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HALPERIN’S TAKE: Painful Things Hillary Clinton Knows — Or Should Know
Time ^ | March 23, 2008 | Mark Halperin

Posted on 03/23/2008 1:58:44 AM PDT by cdchik123

1. She can’t win the nomination without overturning the will of the elected delegates, which will alienate many Democrats.

2. She can’t win the nomination without a bloody convention battle — after which, even if she won, history and many Democrats would cast her as a villain.

3. Catching up in the popular vote is not out of the question — but without re-votes in Florida and Michigan it will be almost as impossible as catching up in elected delegates.

4. Nancy Pelosi and other leading members of Congress don’t think she can win and want her to give up. Same with superdelegate-to-the-stars Donna Brazile.

5. Obama’s skilled, close-knit staff can do things like silently kill re-votes in Florida and Michigan and not pay a political price.

6. Many of her supporters — and even some of her staffers — would be relieved (and even delighted) if she quit the race; none of his supporters or staff feel that way. Some think she just might throw in the towel in June if it appears efforts to fight on would hurt Obama’s general election chances.

7. The Rev. Wright story notwithstanding, the media still wants Obama to be the nominee — and that has an impact every day.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; blood; civilwar; demcivilwar; halperin; hillary; obama
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To: newfreep
Was halperin the MSM’er who spoke about the 15 points the media provides?

That was Evan Thomas... but Halperin's saying the same sh•t.

Funny how after the loss of Iowa... the DBM immediately called for Romney to bow out.

21 posted on 03/23/2008 4:45:41 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: GVnana

Re: The Democrats deciding not to revote - yes, Hillary got skunked, but so did the Florida and Michigan democratic voters.

Either way, both candidates lose on this one. What sort of party would do this to two of the larger state delgations to the convention? What were they thinking of?


22 posted on 03/23/2008 4:48:22 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: cdchik123

The Stalinist hillary is diabocal and lusts for power. She will not take one for the party and fall on her sword. She doesn’t care about the party. We’ll see blood on the streets during and after the convention.

My prediction is that she’ll be the most hated woman in American history by Sept. 1, 2008, and things will go downhill from there. And should the leftist media back her and attack Mr. McCain’s military record, the blowback will reach huuricane force and demolish the old Marxist media.

People are not happy right now.

I wish we had a better candidate.


23 posted on 03/23/2008 4:49:29 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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To: cdchik123
Hussein can not win in the GE in November. The DNC knows this and wants to resolve the uncivil civil war before the convention. The DNC wants the WH in 2008 like never before. If they think their candidate of the day will not win, they will throw that candidate under the bus and go with plan B. Operation chaos has derailed their presidential party strategy.

The Clintons are not done with their attempts to unmask the "msm's chosen one". This for them is political survival. There is no 2012 if they are defeated in 2008. The reverend Wright incident was a body punch. The knockout punch has yet to be delivered and it is coming....

24 posted on 03/23/2008 4:51:28 AM PDT by The Forgotten Man (He works, he votes, generally he prays--but he always pays....)
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To: The Forgotten Man

I don’t know where the “experts” get their calcuations from regarding the popular vote. Example, if 2 million Dems vote in PA and Hillary wins 2-1, she has there alone made up the 700,000 vote deficit against Mr. Wright’s parishioner.


25 posted on 03/23/2008 4:55:38 AM PDT by laconic (ence)
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To: Caipirabob
You know, why do I get this feeling that McCain is going to pick a "nob nibbler" like Charlie Crist or someone else completely unacceptable? He's done everything else he can to prove he's a rat.

I've said it before...and I'll say it again. It would NOT surprise me in the least...if McCain picked Hillary as his V.P.

26 posted on 03/23/2008 4:56:58 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.................)
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To: randita
I agree. She still talks as if she will win the nomination. The Clintons are not used to losing and they will fight it to their last breath. If she fails to get the nomination, they want to make sure that Obama does not win the election so that he will be the incumbent in 2012.

