Skip to comments.Make U of I officials explain themselves on veterans program
Posted on 03/30/2008 5:58:43 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
"In a lawsuit Van der Hooning filed against the U of I, he claims top administrators of the business school indicated there were too many "jarheads" in the program. Van der Hooning says he was ordered to reduce MBA scholarships from 110 to 17, and told to concoct "technical reasons" to dump veterans from the program."
"In other words, he claims that the U of I ordered a cover-up."
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>>claims top administrators of the business school indicated there were too many “jarheads” in the program. <<
First thought - so are the admins army or navy?
But rival services might say that - but not go so far as to cancel scholarships.
My guess would be draft dodgers, at best.
llinois Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn, a veterans' advocate and sponsor of the original U of I scholarship program, didn't find it funny.
Lt. Gov Quinn complained last November in a letter to university leaders.
"I am writing to express my continuing concern about the University of Illinois' Executive MBA program's treatment of our veterans," Quinn stated. "Since that promising beginning, I have been deeply disappointed by the University of Illinois' failure to fulfill its promise to our veterans. Instead of honoring our pledge to our veterans, the University of Illinois has cut back on its promise."
And now, the Illinois Court of Claims that heard Mr. Van der Hooning's case has ruled largely in his favor. The court last Friday upheld five of the six counts filed by the former dean, denying U of I's motion to dismiss his complaint.
The ruling by the claims court, which hears cases against state agencies, clears the way for Van der Hooning to take his case to the next venue. His lawyer, the famous Chicago patronage case attorney Michael Shakman, pledges to fight the university in circuit court. If a cover-up and retaliatory firing are proved there, it could result in punishment against the university and reinstatement of Van der Hooning's pay and position.
Sound to me like the dunderheads don’t even know who are called “jarheads” == it darned sure isn’t verterans of all services — that honorable title is reserved for Marines only.
Wow. This is pretty big. The idea that the tenured leftists at our universities might be held to account is heady stuff.
>>Sound to me like the dunderheads dont even know who are called jarheads == it darned sure isnt verterans of all services that honorable title is reserved for Marines only.<<
Not everybody is suited to be a soldier (and certainly not a marine). For example, I was raised in the army and I know I am suited for the military only in big war were we need everyone.
But everyone should at least appreciate that service.
We can’t (and should not try to) force appreciation. But we can damn sure insist they not use their government positions to discriminate against those who risk their lives to serve the country.
This is why I will never join the Alumni Association.
That, and because $60,000 was enough for anyone.
More tears that I shed for the U of I. Graduated in 1976 as a veteran with a “full-boat” veterans’ scholarship in the College of Commerce. Things have only gone really down hill since. But I knew that in the 1970’s that us Vets wouldn’t take too much cr*p from the lefty-loonies. Seems that the left doesn’t like to have opposing views.
I strongly suspect a huge weeding of the garden of administration is in order.
I'll believe it when I see it -- not until.
The sad fact is that this a 'nothing' here in Illinois.
At one school the woman president gave to friends and family what she could steal for herself, then anouncet she was retiring and her PAY would continue for YEARS!
I agree. Smells like a Land o'(bama) Lincoln discrimination lawsuit to me.
O'bamaHaybamabamabamaho & Reverent wRight mus' be out gathering crickets to go fishin' otherwise I'm sure we'd have heard from them by now.
(I tried to edumacate a couple of 'em and durned if they didn't join up anyhow! Maybe it's haireditarry? : )
The paper is a major suburban Chicago news outlet.
U of I is University of Illinois,
Only a remnant remains, the garden has been over run.
One of the facts I have always found fascinating ( and telling !) is how stupid these college Admin types show themselves to be when they open their mouths. Most of the time without engaging brain beforehand.
I hate it when those pukes try to overwhelm me with such emotions.
It appears to me that Van der Hooning is using the 'jarhead' issue as a pretext to recover his old position.
It also appears that no one quoted in this article understands the word 'jarhead'.
No problem... Cancel scholarships to veterans? Sure... Let’s cancel all federal funding to the school. Including student aid. I’m sure the college would do just fine with a student population measured in the hundreds, if that.
We’ll see about Van der Hooning. I’m sure they don’t understand the word ; ) But one thing’s for sure. Everybody’s innocent until proven guilty....
That’s my alma mater. They weren’t a whole lot more welcoming to ROTC students in the 70’s.
Iowa farm boy.
75% of the Universities out to lose funding.... worthless beds of commie pinko figs
Yet liberals keep saying that the military is using our young men and women who aren't able to get into college, or not smart enough for further education, or are the "victimized" minorities who don't have any chances in life. They complain that military service is the last resort for them because they have no chances. They say these young people are given no opportunities. Yet, it is because of the military and the educational opportunities afforded to all members that we have so many "jarheads" in college! These liberals say that our government recruits these people and that educated people with opportunities and college educations do not join the military.
