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Real-Life Drama Fuels 'Stop-Loss' Director
ClickonDetroit ^ | Marsch 26, 2008 | Tim Lammers

Posted on 03/27/2008 4:42:47 AM PDT by ShadowDancer

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1 posted on 03/27/2008 4:42:48 AM PDT by ShadowDancer
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I bet this movie will make at least $16.50, there by beating all the other antiwar crap hollyweird puts forth.


2 posted on 03/27/2008 4:45:08 AM PDT by TexasMatty (Sriracha, It's not just for breakfast!)
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giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Everybody involved in making this film should be arrested and all copies confiscated and destroyed.


3 posted on 03/27/2008 4:47:57 AM PDT by balch3
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Have you seen the commericals for this film? Apparently, and I am not making this up, a lot of people see them and think it’s some sort of gay soldier romance movie, sort of “Brokeback Military.”


4 posted on 03/27/2008 4:51:22 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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Explain how this film gives aid and comfort to the enemy, and on what grounds everyone involved in making this film should be arrested.

I'm not being an ass, just wondering what you are seeing that I don't.

5 posted on 03/27/2008 4:58:46 AM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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Was waiting for a thread on this movie. Sounds like another Hollywood bomb. Sad because they could made good movies about the troops or the war that people would line up to see. The list is endless but they used be able to make good films all day long. Pickings are scarce these days. “We Were Soldiers” is the last one I can think of.


6 posted on 03/27/2008 4:59:06 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: balch3

Have you seen the film?


7 posted on 03/27/2008 5:03:17 AM PDT by militem (Jim Forsythe for Congress 2008 (www.jimforsythe.com))
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I saw the trailers at the last movie I went to (10,000 B.C.).

The subject of “I wanna get out but they won’t let me” just will not get me to spend $9 per ticket and $13.25 for the popcorn special.


8 posted on 03/27/2008 5:24:29 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: Buffalo Bob
"Explain how this film gives aid and comfort to the enemy...


There are several ways to win a war. One method is to out fight and destroy the enemy. The other is to undermine the morale of the enemy and the civilian support for the war effort.

Viet Nam was won on the battlefield, but lost on the homefront because of the lies the media was feeding the people.

This movie is nothing more then propaganda designed to sap the morale of the people in the home front.

I will not go so far as to say that the people involved should be arrested or that the film not be shown, only that people should understand it for what it is.

One difference between now and Viet Nam is we could pull out of Viet Nam and only the Vietnamese would pay the price. If we disengage with the enemy now it will only make them stronger. We either fight them now, over there, or we will one day fight them here.

9 posted on 03/27/2008 5:28:50 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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Well said.


10 posted on 03/27/2008 5:41:14 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Buffalo Bob

Probably seeing only what he wants to see.


11 posted on 03/27/2008 5:43:00 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: balch3
Everybody involved in making this film should be arrested and all copies confiscated and destroyed...

DING! DING! DING!

It's the FREE-TARD quote of the day!

12 posted on 03/27/2008 5:43:38 AM PDT by martin gibson ("I care not what course others may take, but as for myself, give me Ralph Stanley or give me death")
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BS! It’s not a freakin “loophole”! It’s one of the conditions of the contract.

Anti-American @sswipe!


13 posted on 03/27/2008 5:44:35 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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How was 10,000 BC?


14 posted on 03/27/2008 5:46:39 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: balch3
giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Everybody involved in making this film should be arrested and all copies confiscated and destroyed.

Sing it with me Comrade:

Союз нерушимый республик свободных
Сплотила навеки Великая Русь.
Да здравствует созданный волей народов
Единый, могучий Советский Союз!

15 posted on 03/27/2008 5:47:00 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("That others may live.")
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To: Buffalo Bob
I'm not being an ass, just wondering what you are seeing that I don't.

Yeah, I'd like to know the answer, too.

16 posted on 03/27/2008 5:52:58 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Lee'sGhost

OK as a popcorn cruncher.

For any people looking for a Historical Movie - that was not it.

But for me and the teenagers, we had a good time and the popcorn was buttery.


17 posted on 03/27/2008 5:53:08 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Yeah this redefinition of contractual obligations piss me off.


18 posted on 03/27/2008 6:07:37 AM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Good information, and thanks for taking the time. I agree with the points you make, except one:

This movie is nothing more then propaganda designed to sap the morale of the people in the home front.

Is that really a fair statement, based upon fact? I haven't seen this movie so I cannot really comment on its content, perhaps you have. From the reviews I have read, and including this article, it appears as though the movie is respectful towards our soldiers and their mission. The movie does examine the so-called stop-loss portion of a military contract and its effect on soldiers and their familes.

If it is doing so in a factual and honest manner, I don't see how that is propaganda. In that case I would not agree that the film is designed to sap the morale of the people in the home front.

IMO much of what comes out of Hollywood is propaganda and designed to pollute the culture. But there are films that come along once in a while that tell a story that's worth telling. It just might be that this is one of those.

I served in the Marines and am a Patriot. All of our freedoms and rights are important to me, including freedom of speech. I challenge folks (not meaning you) who talk about arresting people for making a film and destroying all copies.

19 posted on 03/27/2008 6:40:02 AM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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If it is doing so in a factual and honest manner, I don't see how that is propaganda. In that case I would not agree that the film is designed to sap the morale of the people in the home front


Propaganda can be 100% true, and remain propaganda. Up until recent history, our nation leaders knew this. Which is why there was limited censorship during previous conflicts. I assume you would not be surprised to know that a lot of information about previous wars were witheld from the public until after the conflict was resolved.

It is difficult under the best of circumstances to remain resolve in the face of hardship. War is a cruel and bloody business. People die, people are wounded, people are traumatized by war. Propaganda uses this to make emotional arguments that are designed to weaken the resovle of the civilian population.

There is a time and place for this type of movie. The time is after the war, not during.

Our culture, our way of life is under attack from both outside and inside. Where are the movies that support our efforts in this war? Only half the story is being told.

M*A*S*H (the movie, and the TV program) came out during the Viet Nam war. It had one message, war is hell and we can not win. I do not know how many young minds were influenced by the Movie or the TV show, but advertisers spend billions of dollars each year to convince us to buy their product so is it so far off to assume some were convince war is never the right solution.

What I am saying is that we live in a Republic and it is within the power of the people to surrender (via their elected represenitives) to an enemy, I just want to make sure the people understand the consequences of surrender.

Hollywood, the main stream media, our culture in total is only telling us the bad things about war and none of the good.

The good you may ask is that we remain alive and free.

20 posted on 03/27/2008 7:29:27 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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