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Vaccine Failure Means Setback in AIDS Fight
FOXNews.com ^ | Friday, March 21, 2008 | FOXNews.com

Posted on 03/21/2008 5:39:05 AM PDT by metmom

The two-decade search for an AIDS vaccine is in crisis after two field tests of the most promising contender not only did not protect people from the virus but may actually have put them at increased risk of becoming infected, The Washington Post reported.

Experts are questioning the overall strategy and scientific premises of the nearly $500 million in AIDS vaccine research funded annually by the government after the two field tests were halted last September and seven other trials of AIDS vaccines have either been stopped or put off indefinitely.

The recently closed studies, STEP and Phambili, were halted when it became clear the STEP study was futile and possibly harmful.

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KEYWORDS: aids; hiv; homosexualagenda; vaccine
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To: AD from SpringBay
There will never be a cure for this virus only treatment of symptoms, they are throwing money down a rat hole looking for a vaccine.
21 posted on 03/21/2008 6:06:44 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Alter Kaker

Hmm...

I suppose you can encounter idiots even on Free Republic.

Nice to meet you.


22 posted on 03/21/2008 6:12:39 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Alter Kaker
Yet the only threads in which the victims of a disease are regularly blamed are HIV/AIDS threads.

Well, if people with colds were making demands for funding and attempting to hold the rest of us morally responsible for them being sick, I would tell them to wash their hands better.

Cold medications are primarily responsible for people going to work sick and infecting even more people. Employers who encourage the sick to come to work anyway are also responsible. If we were talking about something more virulent than a cold, or if I were a person at high risk for complications if I contracted a cold, I could get really ticked off over that.

23 posted on 03/21/2008 6:13:41 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: BlackVeil

Exactly the same problem the HPV vaccine poses.


24 posted on 03/21/2008 6:14:12 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 50sDad
I am no expert...but have we ever killed a virus?

There are vaccines against many of them (smallpox etc.), but the development of one for AIDS just hit the wall. I am not a doctor or researcher, but IIRC, that particular virus mutates rapidly.

There are anti-viral treatments that reduce an already-infected individual's viral load. The treatments are currently expensive and of limited effectiveness, but progress is being made.

25 posted on 03/21/2008 6:14:29 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

It’s the only STD that was ever afforded civil rights.


26 posted on 03/21/2008 6:16:15 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: AD from SpringBay
aspirin and self-control do a pretty good job of protecting people from AIDS.

Aspirin is also a good birth control. Held between the knees, works every time its tried.

27 posted on 03/21/2008 6:16:18 AM PDT by MrPiper
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To: AD from SpringBay
The last two people I knew with AIDS are now dead. I also know smokers who have cancer and obese people with blown knees and clotted arteries. I have known drunks who died of cirrhosis. Does that all count?

Now, I'll admit I haven't conducted a formal audit of your posts, but I don't recall ever reading you castigating the obese, alcoholics, tobacco smokers, people with blown knees, etc. on any thread I've come across. And even when people criticize tobacco smoking, I have never, ever heard anyone suggest that the CDC should stop funding for lung cancer research because that will just encourage smokers. Nor have I seen condemnation of Lipitor, even though most people wouldn't need Lipitor if they exercised regularly ate healthily throughout their lives... we don't blame the victims there.

And yet... for some reason... every time we have any thread concerning HIV/AIDS, the same folks come out with cruel jokes and snide comments and make statements that you'd never see regarding any other disease. Why do you think that is? Most diseases are preventable. That includes most instances of stroke, most instances of heart disease and most instances of cancer. Why is HIV/AIDS treated differently from them?

28 posted on 03/21/2008 6:17:34 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: 50sDad
I am no expert...but have we ever killed a virus?

Viruses are easy to kill outside of the body. It's when they get inside that they're hard to kill without killing everything else around them.

A vaccine works by predisposing the immune system to recognize the invading virus and yank it out of the system before it multiplies. The classic example is polio.

