Posted on 03/20/2008 7:11:35 AM PDT by jdm
Representative Ron Paul, Republican nominee for Congress in Texas district 14, believes there is a 'New Right' conspiracy against him in the GOP.
Despite the fact that he shifted effort from his Presidential campaign to ensure he beat the mainstream Republican, Chris Peden, in the Texas 14 primary, and that he still has neither endorsed John McCain for President nor even acknowledged that he needs to work with McCain to ensure Republican victory in November, Paul thinks the burden is on the party to come to him.
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Says the Washington Times:
The Texas congressman says neither he nor his supporters have heard from Mr. McCain or Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan since March 4, when the Arizona senator accumulated enough delegates to clinch the party's presidential nomination.
"I don't think they want them," Mr. Paul told The Washington Times, adding that indifference doesn't surprise him because the party's establishment has deserted traditional conservative principles for big government and foreign intervention.
"We don't agree with them," he says. "We agree with the Old Right, and they're the New Right, which is 'The Wrong,' [because] the New Right has morphed into neoconservative."
Look, Congressman, it's very simple: You have sold yourself as a Republican to the voters in your home district. They believed it, but the rest of us are not bound to do the same. After all your outlandish rhetoric this campaign season, the burden is on you to prove that you are back in the fold by endorsing John McCain for President. Just take that one step, and that will prove we can work with you.
Had you won the Republican nomination, surely anyone who failed to back you would have been relegated to Republican in Name Only status, and been held up for mockery and attack. The time has come for you to hold up your end of the deal and avoid that fate. Nobody will ask you to campaign for Senator McCain, though it would be nice of you to do some outreach to your supporters. Just ask your supporters to vote for him, though, in one simple, unambiguous statement. I have no connections inside the national GOP, but I have to believe that is all anyone wants.
What are you trying to do, make people think? Don’t you know that hurts?
He won’t. He promised his wife he’d only run as a Republican.
This is only her 2d term.
Holy crap. Are you really serious? Should we invade every country in the middle east, North Korea, Russia and some nations in Africa simultaneously?
Of course, using the 5GW Theory of Warfare, we don't always have to resort to military might. We can use cultural warfare, spread our ideas to their societies, enact free trade agreements. Build factories in the nations to employ their people to give them a higher standard of living. Loan them money. Google "5GW" and do lots of reading. A right-minded NGO can be more effective than several divisions of infantry, although on a longer timescale.
IMO, We are in a race to decide which culture is to be the common denominator globally. Ours, the Chinese, the Islamofascists, or the Tyrants of Europe. We dare not lose this one.
How old are you? I don’t think you really grasp the difference between liberals, conservatives, and libertarians.
No, he is not.
The left wants us out now as part of a political power grab. If we get out, that’s fine with them, but if a Dem is in the WH next year, there won’t be much call for ending the war from the liberals.
Otoh, Paul is opposed to the war on constitutional grounds. He doesn’t believe that we should be entangled in foreign alliances or in the internal affairs of other countries. There is a world of difference in the two positions.
That said, I think that Paul is missing the real world consequences such a pullout would have, but he is not a liberal. In practical terms, I can’t agree with him. On constitutional grounds, I can’t argue with him. He’s right.
Educate yourself and get the definition of neo-conservatism from Ron Paul himself. If you can’t handle him for three minutes, start listening at 1:35.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvHJzRe9xHo
So, with this theory, we will be like “1984” and in a constant state of war.
With this theory, we’d be no different than the Muslim. Convert or die.
I don’t think that I’ve ever run across any idea that I have ever disagreed with more. If left to their own devices, most of these Third World hell hole dictatorships will collapse on their own if we don’t prop them up. But to have a policy of war as an eventual end is insane.
Lead by example, not by war or threat of war.
We no longer live in the day when oceans can protect us from enemies abroad. Just look at the "Progressive Long March" through our Institutions of higher learning. They have conducted warfare against our civilization for well over 50 years, making advances slowly. We are now at the point where two college students can walk through a campus, one with a T-Shirt with Fidel Castro's face super imposed on an outline of Cuba with the Cuban Flag in the background, and get thumbs up from his peers, and professors. Now, the other student has on a T-Shirt with George W. Bush's face super imposed on an outline on the USA with an American Flag in the background, and get heckled by his peers AND the professors.
