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Ethanol Hoax Spreads Economic Havoc
HUMAN EVENTS ^ | 03/19/2008 | Walter E. Williams

Posted on 03/19/2008 10:16:36 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: wideminded
And, it takes 1,700 gallons of water to produce one gallon of ethanol.

I don't know the source, but it has been quoted enough. Subsidized, corn derived ethanol doesn't appear to make much sense, IMHO.

21 posted on 03/20/2008 12:48:31 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

self-ping and bttt


22 posted on 03/20/2008 1:02:15 AM PDT by shibumi (".....panta en pasin....." - Origen)
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To: All
I dont need to worry I drive a ZAP PK Electric . Spent about $0.25 today to drive 40 miles. It cost me more to take the Balboa Island ferry that it does to drive for a week. im001848
23 posted on 03/20/2008 1:03:18 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: wideminded

I believe he was refering to the amount of water that it takes to grow the plant also. That would have to be taken into accouint as well.


24 posted on 03/20/2008 1:21:28 AM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: ME-262

Apparently you didn’t read the article.
He was making an analogy. Of course nobody eats only corn.

IF we were drilling our own oil and refining it the prices of oil and gas would be far lower and your so called oil barrons would not be making the billions they are now.

If your agenda was not in the way you would see that ethanol is not the replacement for oil.


25 posted on 03/20/2008 1:42:28 AM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: neverdem
I don't know the source, but it has been quoted enough.

The ethanol plants don't use that much water. The statistic apparently comes from counting the water used to grow the corn.

Subsidized, corn derived ethanol doesn't appear to make much sense, IMHO.

I agree.

26 posted on 03/20/2008 1:45:14 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: smoketree

See #26. I hadn’t read your post yet.


27 posted on 03/20/2008 1:46:54 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: neverdem

It’s a sin to burn food. This is where I start at.

We need to be digging up our clean Western coal reserves. Make it into electricity and run more electric cars


28 posted on 03/20/2008 1:51:09 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: Rudder

hygroscopic


29 posted on 03/20/2008 1:53:59 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: dennisw

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30 posted on 03/20/2008 2:02:15 AM PDT by Rudder (Klinton-Kool-Aid FReepers prefer spectacle over victory.)
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To: Rudder

yep :)


31 posted on 03/20/2008 2:09:56 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: neverdem
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Given the choice I definitely prefer Brazilian ethanol. (:^o)

32 posted on 03/20/2008 2:20:47 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: Cobra64

As long as they teach the right kind of economics....


33 posted on 03/20/2008 2:25:37 AM PDT by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: troy McClure
I dont need to worry I drive a ZAP PK Electric . Spent about $0.25 today to drive 40 miles. It cost me more to take the Balboa Island ferry that it does to drive for a week

I live in WA state where half the vehicles on the road are trucks or SUV's...every had an accident with something like that while driving that "truck"?

34 posted on 03/20/2008 2:29:00 AM PDT by highlander_UW (illegal alien is to an undocumented worker as a drug dealer is to an unlicensed pharmacist)
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To: dennisw

Right, or you can use Tropsch-Fischer and convert that coal to diesel. You can power a car with a 3 minute, two dollar, charge of compressed air and travel around 125 miles.

Ethanol is the bastard child of the Anthropogenic Global Warming Hoax, good intentions and abject stupidity. Take the government out of the equation and it would quickly become evident just how viable an alternative fuel it is. There are many viable options, Nuclear power being another, yet we are still paying exorbitant fuel prices and kissing the a$$e$ of OPEC and related countries for the privilege. It’s one big hoax and the sheeple seem more than content to go along for the ride; even if the ride costs three, creeping towards four dollars/gal. Not to mention making our enemies wealthy who would gladly see us (Western Civilization) destroyed.


35 posted on 03/20/2008 2:35:00 AM PDT by WildcatClan (Shut up about bootblacking! I like bootblacking, I like it very much.)
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To: CygnusXI; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; Normandy; Delacon; Fiddlstix; ...
 


Global Warming Scam News & Views

36 posted on 03/20/2008 2:45:39 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: LegendHasIt
"You expect this kind of ignorance and incompetence from Democrats, but the bozos ‘leading’ the Republican party are just as guilty, if not more so.

I just can't get any more disappointed in Bush.

Why he has gravitated to the dark side on the Globull Warming issue is beyong me--other than there was some back room deal with members of Congress and large Ethanol producers.

As far as I'm concerned he has talked the talk about exploring and developing our own known oil reserves, but has not walked the walked under any circumstances.

If I could adjust my foil hat a little, I might go so far as to suggest that he does NOT want to really drill for oil because that would upset his good "Buds" the Saudis and other oil producing countries in the Middle East--either as a favor or as a result of threats from the Moozie-led countries to withdraw their support for the WOT, as if they ever really have.

Look for LARGE contributions from Arab States (ala Clintoon) to his Library.

Those F'n, scumbag, goat-fornicating, Saudi camel jockeys, has way too much influence as lobbyist in Washington.

37 posted on 03/20/2008 2:47:51 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All)
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To: athelass

“Elementary School. Teach it while they’re still smart enough to understand it.”
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Excellent!


38 posted on 03/20/2008 2:54:53 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: neverdem

Kudzu is the answer, it is immortal and unstoppable, it provides protein for animals and incredible biomass. It will grow anywhere it is not wanted.


39 posted on 03/20/2008 2:59:46 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: neverdem
If Congress and President Bush say we need less reliance on oil and greater use of renewable fuels, then why would Congress impose a stiff tariff, 54 cents a gallon, on ethanol from Brazil?

Proof that ethanol is viable.

40 posted on 03/20/2008 3:17:28 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Duncan Hunter- The very Govts unwilling to support us in the WOT got the Fuel Tanker Deal)
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