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To: teddyballgame
“Free speech for me, but not for thee...”
2 posted on
04/01/2008 11:19:02 AM PDT by
Old Sarge
(CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
To: teddyballgame
Before I knee jerk, I would like to see the drawing in comparison to the others. Was the grade based on content or quality?
3 posted on
04/01/2008 11:19:47 AM PDT by
mnehring
To: teddyballgame
These liberal pinheads seem to think freedom of religion is the freedom to ban religion. Religion is a belief, well, who are they to say their beliefs are legal but ones that pertain to religion aren’t? Seems to me this is religious persecution.
4 posted on
04/01/2008 11:20:16 AM PDT by
CodeToad
To: teddyballgame
We must respect the diversity of everyone except for the white religious males.
7 posted on
04/01/2008 11:24:11 AM PDT by
swampdweller
(Live Free or Die Hard)
To: teddyballgame
"His teacher, Julie Millin, asked him to remove the reference to the Bible, saying students were making remarks about it. He refused, and she gave him a zero on the project."
JulieM@tomah.k12.wi.us
18 posted on
04/01/2008 11:34:12 AM PDT by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: teddyballgame
Tomah High School
901 Lincoln Avenue
Tomah, Wisconsin 54660
Phone: 608-374-7358
Fax: 608-374-7290
Principles e-mail marlonm@tomah.k12.wi.us
19 posted on
04/01/2008 11:34:36 AM PDT by
Rogle
To: teddyballgame
I can’t draw worth a darn so I got an ‘A’ in art class by tracing album covers (And on leaf of a fern). This looks like free hand and meets the criteria. I bet the John 3:16 set the teacher off.
22 posted on
04/01/2008 11:39:09 AM PDT by
rollo tomasi
(Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
To: teddyballgame
put the cross in a jar of urine and he’d get federal funding, too!
25 posted on
04/01/2008 11:42:37 AM PDT by
WOBBLY BOB
(Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
To: teddyballgame
Here’s a good case for the ACLU to spend some of their government money on.
To: teddyballgame
"Later that day, assistant principal Cale Jackson told the boy his religious expression infringed on other students' rights."
This is a scary road to head down. If religious expression infringes on others' rights, in other words, if we have a right from religious expression then we do not have a right to religious expression in public at all. I've argued vehemently before with individuals who insist that you don't even have the right to bow your head and pray silently during school hours, such as before a test or competition, and it always stems from this starting point. In high school I once witnessed a classmate have his right of religious expression severely infringed upon when a temporary instructor demanded he remove a cross (just a cross, no blood, no body) that was set as his background on his computer screen. We were doing our science projects and he had to bring his computer from home to complete his project, it was his property and the instructor didn't care. If I had known then what I know now about the right of religious expression, even at school, I would have stood up for him until either the instructor backed down or suspended me. As it stood, public school had "taught" me that we had no right to free religious expression on school property. I'm saddened to think how many other students are led astray and think the same thing I thought. Kudos to this kid for standing up to the teacher.
To: teddyballgame
If he had drawn the Cross in some sort of nasty thing, then it'd been OK - like one art exhibit that featured a cross in a jar of urine .... glad I was home schooled.
38 posted on
04/01/2008 12:18:37 PM PDT by
SkyDancer
("I Believe In Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
To: teddyballgame
As things have developed over the past few decades, there’s little doubt that religion and religious students are seriously discriminated against.
Religion can be described as a particular individual’s belief system. Well, even atheists have belief systems, though there’s no specific system subscribed to by millions as with Christianity. But people with all sorts of other belief systems are given access to public school students for speeches, and to hand out material, advocate causes, etc.
There’s a couple of ways to end this rank discrimination against Christians: allow Christianity to be presented as other belief systems, or allow no belief systems to be presented in public schools. In that latter case, the teaching of values would be restricted to the teaching of the US Constitution and basic law that affects all citizens, and the school’s code of conduct for students.
I think there have been some attempts to have secular humanism declared a religion. I agree, that and several other belief systems should be declared to be religions, and treated the same as Christianity.
My thought is that no belief system should be taught in schools other than those reflected in the U. S. Constitution and U. S. law. I also think this kid is being discriminated against as things now stand, and hope he wins a suit and settlement against this school.
40 posted on
04/01/2008 12:22:07 PM PDT by
Will88
To: teddyballgame
...asked him to remove the reference to the Bible, saying students were making remarks about it.Don't the Libs usually tell us that 'one purpose of Art is to spark dialogue'?
42 posted on
04/01/2008 12:38:48 PM PDT by
ApplegateRanch
(If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
To: teddyballgame; All
Given there is no mention of the 10th A. protected power of the states to address religious issues in the referenced article, I'm adding Fox News and the Alliance Defense Fund to the list of organizations, mostly news agencies, that are evidently not willing to see the forest for the trees with respect to constitutional injustices that they are reporting.
AP
Herald Sun
U.S.News
Patriot Post
Washington Post
Heritage Foundation
Wikipedia
Star-Tribune (Minnesota)
Reuters
Social Security
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
The Oregonian
The New England Journal of Medicine
Gunlaws.com
BerkshireEagle.com
Fox News
Alliance Defense Fund
The bottom line problem with these religious expression issues is not the news agencies, however. The problem is that ignorance of the Constitution and its history is epidemic. If the people whose freedom of religious expression is being stifled were aware of the information at the following link then they could drive the anti-religious factions into their holes and we'd see a new America overnight, in my opinion.
This post (<-click), while addressing a 10 Commandments issue, explains how FDR's establishment of constitutionally unauthorized federal spending programs arguably led to situations like the one addressed by this thread where religious expression is being unconstitutionally stifled.
Regardless that the Alliance Defense Fund is seemingly not seeing the forest for the trees concerning the reality that there is no constitutional problem with student Christian art in public schools, it makes me wonder if lawyers are actually trying to help confuse what our constitutional rights are as opposed to hurting their income by "curing the patient."
To: wintertime
45 posted on
04/01/2008 1:29:33 PM PDT by
wintertime
(Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
To: teddyballgame
46 posted on
04/01/2008 1:33:11 PM PDT by
LiteKeeper
(Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
To: metmom
Another Reason to Homeschool
50 posted on
04/01/2008 3:15:25 PM PDT by
wintertime
(Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; bill1952; ...
ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL
This ping list is for the other articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list.
51 posted on
04/01/2008 3:34:42 PM PDT by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: teddyballgame
The kid should spread the word far and wide...then list the work on eBay.
I’d bid on it.
57 posted on
04/01/2008 5:04:01 PM PDT by
kimmie7
(At the end of the day it comes down to the Lord and me, not me and the GOP.)
To: teddyballgame
58 posted on
04/01/2008 5:35:59 PM PDT by
TASMANIANRED
(TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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