Now, tell me the result of non-engagement? If we do nothing, if we do not engage these people on every level, and in every theater of action, our grandchildren will live under tyranny of the strongest of our foes, whether it be lefties, Islamofascists or Chinese. That is if we do not engage, and go on the offensive. Life is a battle for survival from the moment we emerge from the womb (before, if you happen to have been conceived by lefties).
The danger we face is greater than at any time in American History. We are beset by foes on all sides, even domestically, and if we are to lose, I want to be remembered as like unto a Spartan...outnumbered a 100 to 1, and dying with a weapon in my hand or an enemy throat in my mouth.
I will not be one of those who wake up one morning, wondering where their freedom went. My language and imagery may be over the top, but that is how I see things.
Actually, Paul ended up being a PSEUDO-CON.
It matters not how you label this individual, the fact is he's NUTS and his supporters are just as nuts. His supporters are collectively as immature and as shallow as he is. I suppose immaturity, coupled with shallowness is bliss for them. They just don't get it!
So, in your view, there should be no freedom of speech or thought in America? No dissenting opinion? What ever happened to the days of, “I disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it”?
Yes, we should be prepared for war in the event of attack or imminent attack, but we should no more be involved in a holy war of our own to convert others to our way of life. If they cannot observe it and want to emulate it, why should we care?
By what authority do we act as you suggest? If you feel that it is your duty to convert people (to your religious or economic beliefs), do it on your own and on your dime. Or get a constitutional amendment delegating authority to the government to be the world’s policeman, preacher, and educator.
Oh, wait. The people — of We the People fame — do not have the authority to do any such thing (except as private individuals using persuasion) so they cannot delegate it to the government.
A lot of people tell me that I am over the top. I believe in total war to achieve victory. You don’t win anything with a truce unless you are losing the fight. I do think that we have a very serious task ahead of us to regain control of our government and our institutions, but not at the cost of liberty for the individual.
Good riddance, Ron Paul!
Um. Surely you jest. Which part of his platform would you consider neoconservative?
Holy crap. Are you really serious? Should we invade every country in the middle east, North Korea, Russia and some nations in Africa simultaneously?
I would just like to say how glad I am,thunderpig, that you are volunteering to personally finance such an endevor, as i don't think our national surplus will cover this one.
It’s time for YOU to move on from LEFTIST Ron Paul.
He’s FINISHED.
I'm still open to be convinced otherwise, but I have yet to see this particular variery of global welfare seem to work, regardless of the planner's intentions.
It all smells like Clintonian nationbuilding to me.
We cannot afford to allow them to take over any more countries than they already have, and by putting a moderate system in their very midst, we give them a target over there to hit instead of over here. And we trap them into attacking the tar baby again and again with their disposable warriors. THe general population over there see this, and learn it in their very gut how evil these Islamofascists really are...and slowly, ever so slowly, they might just turn on them. Some of them already are.
Those who aren't willing to sacrifice everything they have to shape the future will get the future someone else wants. Go ahead, Check out this link, read it carefully, and follow a few inks, and google some of the terminology. War is no longer what it was, and most of the struggle goes on unseen. Just as President George W. Bush told us, many of our victories will be unheralded, as well as some defeats. Like it or not, for the next few decades, we will be engaged in this struggle at nearly every level of our society.
So, in a way, Ron Paul has contributed far more to the enemy war effort than he has contributed to our cause. He has not done so on purpose. His intentions are good, but his knowledge base he is working from is fatally flawed.
And maclay, it is far more cost effective than you would ever believe. I used these techniques to destroy the local r3VOLution for less than a couple of hundred dollars, and have networked with others to do the same in other places.
Let me give you a piece of advice. Never, ever, ever, try to start a political r3VOLution on social networking sites. And never tell your opponent that you are coming for him. You make him mad, and you give him ample time to infiltrate your network to the very top levels.
What exactly justifies somebody extracting money from me, so that somebody in some desert somewhere is “free”? And how is that not a gigantic global welfare program?
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