I don't believe that we have heard the last of the Rev. Wright saga. Believe it or not, there are many people that have not even heard about him because they will not really pay attention to the presidential race until after the conventions and the nominees are settled. There are not enough blacks in the South to overcome the unwillingness of some conservative Democrats to (1) vote for a black man and (2) vote for someone who listened to such a racist, hate-filled minister for 20 years.

BTW, there are some conservative commentators who think that Rev. Wright himself is trying to sabotage Obama in order to validate his belief that a black man would not have a chance to be elected POTUS because of America is a racist country dedicated to keeping uppity blacks in their place. Obama's attempt to win the nomination without having Rev. Wright and his vile rhetoric in the forefront can not be making him happy!
27 posted on 03/23/2008 4:58:50 AM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: cdchik123

I thought Halperin was one of those drugs that had been recalled!:)


28 posted on 03/23/2008 5:05:48 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: cdchik123

I remember seeing the films of our POW’s who gave in to the Hanoi Commies way back when that war was still on. And McCain was one of them. ABC, CBS and NBC have copies of his films and his radio broadcasts. Even though McCain has managed to get a law passed to censure them there is no doubt that they will make their way to the internet next October.


29 posted on 03/23/2008 5:07:26 AM PDT by fella (Is he al-taquiya or is he murtadd? Only his iman knows for sure.)
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To: cdchik123
"Bill Richardson did what?"



30 posted on 03/23/2008 5:09:54 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: vietvet67

Substitute Huma for Bubba.


31 posted on 03/23/2008 5:14:06 AM PDT by csvset
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To: cdchik123
You are not kidding with that picture!

She isn't going to quit. She will use every twist and turn to get the nomination, even if it destroys the DemocRAT party for the next hundred years.

The Dems are going to witness a Riefenstahl "Triumph of the Will" moment at their convention.

32 posted on 03/23/2008 5:16:45 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: vietvet67

GREAT picture that tells the whole psychology of those two.


33 posted on 03/23/2008 5:48:34 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: Gumdrop
....What sort of party would do this to two of the larger state delgations to the convention? What were they thinking of?

A party that thought it was just a formality that they had to wait until the Convention to crown the bit@h.

34 posted on 03/23/2008 5:59:43 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: vietvet67

“I got him stuffed out doin’ Pork lines from the coffee table now.....when he falls asleep I’m gonna give him a colostomy with this beer bottle....that’ll fix his philanderin’ a$$......”


35 posted on 03/23/2008 6:02:08 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: cdchik123
3. Catching up in the popular vote is not out of the question — but without re-votes in Florida and Michigan it will be almost as impossible as catching up in elected delegates.

She'll hang her hat on creating poll numbers that show that if these two were included, she would be ahead. (actually better for her to have them hanging, than have actual new primaries). She will then run on a platform of disenfranchisement, and claim she is the real leader when are the votes are actually counted.

36 posted on 03/23/2008 6:04:33 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: laconic

Hillary won’t win 2 to 1. She has only topped 60% once [Arkansas].


37 posted on 03/23/2008 6:09:09 AM PDT by kabar
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To: The Forgotten Man
"...the haughty John Kerry, who served in Vietnam, in 2004...."

ummm..........Links???

38 posted on 03/23/2008 6:12:18 AM PDT by musicman
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To: Malesherbes

“Hillary’s Plan B: assure BO’s defeat in November and run against McCain in 2012.”
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I think she would almost certainly try to ensure Obama’s defeat but her chances of being nominated in 2012 are vanishingly small.


39 posted on 03/23/2008 6:14:18 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: sergeantdave

“People are not happy right now.”
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They dang shore ain’t! Down at the sawmill they are spittin’ on the ground and lookin’ for Loisville Slugger size pieces of hardwood and mutterin’ somethin’ about Buford.


40 posted on 03/23/2008 6:22:08 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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