If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain (Obama is doomed)

Gallup ^ | March 26, 2008 | Frank Newport

[Jaycal33]

PRINCETON, NJ -- A sizable proportion of Democrats would vote for John McCain next November if he is matched against the candidate they do not support for the Democratic nomination. This is particularly true for Hillary Clinton supporters, more than a quarter of whom currently say they would vote for McCain if Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee.

[Jaycal33]

It gets worse and worse for Obama. It is starting to appear that putting money on McCain seems a good investment on Intrade, where currently he is given only 40%. That means a $1 investment would return $2.50 if McCain won.

[cripplecreek]

So a sizable number of socialists and marxists are willing to vote for McQueeg. That’s something to be proud of. LOL

[blackdog]

So say’s Hillary.

[LowTaxesEqualProsperity]

Obama is to the left of Ted Kennedy and has surrounded himself with lunatic racists and anti-Semites. There’s no way he should ever be elected.

[jpl]

I've noticed that Rasmussen already has McCain ahead of both Hillary and Obama in general election polls.

This has got to be major cause for concern for the Democrat party, because at this point the Democrat is almost ALWAYS leading the Republican in the general polls.

[fantom]

No matter . Without Hillary the turn out will be dismal . Thats best for us , we need the house , no more kings. All of these candidates are weak , none will have a mandate . Whats the choice , a fossil who has an open border fetish or a surrender guy . Some choice.

[garyhope]

“Obama is doomed.”

I’ve known this for quite a while.

It’s amazing that the Dims can’t or won’t figure this out.

They’re going to lose 3 general elections in a row. They deserve it.

Bore, Carry, Obomba. What a bunch of doofuses.

They just don’t get it. Big happy grin on my face.

[muawiyah]

Yeah, it’s still March ~ don’t the Pollsters usually always have the Democrat ahead of the Republican by 10% or more.

[DM1]

“So a sizable number of socialists and marxists are willing to vote for McQueeg. That’s something to be proud of. LOL”

well it worked for Reagan, Bush Sr, Nixon and W. Bush.
These are more the Reagan Democrats or Silent Majority type of Dems not the complete lunatics (at least that is what i am surmising since Bama and Hill are two sides of the same coin.

[jveritas]

Excellent, which proves the point that Obama is the weaker democrat candidate in the general elections and hence it is best that he is the nominee.

[cripplecreek]

well it worked for Reagan, Bush Sr, Nixon and W. Bush.

So that's the new lie is it? I hate to tell you this little lady but the Clinton democrats ARE NOT the Reagan democrats.

[TruthWillWin]

This news brought to you courtesy of the Clinton campaign?

[jveritas]

Rush Zibo to the rescue of the democrats by working very hard to take the weaker candidate out Obama and have a stronger candidate Hillary Clinton to face McCain in the general elections.

[HawaiianGecko]

This is the same problem the Republicans have, or had.  Remember how many said that if McCain got the nomination they would vote for Hillary instead?  I believe Ann Coulter is one of them now that I think back a few weeks.  Of course today you don't hear much from that crowd and I highly suspect the same thing will happen in the Democratic camp over time.

It's the childish if I can't have it my way, I'll take my ball and go home syndrome.  They are ranting their displeasure in the hopes that momma will kiss it and make it feel good, but in the long run they'll come around. 

I personally expect a hard fought battle this November and we will be lucky (I think) to hold onto the executive branch.

[AmericaUnited]

Where are all the blubbering whiners who swore that the GOP would lose in a landslide and they would be laughing? Where are you all? All I hear are crickets chirping...

Rule #1: Never, ever let what you want or wish for, confuse the gray matter with the reality of what is. It is called DELUSION.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Yes, but what percentage of GOP voters are NOT voting for McCain?

[HawaiianGecko]

"because at this point the Democrat is almost ALWAYS leading the Republican in the general polls."

That's a very good point.  Historical facts are not things to be scoffed at.

[Little Ray]

A Democrat IS leading in the polls.

That “R” after McQueeg’s name doesn’t mean much...

[Bushwacker777]

“Yes, but what percentage of GOP voters are NOT voting for McCain?”

Not sure, but if I see some guy driving a truck with an NRA sticker but wearig a tin foil hat I’ll let you know.

