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Should old die for sake of young?
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Posted on 03/27/2008 4:39:54 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: aliquando
What about TONY BENNETT? Can people buy their way out? If you can’t pay, you’re a goner?
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posted on
03/28/2008 3:18:34 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
To: Hildy; wagglebee; Mrs. Don-o
But if the government isnt involved in it, meaning some kind of public policy...and if it is a responsibility of the family, dont you think youll see many more older people not getting the care they need because of the cost? I mean if it is a decision to be made by the family only. Honestly, $31,000 a year is alot of money to most people. I want to be clear, I believe it should be a family decision, but with that comes some very touchy issues....any way you look at it, its going to be a mess. That we can agree on...correct?
Hildy you are correct about the government not being involved and the responsibility being upon the family, and that $31,000 is a lot of money to most people.
any way you look at it, its going to be a mess. That we can agree on...correct?
Absolutely!!!!
What it seems we have is people on a conservative forum being upset when the realities of life (conservatism) come into conflict with our feeeeelings (liberalism).
The reality is bad things happen all the time. That cannot be avoided. But there are people out there who expect a magic wand to remove all hurt and tribulation from everyone, and we all live in a wonderful Utopia (these people are called liberals). They don't live in the REAL world.
People throw terms like government and society around like the words are magic. Government can't give you anything they haven't taken away from you (or someone else) in the first place. Government is nothing more than the figurehead for society. Society is nothing more than you, me, wagglebee, and everybody else.
Something bad happening in my family is MY RESPONSIBILITY. If I expect government/society to rescue me, I'm claiming a right or entitlement I haven't earned and shirking my responsibility. (Again liberal mindset). I'm expecting someone else to be responsible for my life. What right or entitlement or claim, do I have on someone else's life or labor? Also what entitlement or claim do they have upon me?
Life can be harsh. Sometimes its sweet. Neither is guaranteed or warranted.
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posted on
03/28/2008 3:19:01 PM PDT
by
mountn man
(The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
To: Hildy
Firing squads, starvation, dehydration, lethal injection.
Pick your poison, Hildy. Mass killings would end up costing more than keeping people healthy. It's called preventative medicine.
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posted on
03/28/2008 3:20:52 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
To: 8mmMauser
BARACK OBAMA FOUND A CATHOLIC TO ENDORSE HIM. That Catholic must be a phony Catholic cuz OBAMA is pro-abort all the way and pro-euthanasia. He regretted VOTING TO SAVE TERRI SCHIAVO BK IN MAC OF 2005. Regretted a vote for an innocent person subjected to a barbaric, heinous murder, state sponsored, judicial tyranny with fingerprints of the ACLU and the RINOS all over the crime scene.
www.judgegeorgegreer.com
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posted on
03/28/2008 3:23:28 PM PDT
by
floriduh voter
(FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
To: Mr. Silverback
Im a “she” and go shop till you drop. :-)
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posted on
03/28/2008 3:56:24 PM PDT
by
Mears
To: Mears
Sure, can’t wait to start shopping, just freepmail me those credit card numbers, and remember, no complaining about the bills. :-)
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posted on
03/28/2008 3:57:36 PM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
To: chessplayer
We will have the same situation here soon.
Sad thing is, the young have learned to hate life from their elders.
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posted on
03/28/2008 4:03:29 PM PDT
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: redgolum
Nah, this generation coming up is hugely pro-life. Ultrasound is doing the enemy in.
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posted on
03/28/2008 4:09:37 PM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
To: Mr. Silverback
Depends.
My wife teaches in a large High School. Lets just say not every one cares.
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posted on
03/28/2008 4:13:58 PM PDT
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: Hildy; mountn man; Mrs. Don-o; floriduh voter; 8mmMauser; Lesforlife; BykrBayb; bjs1779; ...
Okay then, in a place like the UK with socialized medicine, would you then advocate denying medical care and/or involuntary euthanasia for anyone who is not paying taxes? Should a person be “cut off” once the money they have contributed to the socialized medicine is exhausted?
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posted on
03/28/2008 4:36:59 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
I would happily return my inheritance to have my Dad back, but I can see not everyone feels the same about their parents. Some would rather have the money, than spend it on the parents who earned it. So sad.
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posted on
03/28/2008 4:46:01 PM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. Þ)
To: Hildy
> Honestly, $31,000 a year is alot of money to most people.
Honestly, Terri Schiavo had a lot more in her trust fund than that and you still wanted her dead.
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posted on
03/28/2008 4:52:17 PM PDT
by
bjs1779
To: bjs1779
A lot of the deathbots who want to kill Lauren have asked who is going to pay for it, since neither parent has brought up cost, we can only surmise that this is not an issue.
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posted on
03/28/2008 5:00:31 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: BykrBayb
And some would prefer to murder their spouses rather than spend the money that the court awarded for rehabilitation.
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posted on
03/28/2008 5:01:36 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: bjs1779
Honestly, Terri Schiavo had a lot more in her trust fund than that and you still wanted her dead.
DIRECT HIT!
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posted on
03/28/2008 5:05:55 PM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
To: bjs1779
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posted on
03/28/2008 5:11:39 PM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. Þ)
To: bjs1779
Can we get through a discussion without mentioning her name? THIS ISN’T ABOUT TERRI SCHIAVO. That was a complicated case and many people had many different opinions. But again, this isn’t about her. If you have nothing else to offer, please don’t respond.
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posted on
03/28/2008 5:13:07 PM PDT
by
Hildy
(Obama: "Yes, I sat in his church, but I didn't inhale.")
To: BykrBayb
I don't generally acknowledge that kind of stuff, but for you I will! Thanks.
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posted on
03/28/2008 5:15:38 PM PDT
by
bjs1779
To: Mr. Silverback; redgolum
Nah, this generation coming up is hugely pro-life. Ultrasound is doing the enemy in. I've talked to a lot of young people who are acutely aware how much of their generation has been slaughtered in abortuaries.
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posted on
03/28/2008 5:16:16 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: chessplayer
Remember Rush’s Undeniable Truth of Life (well one of them)...Our nation’s seasoned citizens is the most valuable yet untapped resources our young people have.
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posted on
03/28/2008 5:20:14 PM PDT
by
GOP_Raider
("Hope is the worst of evils, for it prolongs the torments of man" -Nietzsche)
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