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Will McCain Be Given The Bob Dole Treatment?
Townhall.com ^ | March 28, 2008 | Matt Towery

Posted on 03/28/2008 6:03:00 AM PDT by Kaslin

As Hillary Clinton starts to fade away, or so it appears, John McCain faces both new obstacles and opportunities in his quest for the White House. The question is, will he be "helped" in the same way Bob Dole was in 1996?

Dole was one of the better nominees the GOP has put forth in modern times. He was (and is) bright, witty, conservative and independent.

Oops. Did I say independent? That was his problem.

The Republican establishment generally doesn't like independence. President George H.W. Bush could barely stand Newt Gingrich in Gingrich's pre-Speaker years as House GOP Whip. Gingrich was far too independent in his thinking and too "out there" in his style.

And, I must admit, Gingrich's decision to stare down Bill Clinton over the federal budget in 1995, leading to the so-called "shutdown" of government, drew negative reviews by the general public. Never mind that the reaction to the shutdown was mainly because the media grossly misportrayed it.

As Gingrich's popularity dropped, the Democrats very smartly decided to run TV ads in the late winter of 1996 that linked Bob Dole to Newt Gingrich. The ads were destroying Dole in the presidential race, but GOP leaders claimed there was no money available to counter the attacks.

Sure there wasn't. The truth is that Dole got a lot of halfhearted lip service from many establishment Republicans, who had no real desire to see him occupy the White House.

Why? Because they knew they couldn't control him. They also had another candidate in mind for the Oval Office; one who needed more time to earn credibility as one who could govern. His name was George W. Bush.

I witnessed firsthand the halfhearted effort to make Bob Dole little more than a token candidate in 1996. It was a complete shame. The man deserved better.

So now we come to John McCain. He's known to be a bit testy behind the scenes, but he's also very bright and witty, and has running through him a wide streak of independence.

Oops. Here we go again. It's that independence thing.

Looking over the events of the last month, a time in which John McCain has known he has the GOP nomination in hand, I've observed several things.

For one, there has been a push to bring "the big boys" into the McCain strategic camp. That always happens. The same old gang that has run things forever wants their team of strategists to be a "part of the team." And the outsider, McCain, feels grateful to have their support, so he gladly accepts the offer.

Sometimes that's good, most times it's not.

Here's an example of what I mean. Just this past week, in addressing the economic woes facing our nation, Sen. McCain praised the Fed's intervention to save the massive investment bank Bear Stearns. But in the same speech, he decried any effort to assist, in any real manner, those who are in dire straits over the drop in home values and the subsequent credit crunch. Now that sounds pretty conservative: Saying to people "you made your bed, now go lie in it."

But hold on. How can you be in favor of pumping many billions of dollars into a presumably sophisticated institution such as Bear Stearns, ignoring their bad judgment, but then say that there should be no government action to give relief to individuals and families who made similar bad decisions? These are families without the accountants, lawyers, analysts and highly paid business leaders that Bear Stearns had at its disposal.

No one is for big government bailouts. But once you start opening the cookie jar to help Wall Street firms, where people make great fortunes, how do you then stare into the eyes of a family facing foreclosure on their home and say "too bad"?

And by the way, most of the people hurting in this economy are folks who would otherwise be predisposed to vote for a Republican candidate.

Everyone knows that John McCain can take some pretty hard-line positions. Maybe this was meant to demonstrate his straight-talk intestinal fortitude.

But my guess is that some of those veteran GOP strategists know that McCain's position on foreclosures will make him more vulnerable in the Sunbelt and other "growth" states where the GOP base has grown.

I have to wonder if the Republican establishment is "helping" John McCain by staying quiet and allowing him to destroy his chances early on; whether it "helped" him develop this woeful new economic strategy for his campaign.

It's not a matter of sticking to "conservative guns" when you apply one set of liberal rules to large wealthy institutions but tell the suffering voters in essence that "you made your own mess. So eat a little less and find a warm shelter in which to ride this thing out." Policies like that will make Barack Obama president.