[Junior_G]

This is what the dems say now, but it won’t come to pass. It’s much like conservatives that swear they won’t vote for McCain, but will hold their nose and vote for him anyway.

[uncbob]

This will only encourage McCain to head leftward

[Riverman94610]

Maybe Rush needs to radically retool Operation Chaos.If he continues on the pro-Hillary strategy,he will get exactly what he SAYS he doesn’t want,the Clintons back in power for the next eight years.

[O Neill]

Since we're still in the hypothetical stage, I'd like to see Gallup run a poll on this matchup...

Democrats: Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton

Republicans: John McCain/Condi Rice

Just curious...

[Imperial Warrior]

My main problem with a McCain victory arising from Hillary Democrats voting for him to oppose Obama is that McCain will take this as both a sign and a validation that his collaboration with the political enemy and his constant betrayal of conservatives and fellow Republicans was not only right but justifiable. Given that premise and McCain’s pronounced proclivity to betray and undercut his own, I’m not sure a McCain Presidency will be better than having an extremist left-wing nutcase win and throw the political equation into turmoil, filling conservatives, libertarians, and non-leftist independents with a burning resolve to counter this plunge into the far left abyss with a bonafide conservative Congress and Senate. Only if McCain demonstrated some modicum of assurance to conservatives that he would finally and for once seriously consider them in his political ideology would I be willing to fully get behind his candidacy as a means of reversing the suicidally disasterous course of kook fringe liberalism much of which he seems all too willing to embrace. To date, McCain has done nothing to assure conservatives that he will address their’s and the Republican base’s worries and concerns.

[AzSteven]

Yes, but what percentage of GOP voters are NOT voting for McCain?

Definitely going to be some like that - even a 5 percent share lost could be bad for Johnny Mac.

I honestly think McCain will win, as he has good cross-over appeal that nether Obama or Hillary have (note - this result does not thrill me). My fear is that conservatives who opt to not vote for McCain might not show up to vote for anyone; that gives us a McCain presidency with a strongly Dem Congress for him to 'collaborate with'.

Even if you can't force yourself to vote for McCain, remember to vote for a better Congress than that pack of jackals we have now!

[Always Right]

Yeah, it’s still March ~ don’t the Pollsters usually always have the Democrat ahead of the Republican by 10% or more.

Who is the Republican?

[Always Right]

Yes, but what percentage of GOP voters are NOT voting for McCain?

Somewhere between 5-10%. Probably 2 to 3 times that in Freeperland.

[Fishrrman]

“This is what the dems say now, but it won’t come to pass. It’s much like conservatives that swear they won’t vote for McCain, but will hold their nose and vote for him anyway.”

But it’s important that - RIGHT NOW - the dem bigwigs and the superdelegates get this message: that [right now] Obama is looking worse and worse for the general election. And, conversely, Hillary looks to be the only “electable alternative”.

We keep seeing claims that Hillary cannot overtake Obama in either [primary-] elected delegates nor in the popular vote. Yet we also see consistent and reliable reports of Obama’s sinking popularity among the general electorate.

This can do nothing but bolster the Clinton Camp’s resolve to keep fighting on towards the democratic convention in Denver. No dropping out for them.

Keep the pot boiling right until the convention opens. Then let things EXPLODE on the floor, right in front of the tv cameras. Rioting moonbats on the streets won’t help their cause, either.

The “whole world will be watching”.
That’s good.
For US.

- John

[Fishrrman]

“Given that premise and McCain’s pronounced proclivity to betray and undercut his own, I’m not sure a McCain Presidency will be better than having an extremist left-wing nutcase win”

Nonsense.

I don’t care for Mr. McCain any more than you do. But I daresay (and mark my words) that a four-year McCain presidency may actually end up being more “conservative” than has been the full eight years of G.W. Bush (and I voted for him both times).

I do not care to think about the next four to eight years under either Clinton or Obama (if we lasted that long with the latter)!

- John

[Retired Greyhound]

this is not a surprise.