Now we have this University complaining that too many military students are MBA candidates! LOL Guess this proves the liberal whiners are stupidly wrong - again!
HELP US JON KERY WE R STUK IN URBANA CHAMPANE AND CAN NOT GET INTO BIZNIS SKUL
I have not seen any numbers but I suspect the Vets are more successful in school then the typical incoming.
At my sons last Iraq homecoming (USMC Infantry) I met some of the guys who were now attending school. They said it was going well and many of their fellow students (non Vet) were not focussed on school.
I attended a local community college while active duty (retired now) and several of the professors stated the same thing. The active duty and vets were more driven to accomplish the course work with the highest possible grade (sans grading curve) than the other students.
Don't ask about the salary or job description for upper echelon school administrators.
Unless things have changed since I was at Screw of I, it's publicly available information. You could go to the library and request it, and be given a book listing what everyone, top to bottom, was paid.
It was pretty depressing reading, if you were a dead end peon with a lot of mouths to feed, like I was.
One Thousand dollars a day retirement!!!!
Illinois Loop: Salaries and Pensions
Catalani Gary T $380,227 CUSD 200
Bangser Henry S $356,500 NEW TRIER TWP HSD 203
Curley Mary M $321,149 HINSDALE CCSD 181
Kelly Dennis G $317,226 LYONS TWP HSD 204
Marks Linda R $316,874 GOLF ESD 67
Kanold Timothy D $292,938 ADLAI E STEVENSON HSD 125
Codell Neil C $286,208 NILES TWP CHSD 219
Bultinck Howard J $285,137 SUNSET RIDGE SD 29
Hager Maureen L $279,767 NORTH SHORE SD 112
Murray Laura L $279,397 HOMEWOOD FLOSSMOOR CHSD 233
Burns Kevin G $277,927 CHSD 218
Torchedlo Thomas A $266,478 WHEELING CCSD 21
Van Der Bogert Rebecca $265,922 WINNETKA SD 36
Radakovich Michael L $261,451 AURORA EAST USD 131
Fleming Larry K $259,878 LINCOLNSHIRE-PRAIRIEVIEW SD 103
Alson Allan L $258,876 EVANSTON TWP HSD 202
Wolf Boyce J $256,380 ROCK FALLS TWP HSD 301
Six-Figure Public Servants
Dr. Jacob Wilensky, a glaucoma expert - almost $242,000 a year pension.
former Illinois basketball coach Lou Henson - $250,000 a year pension.
Dr. Mahmood Mafee, a nueroradiologist - $265,000 a year pension.
Dr. Riad Barmada, a retired orthopedic surgery professor - $333,000 a year pension.
UIC Dr. Tapas K. Das Gupta, top pensioner in Illinois - currently being paid $358,000 a year.
“...U of I announced two years ago that it was going to give out up to 110 full-ride master's degree scholarships for veterans...”
This means a number from 0 to 110.
“And now, the Illinois Court of Claims that heard Mr. Van der Hooning’s case has ruled largely in his favor. The court last Friday upheld five of the six counts filed by the former dean, denying U of I's motion to dismiss his complaint.”
This means that a judge found enough merit from a one-sided argument to have an actual court case for five of the six allegations.
This whole thing sounds like a man who accidentally gave out the maximum scholarships without talking with his supervisors about the budget or the appropriateness of his actions.
Additionally, Mr. van der Hooning is the only one who has stated such things about the others in the program. Their voices will be heard, apparently, in court.
This is a VERY ONE-SIDED story. I know two of the people involved, and I highly doubt this situation is nearly what van der Hooning has claimed or taken for himself in the press over the past year.
Reply #20 from yesterday:
. “Smells like a Land o’(bama) Lincoln discrimination lawsuit to me. “
It appears to me that Van der Hooning is using the ‘jarhead’ issue as a pretext to recover his old position.
It also appears that no one quoted in this article understands the word ‘jarhead’.
20 posted on 03/30/2008 9:19:30 AM CDT by DUMBGRUNT
I’ll say this about Pat Quinn: He stands 100% behind the troops at every opportunity. If even half the elected Democrats were like this guy we’d have the war won by now.
It appears so according to the USMC press release from two years ago. It was going great guns, then. http://www.allbusiness.com/government/3567850-1.html
Sounds like somebody screwed the pooch. Why would I think that racial profiling would have anything to do with this?
The problem was referred to President B. Joseph White, who apparently decided van der Hooning’s boss, Dean of the College of Business, Avijit Ghosh was the responsible party.