Hey, John: Give Bob Dole a call and ask him whom to trust. He's the most honest guy you will hear from in this election season.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; bobdole; mccain

1 posted on 03/28/2008 6:03:00 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I have trouble believing the words “Bob Dole” and “one of the better nominees” go together. Great guy, loyal servant of his state and country, but not a great presidential nominee.

}:-)4


2 posted on 03/28/2008 6:10:19 AM PDT by Moose4 (Hey GOP...don't move toward the middle. Move the middle toward us.)
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To: Kaslin

Dole was an aging, moderate Republican with a good wit.

McCain is an aging, leftist Republican with a fiery temper.

I supported Dole. I can not in good conscience support McCain.


3 posted on 03/28/2008 6:14:17 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Kaslin

Bob Dole, Conservative, independent and one of the better nominees? More like Conserved, in Depends, and one of the more bitter nominees....


4 posted on 03/28/2008 6:14:39 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: MBB1984
Early on, I made vows that I would never under any circumstance vote of Ace McCain. I have had to rethink my view.

I still despise John, but the alternative is just not acceptable. We are an active duty military family, and the thought of either one of the Dems as CIC sends chills down my back.

5 posted on 03/28/2008 6:22:22 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Kaslin
Dole was one of the better nominees the GOP has put forth in modern times.

Sure, if you wanted the Dems to win. Dole was a nice guy, but and ineffective candidate. In the political world fighting for the Presidence requires an energy and zeal beyond compare... and Dole's campaign was a tired sigh.

6 posted on 03/28/2008 6:27:00 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Kaslin
What "maverick" republicans invariably end up doing to their party's base:


7 posted on 03/28/2008 6:29:56 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: Kaslin

“Will McCain Be Given the Bob Dole Treatment?”

Short answer, YES.

In another attempt to gain support from the conservative Republican base, McCain stops Heath Shuler’s SAVE Act discharge petition to secure the borders and punish employers of illegal aliens. http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/20080326/NEWS/803260330

At least Bob Dole and his campaign staff were not in your face when he ran. McCain and his people are actually instigating this f%*$-’em treatment of conservatives.

If he acts this way now when he’s supposedly asking for votes, what kind of treatment do you think conservatives will get with him in power?

Work hard for the conservatives in the House and Senate to put a speed bump in the Democrat designs, but let’s get real about the third Democrat in the race, McCain.


8 posted on 03/28/2008 6:35:36 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: theDentist

Lamar Alexander was right when he said it was Dole’s “turn, but not his time.” Not that Alexander would have beaten Clinton anyway.

There is one silver lining to one of the Dems becoming president. If they screw up as badly as they are likely to, then the GOP could regain control of Congress. Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of them would be out of power again. But the damage a Demo president and Congress might do in 2 to 4 years could be incalculable.


9 posted on 03/28/2008 6:36:16 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Kaslin
We are so screwed this election...
10 posted on 03/28/2008 6:42:27 AM PDT by Bobalu (What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
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To: Kaslin

Dole was right when he said “Where’s the outrage” about the non-reporting of so many Clinton lies, evasions and even criminal fundraising.


11 posted on 03/28/2008 6:43:14 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Coldwater Creek
I probably am even more against McCain. McCain is a Soros leftist, but not as leftist as the other two. So, I can understand your thoughts on a strict “who is more conservative” level.

However, McCain would be the leader of the Republican party. He would mold the party in his image by installing leaders of the GOP at all levels of the party. Conservatives would be purged or reeducated. This would translate into few true conservative candidates. McCain would effectively move the party even further to the left.

We have already experienced this leftist move under Bush, the “compassionate conservative.” It would move dramatically further left under McCain. McCain can do what Obama and Clinton can not: destroy conservatives within the GOP and ensure what is effectively one party Marxist rule. Thus, McCain is by far the more dangerous candidate.

