Posted on 03/30/2008 12:56:05 PM PDT by ensignsj
I recently had a conversation with a young friend who expressed his displeasure at the lack of conservative candidates in this presidential election cycle. His feeling, shared my many on the right, is obviously that John McCain is not a “real” conservative. I’ve heard this sentiment from many conservatives in the past few months - from high profile squawkers like Rush Limbaugh and James Dobson to rank and file folks in my everyday life. I’m more than a little sympathetic to their complaints. I myself have spent no small amount of mental energy since the New Hampshire primary trying to come to terms with the reality that John McCain will be the Republican (and by extension, conservative) standard bearer for 2008.
The list of conservative grievances against McCain is long, but I think the least forgivable are McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform (I challenge you to find a bigger legislative travesty), his vote against the Bush tax cuts, and his participation in the so-called Gang of 14.
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If he runs against Obama I think he might just pull it out - But then, what are we left with. A Pyrrhic ‘Victory’ to be sure.
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I might have to vote for McCain this fall,but love him?Satan will be renting ice skates in hell before that happens.
How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love McCain Or: Say Hello to President Obama
I will vote for McCain because the alternative is unthinkable. I will not hesitate to criticize him on many issues. I am wishfully thinking that he may turn more conversative when confronted with the ugly opposition of the traitorous rats.
More likely he'll bend over and grab his ankles for them.
'Rats. RINOs. SSDC.
“His feeling, shared my many on the right, is obviously that John McCain is not a “real” conservative.”
it is not a feeling. It is an iron-clad fact.
If he wins, he does so without my vote. I will not further the desruction of this nation by endorsing that treachorous ass.
Given his history, quote on alito, and gang of 14 participation, what makes you think he’ll nominate a competent judge?
And his WOT progress is entirely foreign driven. Once they’re captured, they’re a US citizen.
I will not vote for McCain because the alternative is only slightly worse.
Two reasons (and only two) to vote McCain:
1) WOT
2) National Security
On any other issue he is useless to true conservatism.
If McCain succeeds, with Congress's help, in flushing our sovereignty down the dumper, we won't have a nation to secure.
Dont forget mcnutts kennedy amnesty.That the pisser for me.Let the rat bastards have it this time.You know they will screw it up bigtime.Why vote for the lesser of liberals?
Please admit you are just voting for him because he’s got an (R) after his name. McLame will be no better than Osama Obama nor Shillary.
They won’t
If you notice, they desperately try to justify themselves, usually with WOT or court justices, but McCain’s own record shows how thats a bad idea.
He was part of the gang of 14 and blasted Alito’s nomination.
He will sell out the country internally which would mean squat to foreign affairs. And once the terrorists are captured, they become defacto US Citizens.
Nonetheless, I might get a bit enthused - assuming McCain means what McCain says, which for a US Senator, represents something of a leap of faith. But everything else our presumptive standard-bearer seems to believe is pretty much a pale imitation of Left-liberal orthodoxy. Ugh. Same ol' same ol', but less of it. Maybe. We all know the drill - and where it's headed. Remember the (ex-concentration camp) dentist in Marathon Man? Oh, the pain... If it weren't for the prospect of raising the curtain on "Obamanation: The Movie!" or "Clinton II, This Time It's Impersonal", I'd gladly stay home and watch this disaster flick unfold on TV. Once again, Conservatives get RINO'd in the end, and we all know the sequel is never as good as the original.
It has been a long, sad story.
One could vote for Goldwater in good conscience
... and Reagan.
Other than them, those three times, it was always
hold your nose and mark your ballot for the lesser of two evils.
Coming up is the worst such assignment of all.
But i’m just about resigned to doing it once again.
Thanksalot, GOP.
Not!
We need McCain if only to keep the country intact until we can get a real conservative in office.
MeCain/Kennedy - Comprehensive Immigration Reform
Otherwise known as McAmnesty!
McPain has sold out our national security to terrorists & illegal aliens who will take over our jobs. He is NO better than Osamabama.
Conservative Plusses and Minuses:
Minuses:
McLame is an angry, stupid receptacle for kooky ideas like man-made global warming which does not exist, and which could crush America’s economy if he gets his way on it. He owes it to his country to do a LITTLE research on the widely discredited MSM view of this destructive hoax.
McLame has no clue how the economy works. He is for tax cuts, after having opposed them -for political reasons only.
McLame is a shameless egomaniac RINO. Will the NYT love me for saying this? I’ll say it.
McLame wants to close Gitmo and would just as soon see New York blasted by a nuke as get his hands dirty doing a Jack Bauer on a known al-Qaida murderer. Or even pour a little water up his nose. Pandering gets morally retarded if you act on an indefensible idea like that.
McLame actively sought to become Hanoi John Kerry’s running mate in 2004. He’s either lying about being a Reaganite conservative (yes), or he’d have been willing to lie about Kerry’s wonderfulness for four years (yes as well). What honor?
Plusses:
McLame wil see Iraq through. We know what happens when America is perceived as having “lost” a war. Last time the Dems pulled a defeat out of the jaws of victory we got Afghanistan, Iran, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Cambodia, Boat People, Angola, Lebanon, etc...
McLame is pro-life. With Stevens at death’s door and Ginsburg in the waiting room, we could avoid two young Dem appointees on the the court. We will likely get a couple of Kennedys out of McLame. That could rid us of Roe v. Wade. That is a heavy brick, folks. Don’t take it off the scale.
