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Getting Mrs. Clinton [Peggy Noonan]
The Wall Street Journal ^ | March 28, 2008 | PEGGY NOONAN

Posted on 03/27/2008 8:02:30 PM PDT by Aristotelian

I think we've reached a signal point in the campaign. This is the point where, with Hillary Clinton, either you get it or you don't. There's no dodging now. You either understand the problem with her candidacy, or you don't. You either understand who she is, or not. And if you don't, after 16 years of watching Clintonian dramas, you probably never will.

That's what the Bosnia story was about. Her fictions about dodging bullets on the tarmac -- and we have to hope they were lies, because if they weren't, if she thought what she was saying was true, we are in worse trouble than we thought -- either confirmed what you already knew (she lies as a matter of strategy, or, as William Safire said in 1996, by nature) or revealed in an unforgettable way (videotape! Smiling girl in pigtails offering flowers!) what you feared (that she lies more than is humanly usual, even politically usual).

But either you get it now or you never will. That's the importance of the Bosnia tape.

Many in the press get it, to their dismay, and it makes them uncomfortable, for it sours life to have a person whose character you feel you cannot admire play such a large daily role in your work. But I think it's fair to say of the establishment media at this point that it is well populated by people who feel such a lack of faith in Mrs. Clinton's words and ways that it amounts to an aversion. They are offended by how she and her staff operate. They try hard to be fair. They constantly have to police themselves.

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To: vlad335

“Anyone who thinks this country has a free press needs to have their head examined. It’s nothing more than Pravda for the DNC.”

We have a free press, even more so since the internet was invented (thanks, Al). What it isn’t is neutral, nor could it ever be so. That’s is what is so cloying about the press’s pretensions to even-handedness, even at Fox, the so-called “We report, you decide” network. It simply isn’t possible to be unbiased. Each person sees facts and presents facts through their personal template of experience and biases. I used to get absolutely livid hearing Walter Cronkite do his signature sign-off for years, “And that’s the way it is . . . “. I would be shouting in my mind, “No, that’s the way you and your cronies see it. It isn’t the way it is.”

The problem isn’t that the press is biased. It can’t help but be biased. It’s that it pretends to be unbiased and expects us to believe it. Then it works so hard to counter anything that challenges its biases primarily through censorship, especially of the internet and talk radio while also pretending to be the champion of the First Amendment.


41 posted on 03/27/2008 9:31:20 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Aristotelian
"The Clinton saga would be Shakespearean if it weren't so taudry."

Inviting Hillary for lunch with Polonius.

42 posted on 03/27/2008 9:45:14 PM PDT by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported)
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To: the invisib1e hand; tet68
You mean, if Shakespeare had lived in Appalachia?

She is Illinois and Arkansas trash. That is nowhere near Appalachia. If you're going to be a bigot, at least use appropriate stereotypes.

43 posted on 03/27/2008 9:47:03 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (Sadly, the grown-ups don't run the GOP.)
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To: Seaplaner
LOL

As a long time Noonan fan, I'm sorry to say that I was completely serious. In case you missed her recent public love note to the Obamessiah, you can read it here:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120604775960652829.html

Peggy seems to regard politics as a form of theater, and she is drawn to any politician who can put on a compelling performance. Obama's liberalism doesn't matter to her, nor his fraudulence, not his demagoguery, nor the vile company he keeps. He puts on a good show, and that's all Peggy cares about.

Reagan would have fired the current Peggy Noonan in a millisecond.

44 posted on 03/27/2008 10:05:13 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Admin Moderator
Um, that one paragraph excerpt in my post was a quote that Peggy Noonan lifted from someone named GI Joe on a forum somewhere. None of it was from the WSJ, they just repeated it.

Don't be too quick on the trigger.

45 posted on 03/27/2008 10:12:57 PM PDT by Defiant (McCain's big vein drains mainly from his brain.)
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To: Defiant

The quote was from a blog on politico.com.


46 posted on 03/27/2008 10:16:11 PM PDT by TChad
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To: TChad

My thoughts too. Her appearance in last week’s MTP was disgusting.


47 posted on 03/27/2008 10:30:26 PM PDT by indcons (A lie repeated 100 times becomes the truth - ChiCom pedophile Chairman Mao)
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To: TChad

Thanks. Too bad, I was hoping it was from a freeper.


48 posted on 03/27/2008 10:32:23 PM PDT by Defiant (McCain's big vein drains mainly from his brain.)
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To: fullchroma

Out Out! Damned Buddy.


49 posted on 03/27/2008 10:42:27 PM PDT by OeOeO
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To: Aristotelian

If this were a mere run at class president I wouldn’t mind so much. But this is for President of the United States. If there is a divine power, he’d/she’d better act soon to prevent this country’s destruction.


50 posted on 03/27/2008 10:56:00 PM PDT by budwiesest (Half of us don't want to be a part of 'us'. They want a new 'us'.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
You mean, if Shakespeare had lived in Appalachia?

Now don't be talking down those fine folks in Appalachia! x42 is from Arkansas!

51 posted on 03/27/2008 11:04:14 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: OeOeO
Out Out! Damned Buddy.

Actually, that damned spot caused Bill more trouble.

52 posted on 03/27/2008 11:11:49 PM PDT by TChad
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To: the invisib1e hand

I’d rather be and live in Appalachia any day before I’d choose say N.Y., L.A., or so many other blue areas that may be fun to visit but GOD knows are not condusive to real life.


53 posted on 03/28/2008 4:08:25 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: TChad
Peggy seems to regard politics as a form of theater

It's not?

54 posted on 03/28/2008 4:14:45 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I've got a home in Glory Land that outshines the sun)
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To: Aristotelian

We’re nearing a “jump the shark” moment for a lot of people involved in the process. The press (print and video) are torn between wanting this debacle to continue because it creates readers and viewers and wanting Clinton to just go away, because they’re getting weary of propping her up. They’re anxious to get on with the task of destroying McCain.

Democrat politicians are starting to see the negative influence the debacle is having on their own campaigns and, above all, Democrat politicians look out for number one.

Democrat supporters are getting sick of seeing the entrails of their party dragged out each and every day and deciding it’s just nicer and cleaner to support McCain.

“Go away, Hillary” is just a gentle murmuring at this point, but in the next few weeks (starting after PA), it’s going to rise to a thunderous clamor.

Is it too early in the morning to eat popcorn?


55 posted on 03/28/2008 5:17:42 AM PDT by randita (I'm a "typical white person" and I voted for Lynn Swann.)
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To: Aristotelian

This has been a good week for Ma Bill Clinton’s regular BOTOX therapy. Anybody got the before/afters?


56 posted on 03/28/2008 5:23:03 AM PDT by Broker (Grandpa Petti Bones wants to know.)
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To: Broker

I wonder how the ‘Bumble Bee Pants Suit’ is holding up...


57 posted on 03/28/2008 5:25:58 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: the invisib1e hand
"You mean, if Shakespeare had lived in Appalachia"

Hey, I live in Appalachia and Arkansas ain't no Appalachia!

58 posted on 03/28/2008 5:32:44 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: johnny7

When she retires to Westchester County, life will no longer be the same.


59 posted on 03/28/2008 8:03:57 AM PDT by Broker (Grandpa Petti Bones wants to know.)
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To: Roscoe Karns

How many reporters will have the guts to admit that they are either congenitally stupid and missed 16 years of Clinton dissembling that the Right was easily able to discern; or that they knew the Clintons were lying but covered it up for political and self-image reasons, rendering them unfit to practice their chosen occupation?


60 posted on 03/28/2008 10:59:53 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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