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Obama HAS to Hate America or Lose 'Black Vote'
Publius' Forum ^ | 3/28/08 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 03/29/2008 12:29:26 PM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

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To: Maelstorm
The media would not be making excuses for him. He would’ve been Trent Lotted all the way out of the race.

A perfect example of the extent of hatred that resides on the left- and just how pervasive it is to include, of all things, the entire media complex.

But, I predict a change coming soon. Denver in August may spark it when Hillary steals the nomination- but so what, there are a lot of 'typical' Americans who are fed-up with these God D*mn America types who've been pampered and coddled way too long.

My only hope is that Sharpton and Jackson will be there to receive a few well-deserved baton blows while inhaling tear gas. When Hate America meets Love America, it ought to be interesting.

41 posted on 03/29/2008 4:50:18 PM PDT by budwiesest (What's with Billy Jeff's hair these days? CottonCandyHead.)
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To: Continental Soldier
Mrs. Clinton, like her husband before her, is in this ‘game’ for herself, for her personal gain, for all the trappings of political power that can swell her bank account.

There are two things I wouldn't want to be if Hillary gets elected: a cigar importer or a thong manufacturer.

42 posted on 03/29/2008 5:22:23 PM PDT by budwiesest (What's with Billy Jeff's hair these days? CottonCandyHead.)
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To: notbuyingit2

However he is at the same time alienating the rest of us and he can not win with liberals and blacks alone and in the end that is all he will have left. He is somewhat in a worse position than even Hillary. People are used to the Clinton’s telling lies and half truths. It is expected.


43 posted on 03/29/2008 6:10:18 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Heroism is something that when it is manifest it is undeniable. The same can be said for cowardice.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

I’m thinking it’s time to look for another country. This land will never get over its white guilt and, out of it, such high tolerance for idiocy and hatred, why even worship of the most vulgar elements of the underclass sub-culture. Get out of here or else go slumming with ebryboddy else!


44 posted on 03/29/2008 6:16:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("I am like...Dude......do you really....like want the Sex?")
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To: Yaelle

I’m certain that they would not. A southern black church would probably be open to it but never in a Northern enclave of liberal blacks like Chicago or Philly. I’ve attended Black Baptist churches and they are very open and accepting. I don’t think I’ve ever received more hugs to welcome me to a church as I did at one of the local churches I went to. I’m pretty certain that aside from one mixed couple that my family was the only white one there but to be fair most churches tend to align themselves ethnically. I don’t think it happens by plan but more by natural inclinations of people to find comfort in the company of people that resemble themselves.

The most diverse Church I ever attended was in LA but it was a church were you had to have a strong idealogical foundation and a desire for teaching so it didn’t just appeal to people based upon kiddie activities and social gatherings like so many churches (even the best intentioned) ones do. I still like to attend church there when I’m in town. I don’t feel socially assaulted there and pressured to break out into hallelujahs. I can find comfort and joy in believing in Christ without the trimming.

I still like my local Baptist church but there are a lot of things I just don’t need to believe that it offers and that is ok. Those things are there and are good for those who need them. Fellowship is something that is important but what is fellowship for me resides not just within the church walls. We all have our roles and that is something we all could learn a little better. Each and every one of us should be striving to be more Christ-like. Sadly too often once we join organized religion we find what we are striving for is to make others just like us.


45 posted on 03/29/2008 6:29:07 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Heroism is something that when it is manifest it is undeniable. The same can be said for cowardice.)
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To: cornbreadmuffin

Yes indeed. The difference is Lott was innocent and Imus was just an insensitive dolt like he always had been. There is one good thing that has come from the Rev. Wright fiasco and that the race police might do well to spend a little more time in black communities teaching their own (the way they seem to see it not I) about racial tolerance.


46 posted on 03/29/2008 6:32:46 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Heroism is something that when it is manifest it is undeniable. The same can be said for cowardice.)
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To: budwiesest

The best thing that could happen to the black community is if this would end their loyalty to the democratic party. That loyalty has did more to corrupt the dream of King and others who fought and died for civil rights. Instead now the dream is argued in terms of handouts and social programs. Where is the strong individualism and honor of the black community of the past? It certainly isn’t reflected in the current Democrat party. (nor Republican for that matter)


47 posted on 03/29/2008 6:39:02 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Heroism is something that when it is manifest it is undeniable. The same can be said for cowardice.)
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To: x
I disagree with everything you replied with.

First of all, t is NOT axiomatic that he get all the black vote tied up just because he is the "only black Democrat" running for president. Not but a few months ago most blacks wouldn't vote for him because he was "not black enough." If Hillary had been able to keep that support, Barack would have been history. It was the white vote that brought him to this point, not the black vote that only recently went his way. So, saying he got the black vote JUST because he is black is not quite right.

Also you said this...

"Maybe, but the other possibility is that he's winking at the White establishment and saying on the sly that he doesn't believe that anymore than they do. "
This I also disagree with. He isn't winking at whites saying he doesn't really believe it. From statements about how they hate America from his Marxist wife, and his constant harping on how bad everything is -- even as he pretends to be positive and the agent of "change" -- it pretty much shows that he agrees 100% with the racist Jeremiah Wright.

If Barack become president we will have 4 years of scolding whites for how racist they are. It will be AL the Obama presidency will be about.

48 posted on 03/30/2008 5:42:25 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Not but a few months ago most blacks wouldn't vote for him because he was "not black enough." If Hillary had been able to keep that support, Barack would have been history. It was the white vote that brought him to this point, not the black vote that only recently went his way. So, saying he got the black vote JUST because he is black is not quite right.

Okay, I was wrong in saying that Obama's getting those votes because of his color. My point, though, was that Obama doesn't need this particular church or Wright's message to establish credibility with Blacks. And I stand by that. He's won those votes by now and they didn't go to him because Blacks knew that he went to Wright's church.

I'm not sure that your analysis is entirely right, either. If Hillary led early on among African-Americans, it's because she had name recognition. Once Obama became a more familiar face, Black votes came to him. It's not like he doesn't have great political skills. Obama's not going to repudiate Wright, but that has as much to do with reasons of his own.

He isn't winking at whites saying he doesn't really believe it. From statements about how they hate America from his Marxist wife, and his constant harping on how bad everything is -- even as he pretends to be positive and the agent of "change" -- it pretty much shows that he agrees 100% with the racist Jeremiah Wright.

I said it was a "possibility" that Obama was "winking" at the White establishment just as much as at disaffected or radical African-Americans.

Obama's not going to appoint Wright to his cabinet. His appointees won't be that different from Clinton's. They'll be drawn from the establishment of the Democratic Party.

In that sense, Obama may well be "winking" at the Democratic establishment, to let them know that he won't be as much of a departure as many fear.

49 posted on 03/31/2008 1:06:54 PM PDT by x
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