What does Wright preach?
There is no comparison.
I heard this Falwell-Wright faux comparison before. Mr. Falwell’s objections to homosexuality are hardly comparable to Mr. Wright’s objections to America and white people.
I have a news flash for anyone with like opinions to the writer of this drivel: Re; eternally roasting in Hell if not a believer, etc.”
There are only 2 eternal destinations! One of the destinations can be reached by acquiring a FREE TICKET. To acquire that FREE TICKET, all one needs to do is admit their shortcomings, ask forgiveness and trust the crucified, risen and ascended Savior Jesus Christ for salvation.
To reach the other destination, the one of eternal roasting; one needs DO NOTHING! Just continue on your merry way, ignore, or worse yet, bad-mouth God and His Son, and you will automatically arrive there when your journey here is done. Not because God WANTS you to go there, but because you spurned the FREE TICKET that could have kept you OUT OF THERE!
Your life situation is this: You are like a person in an automobile which is stopped in the middle of the railroad tracks, and there is a highspeed freight train coming down the tracks. You have 2 choices. You can move, or you can just stay there. But while you are deciding, or refusing to decide, you are ALREADY IN THE WORST OF THE TWO CHOICES.
Do you want the FREE TICKET? All you’ve got to do is sincerely ASK FOR IT. Turn your nose up and refuse to ask for the ticket, you automatically go to the other place. THERE ARE ONLY TWO PLACES TO GO IN ETERNITY. WHAT PART OF THAT DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND?
Although I heard very little of Mr. Falwell's talks, I assume he brought up the Biblical condemnations of homosexuality. If so, it is a greater act of love to warn someone that the road they are heading on leads to destruction, and eternal damnation, than to tell that person that 'all is well' with their walk in order to provide them temporal comfort at the expense of eternal pain. It is true that the person who says 'all is well', when it is not, will win accolades from the world. And the person who warns of the danger head will get scorn -- but its a greater act of genuine love to endure the slings and arrows of the world and yet warn people, than to keep silent.
1 Corinthians 6
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
And if you've been walking the wrong walk, take comfort in the following verse for those who have 'turned':
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
I see Mr. Falwell as someone who was doing his duty - performing the part of a good Watchman...
Ezekiel 33
1 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:
3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;
4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.
5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.
6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.
7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.
8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
10 Therefore, O thou son of man, speak unto the house of Israel; Thus ye speak, saying, If our transgressions and our sins be upon us, and we pine away in them, how should we then live?
11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
AMen to all three of your comments. Nice that they are trying to make these comments after Rev. Falwell can’t defend himself. I’m sure he’d have a lively and quite entertaining response to that comparison. Plus, he’d ask the “Rev.” White to sit a spell and discuss his views, man-to-man.
And Falwell always backed his pronouncements with biblical references. Still looking for Rev. Wrights bible reference (Book and Verse) for anything he has said regarding things Biblical.
He (Rev. Wright) does blame the US Government with causing AIDs , cocaine addiction of blacks and other medical and social problems without giving proof.
Sounds like a Rev. without credentials. A Rev. with an agenda … (a good retirement fund mayhap).
Jim Jones without all the death comes to mind.
The spiritual leader of our (potential) next president?
Falwell a class act? Not if these quotes are accurate. Anyone know if these lines will Snopes-ify?
“Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions.”
“AIDS is not just God’s punishment for homosexuals; it is God’s punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”
“I listen to feminists and all these radical gals - most of them are failures. They’ve blown it. Some of them have been married, but they married some Casper Milquetoast who asked permission to go to the bathroom. These women just need a man in the house. That’s all they need. Most of the feminists need a man to tell them what time of day it is and to lead them home. And they blew it and they’re mad at all men. Feminists hate men. They’re sexist. They hate men - that’s their problem.”
“It’s fine to believe, and say publicly, that everyone who hasn’t accepted Jesus Christ into their heart will roast in eternal hellfire”
Ole Ross needs to dust off gramma’s Bible and READ the thing. The above statement is what it’s all about.
"Ole Ross needs to dust off gramma’s Bible and READ the thing. The above statement is what it’s all about."
You don't understand: To the left, the whole Bible IS hate speech!
How is he wrong?
Feminists are some seriously screwed up females. Feminism is partially to blame for the serious cultural toilet swirl we have today in this country. Lack of personal responsibility is the other major part.
And before the ladies start freaking out. I believe in equal pay and equality of opportunity and equality under the law. But don't ever try to tell me that women and men are EQUAL and that a woman can do any job a man can do. Because there are jobs you can't do. Women have no business trying to be infantrymen. Men have no place giving birth to babies. We're not equally interchangeable; we're differnt types of people ladies. All the same, I think ladies need to have doors opened and all the good things that gentlemen used to do.
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