8mm
Posted on 03/29/2008 10:31:00 AM PDT by wagglebee
I understand what you’re saying, Drew68, and maybe part of the problem of realistically discussing the situation is that there is some resistance to believing that intelligence is an inherited characteristic, just like blue eyes or perfect pitch. Those things cannot be taught and are not influenced by environment. For some reason to acknowledge a certain group, race, society, nation, etc, has a genetic inclination to sickle cell anemia or blonde hair is factual, but when you include IQ (perhaps because of eugenics in the past) people cry rascism or prejudice.
I'm not sure I agree. Do you think that a harpy will somehow become less unpleasant as she enters menopause?
I don't know if she thought she would try to force abortions and sterilizations on segments of the population she thought unworthy to procreate. I don't know whether she and her associates had a long-term plan in mind and were not able to fully implement it. I don't know if forces for good stopped any such plan if one existed. Perhaps the same principles and ethics that guided the founding of this country helped to derail any such plans but could not entirely eliminate the concept of abortion on demand, and only succeeded in eleminating the element of the selectiveness of forced abortion and sterility based on Eugenics.
‘For some reason to acknowledge a certain group, race, society, nation, etc, has a genetic inclination to sickle cell anemia or blonde hair is factual, but when you include IQ (perhaps because of eugenics in the past) people cry rascism or prejudice.”
The hierarchy of IQ is Ashkenazi Jews, Asians, Whites, Blacks and Aborigine. Nobody can deny this is genetic. When a society promotes the brightest child-bearing youths to have the most children, or perhaps encouraging the most successful men to have the most matings, you get higher IQ’s like Ashkenazi Jews. There is evidence that Tay-Sachs disease actually makes you smarter, so maybe that is why it is their special affliction.
You are not a racist when you say that America is practicing reverse eugenics. It is a fact. We make our intelligent working young people support the old and the deadbeats who procreate irresponsibly, in addition to the burden of raising children. No wonder educated young adults decide against having children. How can they afford it? You are simply stating that taxation influences human behavior.
If you are called a racist, you fall back on the hybrid vigor science improving IQ’s through international intercourse. It really is true that there are hundreds, if not thousands of inbred pockets in the history of the human race, with outcomes on a continuum from outright extinction to Ashkenazi Jews, mostly due to geographic isolation and who the culture promotes.
Personally, the whole idea of eugenics smacks of marxism. The idea that a central authority is going to decide what intelligence is and how best to go about increasing it in a population just makes me sick to my stomach. If government would just butt out and leave people alone, nature will take it's course. Let me put it this way...I prefer a FREE MARKET variety of eugenics...or what the darwinists refer to as survival of the fittest. We just need to quit paying the dregs to have babies. It's that simple.
Now, someone on this thread mentioned something about the least genetically fit of the population is reproducing at the fastest rate, so we are practicing reverse eugenics. This may be, but this is hardly a recent development. Ever since man built the first city, the less fit individuals have been enabled to survive and reproduce. And think about what a city is. It's basically a very intelligent tyrant controlling a mass of less intelligent slaves. A perfect democracy only occurs naturally in roaming hunter gatherer cultures where everyone is responsible for himself and the stupid ones can't survive. What I am saying is...it seems to me that a large population of dumb people is dangerous to the existence of democracy and freedom...but possibly necessary for the existence of cities...possibly a catch-22.
Oh, by the way, I have minor disputes with your hierarchy of IQ. First, you left out amerinds. Second, “asians” is not very well defined. You should replace “asians” with “northern white mongoloid”, IMO. And “whites” should be replaced with “caucasian and others not specifically mentioned”. But this is only insofar as we know how to define and measure intelligence. And I don't have much faith in our ability to do that.
The IQ tests are as simple as pressing a button the fastest after a light has been turned off or on. No language skills. Just synapse speed. Results fall right in line with traditional IQ test results according to race.
Eugenics smacks of Nazism, not Marxism. That is why we are forced to bend over to do the opposite. Today you can’t get close to an even competitive playing field or it is Nazism. There is certainly no risk of a big brother deciding who can have babies.
The successful young people must carry the load of paying off their student loans, supporting retired people and giving them free medicine, raising their children, and supporting parasites who multiply for gain. Not to mention paying private school tuition, while they pay for the parasites to go to public schools and get free lunches.
My partial solution would be to help young college graduates who marry. Maybe give them the down payment on their first home. Pay for prenatal care like we do for the parasites. Pay for fertility treatments, like we do for the parasites.
Lovely. More taxes and more dependency on the state. I don’t much care for your ideas.
Just trying to balance the playing field a bit in a way that would actually be an investment; paying off with more good citizens. There is nothing in my suggestion that would discourage the continued irresponsible breeding of the great unwashed.
There is nothing in my suggestion that would discourage the continued irresponsible breeding of the great unwashed, because any attempt to do so would be branded as “Nazism”. Personally, I find it shocking that welfare couples are eligible for free fertility treatments while couples pay $10,000. But I would be a Nazi to holler this should be stopped, so I’m hollering that good educated couples should have the same benefit. A far better investment in the future, IMHO.
Just trying to balance the playing field a bit in a way that would actually be an investment; paying off with more good citizens.
The full article is here.
Planned Barrenhood clinics and abortuaries are more often in poor and minority areas than affluent areas. More than a third of black babies are aborted and blacks have abortions at more than twice the rate of whites.
Thanks for the link, I had seen it before but I would never have been able to find it again.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.