McLame wants to cut pork. Does he want to reform entitlements? Unknown. But he’s our best chance.
McLame says he’s against tax increases. Now. Again, best we can do.
McLame and Mitt Romney are getting along now. We might get a great Vice Presidential nominee who understands economics. And McLame is old. Really old if you get my drift.
I am dis-satisfied with McCain.
You, on the other hand, are watching too much TV.
The “least forgivable?”
Let's see - anybody remember immigration and McCain's Mexican amnesty adviser - how about legal rights for terrorists, no waterboarding, and closing Guantanamo Bay - how about his “New” Global Warming Treaty, and his cap-and-trade CO2 credits scheme - how about his repeated criticisms of Evangelical Conservatives, who are part of the foundation of the Republican Party.
There is one - and only one - reason a Conservative might vote for McCain, and that is the fear that Obama or Clinton will be even more destructive than McCain.
I have all but made my mind up to write in Rush Limbaugh's name in the general election.
The next liberal to ruin America really needs to have a (D) next to their name.
Chances of that are slim to none. He has been my senator his entire career. We tried to run a recall on him once but we failed to get rid of him.
Don’t the rest of the issues really belong to the States?
That's an unfortunate association. Since it's not true anymore.
And he squeaked by to reelection with only 77% of the vote.
Nonsense. He was one of Alito's biggest boosters. What he said was that he would try to find jurists more like Roberts rather than one who "wore his conservatism on his sleeve."
McCain is far, far, far more conservative than Goldwater. Goldwater was more libertarian in his social policies.
That FRiend is unlikely to happen again, if ever. The GOP has dumped conservatives and the nation will move leftward.
Question is, do people want to vote for moving it in that direction by fooling themselves that its going to be just this time and then we will have a conservative?.
He has declared entitlement reform one of his top priorities. He may have to yell "F you!" at a few senators but he is the one person in the world most likely to get 'er done.
“...that John McCain is not a “real” conservative...high profile squawkers like Rush Limbaugh and James Dobson....”
If the writer wants to persuade conservatives, the use of quotation-marks (as if concerns about who is and isn’t “real” are absurd), and this denigration of Limbaugh and Dobson — not the way to do it.
Lost my interest, that fast.
Really? He said Alito was a poor choice because he wore his conservatism on his sleeve.
Romney supporters are a laugh a minute.
Will the last business owner put under by RomneyCare turn out the lights?
More recently, Mr. McCain has told conservatives he would be happy to appoint the likes of Chief Justice John Roberts to the Supreme Court. But he indicated he might draw the line on a Samuel Alito, because "he wore his conservatism on his sleeve." Fund-WSJ
McCain was one of Alito's biggest backers. He is saying that he would choose lower profile justices based on their judicial record rather than their activities in other conservative organizations.
McCain has probably had it out for Alito because Alito wrote the decision in the Wiconsin right to life case that went against McCain and Russ Feingold.
That’s encouraging to hear. I hadn’t. Thanks.
I’ll vote for the guy, as we all should, but it will be a practical vote, not an enthusiastic one.
I’m with you. I will not vote for any of the presidential
hopefuls. I’m and old man and have voted in every election.
I just can’t imagine how people think like Kondrake today
suggesting Colin Powell or Christie Todd whitman for vice-
president.
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>We need McCain if only to keep the country intact until we can get a real conservative in office.<
Do we desperately buy time? How much damage can the other two really do in four years? I would like to see a serious hypothetical worst case scenario for each one of the Three Stooges. I am not knowledgable enough to seriously outline a study like that.
I don’t believe McCain will keep our country intact either. The destruction might be more incremental and subtle.
I honestly don’t know what I’m going to do. The more I hear him spew globull warming nonsense the more I feel I just can’t suck it up and give him my vote. McCain pi**es me off no end, but the other two are deeply nauseating(Clinton)and potentially terrifying(Barack Hussein Stealth Osama).
I don’t want to enable the RNC or our worst enemies.
To me, they are ALL bad. McCain is just not quite as obvious as the others.
I’m still mad at the RNC and MSM for propping up and breathing life back into McCain.
When you really think about it, how much choice did we have?
The whole farce was carefully and methodically engineered for exactly the result we got.
There is not enough jail space for all the treasonous people in power now, whether they be presidents, senators, congressmen, mayors or media talking heads.
Maybe there has to be some kind of megadisastrous natural event or attack to pull our collective heads out of our butts! Armed rebellion would be impossible and out of the question anyway.
I’ll be obsessing until November. When that time comes, I might just have to flip a coin and be done with it like Anton Cheguhr or whatever his name was.
Our whole country is getting to be No Country For Old Men.
It’s not age though. It’s lack of old school values.
If these were my only choices today, McCain by a landslide. I don't hold my nose anymore ~ lesser evils? No. You ask for my opinion, here it is! God Bless America!
I for one have no problem if McCain prefers to put a couple more Roberts on the Court.
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Oh I understand. This whole mess was a manipulated mess. It is a shame our country has come to this.
The elites and the MSM have chosen for us so I guess our vote doesn’t mean a whole lot.
Sure takes the fun out of it. Our primary here is in May. I won’t even bother to participate in that. Its like we can have a choice of Saddam, or Saddam. Thats how his elections worked.
I guess I am going to not get upset from here on out. I have resigned myself to whomever wins. I will vote in the general election for GOP candidates, then I will leave it up to others to choose POTUS. None of them are people I would or could support.
Be my guest CottonBall.
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