Al Gore has a better chance of being POTUS than Obama.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

I’ll be at the polls, but I’m not voting for either the Republican or the Democrat nominee. I’m waiting to see who the Constitution Party offers. I may just leave the Prez slot blank. I have no interest in a McCain GOP.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

What will matter is where the weaknesses lie. McCain is weak in traditionally Republican states and strong in blue states. He will likely lose in some red states. It is just going to happen. Especially if Obama is the Dem nominee because he has been strong in the south. The question is, can McCain make up for that by winning enough blue? It is possible, but anyone who thinks this is going to be a normal year is crazy. There is no predicting the outcome. For a brief while it was predicable that the Dems would win, but their divisions are growing deeper so....who knows? All I know is, we are in trouble no matter who wins. All bad!!!! I want no part in helping any of these three stooges.

[Jaycal33]

“This news brought to you courtesy of the Clinton campaign?”

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Actually, it is from Gallup, which probably is the best polling service out there.

[nightmarewhileawake]

Don’t ever underestimate the Reagan Democrats, they can and will rise again. This doesn’t mean Reagan Dem’s are racist just because they see thru this load of bunk that Obama is peddling.

[Jaycal33]

This is what the dems say now, but it won’t come to pass. It’s much like conservatives that swear they won’t vote for McCain, but will hold their nose and vote for him anyway.

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You have a point there. But if the Dem nomination battle continues till the convention, there will be less time for them to forget and forgive the other candidate.

[curmudgeonII]

Get a grip on yourself. There's still 7+ months to go before the election. Plenty of time for all sorts of things to happen.

We don't even have the nominees yet.

[Puzzler]

This poll result will probably cause the dem party bigs to see the inevitability of a brokered convention in a whole new light. I think that now they will welcome the chance to give the nomination to a "savior". I wonder how McCain polls against Al Gore.

[hdbc]

I agree with you 100%. McCain is not my first choice by a long shot, but the thought of either of the two Rat candidates POTUS should be enough to scare anyone to death. I don’t see how this country will be recognizable in 4, or God forbid, 8 years, with a Rat President and congress and some new ACLU Supreme court justices thrown in.

[El Gran Salseron]

“and we will be lucky (I think) to hold onto the executive branch.”

Who is “we” and who is the candidate who will “hold onto the executive branch” for “we”?

In case you haven’t noticed, all three candidates are socialists.

[mulligan]

But how about us Pub’s? We do not get a whole lot better with McCain. His speech today at some World conference was just an outright surrender to the world.

[El Gran Salseron]

“It’s much like conservatives that swear they won’t vote for McCain, but will hold their nose and vote for him anyway.”

Here’s one conservative who will never vote for a socialist such as McCain. Write-in capabilities are wonderful, aren’t they?

[proudpapa]

What if Hillary runs third party???

[Mariner]

6,667 polled.

That's one HECK of a poll.

[Norman Bates]

The McCain List.

Interesting. 28% of Hillary supporters vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee, and 19% of Obama supporters do likewise if Hillary is the nominee.

[muawiyah]

Ol' what's-his-name, short guy, gray hair, funny bump on his neck.

He says he's a Republican anyway.

[okie01]

well it worked for Reagan, Bush Sr, Nixon and W. Bush.

These are more the Reagan Democrats or Silent Majority type of Dems not the complete lunatics...

Except those Democrats who would vote for McCain over Obama aren't necessarily going to be the Reagan Democrat or Silent Majority type.

More likely, it will be the flat-out racist liberal (the only kind) who a.) hates blacks and b.) likes what McCain is selling.

All of which means, of course, that the Republican candidate wins. Probably handily. But for all the wrong reasons...

[jveritas]

He wants the Clintons back in the White House. He hates McCain and he wants him defeated at any cost.

[garyhope]

I know. It’s not perfection being a Pub either. It’s distressing that the USA can’t come up with better leaders or candidates for President. It’s a thankless job and requires way too much politicing and campaigning for way too long a time with too much phony baloney and repitition and money.

And noboby has the guts to stand up and just say that Islam is at war with America, Israel, the Jews and Western civilization. Islam and the left are the major source of all the crap, death and problems in the world.

[Salvation]

Republican in the WhiteHouse in 2008 bump!

[Grunthor]

“He hates McCain and he wants him defeated at any cost.”

He’s not alone.