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Mumpower Accuses Shuler, Armor, and Campbell of Pandering on FISA
Mumpower08 e-mail (not yet, if ever, posted to campaign website) ^ | March 19, 2008 | Mumpower campaign e-mail

Posted on 03/19/2008 11:26:36 AM PDT by MitchellC

Mumpower Accuses Shuler, Armor, and Campbell of Pandering on FISA

11th District Republican Congressional candidate Carl Mumpower has taken the offensive in challenging candidates Heath Shuler, John Armor, and Spence Campbell for their shared position in support of FISA immunity and the warrantless wiretapping of American Citizens.

"The speed with which my colleagues bunched together speaks either to a clear disregard for the United States Constitution or the need to pander to voters' fears," said Mumpower. "In either case, we have a trio of strange bedfellows - unified behind a bill that dodges the real problems, supports big-government, and tramples on individual liberties."

Citing the fact that many of his own supporters in the Republican Party have contacted Mumpower in recent days to express their disagreement with his position, he reiterated his credentials as an "independent" Republican and his unwillingness to follow the herd on this or any other issue.

"My own supporters are coming after me on this," said Mumpower. "I must have received a half a dozen angry letters already today. But it would be wrong to back down on my principles just to say whatever it takes to get elected. When I say I'm independent, I mean it and I will not sidestep the right thing for the easy thing."

Expanding on the legislation itself, Mumpower commented: "Intelligence failures, the kind which resulted in the horrors of 9-11, are often used to stress the importance of nonsense like the warrantless wiretapping provisions found in FISA. They more accurately reflect a failure in analysis and interdepartmental cooperation than a lack of information," said Mumpower. "The various government agencies trying to protect us can't process and act on the information they have - avoiding accountability and applying situational ethics to our system of checks and balances through FISA is reactive versus responsible leadership."

"Evidently my colleagues have not looked deep enough into existing FISA law (18 USC 2530-d and 50 USC 1806-f) to understand that telecoms already have immunity where they acted 'pursuant to written government certification or where they prove they acted in good faith' and that they are free to present any evidence of their defense in secret", said Mumpower. "There is a difference in having reasonable immunity for doing the right thing and a blank check for taking short-cuts and ignoring the law."

" Ben Franklin has a quote that speaks clearly to the over-extension of FISA", said Mumpower, "Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." "It is my honor to stand apart from the other three candidates for the 11th Congressional seat, the President, and a host of other lock-step politicians who are undermining the rule of law and our civil liberties behind a mask of nobility."

CarL Mumpower
11th District Republican Congressional Candidate


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: fisa; johnarmor; mumpower; telecom
Does Carl Mumpower really want to debate the Constitution with John Armor?
1 posted on 03/19/2008 11:26:38 AM PDT by MitchellC
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To: Bat_Chemist

NC ping


2 posted on 03/19/2008 11:27:00 AM PDT by MitchellC (Thomas Sowell: 'I will be delighted.. if someone with such views gets elected.' ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob; Spktyr; SmithL; DeFault User; PGalt; conservatism_IS_compassion; CPT Clay; ...
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3 posted on 03/19/2008 11:28:03 AM PDT by MitchellC (Thomas Sowell: 'I will be delighted.. if someone with such views gets elected.' ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: MitchellC

>>Does Carl Mumpower really want to debate the Constitution with John Armor?

You say that as if it’s a bad thing. It’d be nice if all political debates were on constitutional principles rather than empty pandering contests.


4 posted on 03/19/2008 11:34:28 AM PDT by vikingd00d
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To: MitchellC

great, just what we needed. More ‘independents’......


5 posted on 03/19/2008 11:35:40 AM PDT by bpjam (Drill For Oil or Lose Your Job!! Vote Nov 3, 2008)
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To: vikingd00d

No, I think it’d be a great idea. I just think Mumpower might be getting in over his head.


6 posted on 03/19/2008 11:42:11 AM PDT by MitchellC (Thomas Sowell: 'I will be delighted.. if someone with such views gets elected.' ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: vikingd00d
Also, let me add that John has debated Mumpower and Spence Campbell several times already and a couple of them are available on John's YouTube page. Another is available on Google (2 hours).
7 posted on 03/19/2008 11:48:30 AM PDT by MitchellC (Thomas Sowell: 'I will be delighted.. if someone with such views gets elected.' ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: MitchellC

Bookmarked for John’s response. I’m sure he’ll have something to say. Since I’m a Republican voter in his district and plan on voting in the primary I’m interested in his response.


8 posted on 03/19/2008 11:48:58 AM PDT by saganite
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To: MitchellC
" Ben Franklin has a quote that speaks clearly to the over-extension of FISA", said Mumpower, "Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Spot on. Giving more power to government so they can deal with a "crisis" is always a bad deal. It's liberty lost that is never gotten back.

9 posted on 03/19/2008 12:19:05 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: MitchellC

C. Mumpower appears to be a dumbass.


10 posted on 03/19/2008 1:02:21 PM PDT by Scourge of God (Pretty Stupid, Evil Stupid, or Old Stupid -- is this the best our country can find for President?)
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To: MitchellC
John Armor fires back at primary opponent
11 posted on 03/19/2008 1:25:18 PM PDT by MitchellC (Thomas Sowell: 'I will be delighted.. if someone with such views gets elected.' ArmorforCongress.com)
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12 posted on 03/19/2008 3:06:31 PM PDT by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every "Bright".)
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To: MitchellC
Carl Mumpower gets the bit in his teeth on one of his pet ideas, and then he charges ahead without thinking it through. This is just one example of that.

He might have second thoughts, IF he reflected on the fact that his position is the same as that of Speaker Pelosi and the ACLU. But he didn't bother to think about that.

The folks in Western Carolina will not, by and large, cotton to his position on FISA.

John / Billybob

13 posted on 03/19/2008 5:23:03 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ( www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Poison Pill
As my reply makes clear, Mumpower has used a false “quote” from Franklin. The history of America's wars shows that the government always tightens up during the conflict, and relaxes a bit afterward.

It is the economic creep of the government that never retreats. The security creeps do retreat.

John / Billybob

14 posted on 03/19/2008 5:27:06 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ( www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob
It is the economic creep of the government that never retreats. The security creeps do retreat.

Retreat? Just what do you think they do with the extra money they grab with the economic creep? The backscatter machines will all be up and running soon. Biometrics won't be far behind. The following is from the TSA website. You can expect the following security creep "retreats" in the future:

Retinal scans. Fingerprint identification. A few years ago these things seemed like something out of a science fiction movie. Today, they continue to grow as important parts of our risk-based approach to security.

Biometric identification allows us to verify a person is who they say they are by using their own unique set of identifiers - whether fingerprints, iris scans or a combination of the two. We continue to test this technology at airports and harbors across the country, allowing us to control access to important facilities.

15 posted on 03/19/2008 6:34:59 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Congressman Billybob
One of the things that gets me about this Mumpower press release is how it impugns your motives for simply having disagreed with him.

I've been keeping up with his press releases and that is the general tone when he's talking about his Republican opponents. For someone who alleges to be a principled, 'independent Republican,' he sure does take every opportunity to make cheap shots like an establishment hack.

If he were wise he'd avoid the ad hominem and spend 110% of his energy defending his positions because, as you said, it's only taken a day for his supporters to start turning against him.

16 posted on 03/20/2008 2:36:09 AM PDT by MitchellC (Thomas Sowell: 'I will be delighted.. if someone with such views gets elected.' ArmorforCongress.com)
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