The problem with HIV, and flu (though different families of viruses) is that they change their coat so frequently that the immune system can't keep up. Like some generals, it's always prepared to fight the last war. The flu virus changes in somewhat predictable ways so that a new vaccine can be prepared each year to at least offer some protection against the "new look" for that cycle. HIV is unpredictable at present.

29 posted on 03/21/2008 6:17:58 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: AD from SpringBay; Alter Kaker
Does that all count?

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Yes.

However, the question/statement was out of line, imho.

30 posted on 03/21/2008 6:18:13 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Alter Kaker
Maybe you should spend less time casting stones and more time thinking up solutions to one of the great moral tests of our time.

Great moral tests of all time? What a joke!

If people didn't engage in immoral behavior, this wouldn't be a problem.

There's no need to be wasting money finding a cure for something people could stop dead in its tracks with a change in their behavior. It is not contagious like air or water borne pathogens. It's strictly a behavioral issue.

So what about the moral obligation gays have to the rest of the population in putting a stop to this killer themselves? It's in their court now. They could do it.

31 posted on 03/21/2008 6:18:30 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Alter Kaker
Maybe it's because you don't actually know anybody with HIV?

I used to, but they all died. The only gay friend who survived is an ex-gay who did some serious thinking about his lifestyle when HIV (back when it was still called GRID) was discovered, realized that he COULD change his behavior, and did. I've lost touch, but he'd been straight for several years and was about to marry last time we talked.

32 posted on 03/21/2008 6:18:51 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: Dianna
Well, if people with colds were making demands for funding and attempting to hold the rest of us morally responsible for them being sick, I would tell them to wash their hands better.

What about people with heart disease? Lung cancer? Have you any idea what the government spends each year on other preventable diseases? How much money could taxpayers save on cardiac research funding if people just exercised right and ate healthy diets?

So again, I repeat my question: Why do posters on FR treat HIV/AIDS differently?

33 posted on 03/21/2008 6:19:57 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: 50sDad

While we haven’t totally done away with polio, I believe that the vaccine has done wonders to stop it in Western civilization.


34 posted on 03/21/2008 6:22:08 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Alter Kaker

OH my,

Comparing a cold with AIDS?

I wash my hands and face, I use alcohol swipes on grocery carts and carry something to wipe my hands. I STILL get a cold once in a while.

I have NO Worries at getting AIDS. ahhhh by not washing my hands.

-00-


35 posted on 03/21/2008 6:22:20 AM PDT by ConfidentConservative
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To: Alter Kaker
Yet the only threads in which the victims of a disease are regularly blamed are HIV/AIDS threads.

*Victims* my.... er... foot.

They should be blamed for HIV/AIDS. They brought it on themselves. It didn't just happen to them.

It's not the fault of the person who did it to themselves, it's the fault the government for not spending more money on research, it's the fault of the scientists for not trying hard enough, it's the fault of ____________ (fill in the blank)

Typical liberal victim mentality at work.

36 posted on 03/21/2008 6:22:39 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Duh. The best prevention is to avoid non-natural sex and to not take drugs with needles.
Why is that so hard for liberals to understand?


37 posted on 03/21/2008 6:24:22 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Dianna; Alter Kaker

The problem with colds and other viruses is that you are usually most contagious the day before you show symptoms, and the first day or so when you really don’t know you’re sick.

Once you’re really into it with the symptoms, the virus is inactive in your body and you’re just dealing with the effects of the toxins-the symptoms. It’s that that Robitussin in dealing with.


38 posted on 03/21/2008 6:26:03 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Well - I don’t know that I’ve castigated anyone. So far you are making the same point I made. HIV/AIDS can be prevented by self-control. And then I made some points you seem to agree with (many diseases are preventable with a little prevention). I’m glad we agree.


39 posted on 03/21/2008 6:27:42 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: metmom

How much good could have $500 million have done elsewhere?

This is despicable because there is a God given solution to prevent to spread of aids. Obey just one of the ten commandments.


40 posted on 03/21/2008 6:27:45 AM PDT by George from New England (really from Tampa Bay)
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