12 posted on 03/28/2008 6:47:12 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Kaslin

viagra jokes?
Nap time jokes?
old man vs young man jokes?

Obama girl vs McCain crones jokes?

That is a DBM absolutly YES!


13 posted on 03/28/2008 6:54:42 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Kaslin

Bob Dole was a dreadful nominee, and McCain is worse.


14 posted on 03/28/2008 7:05:24 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Kaslin
"Dole was one of the better nominees the GOP has put forth in modern times. He was (and is) bright, witty, conservative and independent."

The author must be a Beltway insider...no one else is that obtuse.

Dole was and is a patriot for his service, but his work on the 1968 Gun Control Act and his allowing the Dems to pass the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban hardly had his base lining up to help him in 1996.

Dole was the GOP candidate through seniority only. The Party said we owed him.

Such folly upon folly even cost the man his Senate seat, as well as his Presidential race.

15 posted on 03/28/2008 7:05:44 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Thorin

If McCain falls off a platform like Dole did, it won’t be good.


16 posted on 03/28/2008 7:12:30 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Kaslin

McCain is just another puppet of George Soros and the Council on Foreign Relations. There’s nothing independent about him.

Knifing conservatives does not make one an independent, it makes them a traitor.


18 posted on 03/28/2008 8:30:31 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (!)
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To: Kaslin

It’s not “independence thing” that’s the problem with McCain. (or Dole before him)

It’s the “liberal thing.”

Going off on your own in a liberal direction is not “independence.” It’s liberalism.

Liberal can hardly be described as lonely souls all by independent selves. They’re surrounded by an army of liberals in the media, politics, education, and bureaucracy.


19 posted on 03/28/2008 8:49:08 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins

Morrey Sheiffer was the assigned newsreporter for the Dole
campaign. Every night on the news, Sheiffer would go through the film footage of the day of Dole scorning and undermining every word Dole said with his own liberal opinions.


20 posted on 03/28/2008 12:05:35 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: Kaslin
McCain has to have the fire and determination to beat the Clinton family. Her and her feeding frenzic family are so frantically hungry and salivating for a third term of reckless, represhensible, dereliction of duty at the WH.

Hillary's nails and teeth are sharpened as she claws, exploits, and burns the path to the WH front door.

McCain appears as relaxed as Panama Joe while she is engaged in verbal sniper assaults against her rather laid-back opponent, cool as silk, BarackO.

As Hillary awaits anxiously in her leisure pantsuit for her first 3:00 a.m. phone call, either economic, from Bill needing some cab money to get home, or from overseas, probably Bill again saying he missed his flight due to unforeseen distrac, er ah, disturbances, we are all wondering if McCain has fire in his belly for this most prestigious gig.

Let's HOPE so. Say it's so, Johnny boy.

21 posted on 03/28/2008 12:17:53 PM PDT by harpo11 (Rush, had better have a back-up strategy just in case the third term grabbing Clintons win the WH.)
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To: Kaslin

“But hold on. How can you be in favor of pumping many billions of dollars into a presumably sophisticated institution such as Bear Stearns, ignoring their bad judgment, but then say that there should be no government action to give relief to individuals and families who made similar bad decisions?”

Damn, you got me on that one.


22 posted on 03/28/2008 4:13:50 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: Kaslin

“Will McCain Be Given The Bob Dole Treatment?”

Not by me. I respected Bob Dole.


23 posted on 03/28/2008 4:18:41 PM PDT by Grunthor (I promise in November to be just as loyal to the GOP as Juan McAmnesty has been)
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To: unkus

“If McCain falls off a platform like Dole did, it won’t be good.”

Won’t be good? How so?


24 posted on 03/28/2008 4:23:18 PM PDT by Grunthor (I promise in November to be just as loyal to the GOP as Juan McAmnesty has been)
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