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We are Losing Our Country...Can We Save It?
New Media Journal ^ | April 2, 2008 | Chris North

Posted on 04/02/2008 6:41:16 AM PDT by K-oneTexas

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To: steel_resolve

I do believe that all that happens, is part of God’s plan. How do you know God acknowledges this? If God created all, then how could He have not created evil?


21 posted on 04/02/2008 8:11:58 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr

read a bible. that could probably give you a clue on how God feels about evil.


22 posted on 04/02/2008 8:18:38 AM PDT by steel_resolve (I stand with the Tibetans.)
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To: Niuhuru
When my generation takes over all this stuff will be reversed

I hope that you're right and that it's not too late by then.

23 posted on 04/02/2008 8:22:30 AM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: semantic

The nation will be lost as we lose our national identity and shared sense of endeavor. The impact of unbridled and less diverse immigration will be to change the entire country, not just the western states. We will take on the profile of a third world country with a large, permanent underclass and a wealthy elite living in walled compounds with private guards. This country will be taken down thru its own democratic institutions, i.e., thru the ballot box.


24 posted on 04/02/2008 8:57:34 AM PDT by kabar
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To: puroresu
Samuel Huntington agrees with you: The Hispanic Challenge
25 posted on 04/02/2008 8:59:15 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Niuhuru

Can’t happen soon enough! Our votes sure aren’t the answer.


26 posted on 04/02/2008 9:05:50 AM PDT by devistate one four (nam '68)
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To: Niuhuru
When my generation takes over all this stuff will be reversed. We’re only waiting until the hippies retire and after seizing control we’ll rebuild this country, step by bitter step. It’s only a matter of waiting it out...

See Post #5 and this article, Study: Detroit gets F in Grad Rate.

The time for action is NOW, not when the hippies and Liberals give up their hold on power (they won't!).

Not one of our Presidential candidates will stop the downward spiral. They will only aid and abet the destruction. Our only hope is to start by turning Congress and the Senate around (a daunting task). In four years, it will be too late. America will be past the point of no return. The worst will be cemented in with new laws and the Supreme Court will be stacked with new Liberals.

America will be effectively finished just in time for you to raise your kids.

27 posted on 04/02/2008 9:07:35 AM PDT by Gritty (Rule by the people is threatened if they're unable to gain a plausible grip on reality-Tony Blankley)
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To: AlexW

Running away from MY COUNTRY is NEVER an option.

You can only have something stolen from if you LET it be stolen.

I AM a “Native American”. I was BORN here. My folks were BORN here. My great-great grandfolks were born here. My ancestors came here and hacked a Nation out of the wild, fought, bled and died for it, and made it into something beautiful.

You want to run away, you go ahead. My people weren’t made that way.

“Child rearing and other responsibilities are BEHIND you..”

The duty, obligation, and RESPONSIBILITY OF BEING AN AMERICAN CITIZEN IS NEVER BEHIND YOU.

“I was born an American. I live as an American; I shall die an American; and I intend to perform the DUTIES INCUMBENT UPON ME IN THAT CHARACTER TO THE END OF MY CAREER. I mean to do this with absolute disregard to personal consequences. What are the personal consequences?

What is the individual man with all the good or evil that may betide him, in comparison with the good and evil which may befall a great country, and in the midst of great transactions which concern that country’s fate? Let the consequences be what they will, I am careless, No man can suffer too much, and no man can fall too soon, if he suffer or if he fall, in the defense of the liberties and Constitution of his country.”

...Daniel Webster

People DIED for this. I’ll NEVER give it up.


28 posted on 04/02/2008 9:12:19 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: steel_resolve

I have, not all, but that requires a belief that I do not possess.


29 posted on 04/02/2008 9:13:36 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: puroresu
We don't even agree on the propositions. If all the immigrants came here because they believed in free market capitalism, limited government, personal responsibility, freedom of belief then we might be doing just fine.

As things stand though, they don't. We have all sorts of people who are anti-American, believen in group rights over individual rights, want socialism, censorship, and radical transformation of the society they are joining. This is summed up by their motto: "si, se puede".

Yes, we can transform your society into 'our' society. You know FUBU world, La Raza!

Given the level of 3rd world immigration already a a accomplished fact we better pray that the proposition nation idea does work! Elsewise everyone needs to buy another copy of Chittum's book.

30 posted on 04/02/2008 9:34:20 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: steel_resolve
"read a bible. that could probably give you a clue on how God feels about evil."

The Bible states in multiple places that God hates evil.

It is obvious God isn't doing anything about evil. It's all talk and no action, all bark and no bite, so who f-ing cares how God feels about evil.

How can anyone respect a God who is all bark and no bite?

America was founded upon individual rights and limited government.

When government became unlimited and obliterated individual rights, America died. We are no longer America.

You think you have rights? Try to exercise them. See what happens. See if government honors your "rights."

Many people believe God was instrumental in the founding of America.

Really? Then why has God allowed America to die? Why has God allowed government to push God aside, take over God's spot, and obliterate our rights?

Fact is, God was not instrumental in the founding of America. America was founded by men, just like any other nation down through history.

Our nation today shows no similarity to the nation they started. What those men believed back then is not believed today. Those men would be horrifed at what this nation has degenerated into.

The government they set up back then is not the government we have today. The form is the same, but the substance behind that form is radically different. No one in government today believes in individual rights. No one in government today believes in limited government.
31 posted on 04/02/2008 9:35:50 AM PDT by gpk9 ("Fairness" is the new Constitution and Bill of (no) Rights for America... I mean Amerika.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Too weird to ever work, sorry.


32 posted on 04/02/2008 9:36:54 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: K-oneTexas
There are lots of other ways we're losing our country. How about Wall Street banditry? $30 billion to ONE BANK last week, wow, that is same order of magnitude as all the money sent home by Mexicans. At least the majority of Mexicans are doing useful work somewhere.
33 posted on 04/02/2008 9:38:21 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

It has actually worked for generation in Norfolk Island, among Native American tribes (before they met with white man’s welfare culture), in some Confucian Asian countries and in the early days of our Republic. The aged gave public service in return for social security. Public service was not a lifetime entitlement for a ruling class to be supported by the working class.


34 posted on 04/02/2008 10:14:58 AM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: gpk9
It is obvious God isn't doing anything about evil. It's all talk and no action, all bark and no bite, so who f-ing cares how God feels about evil.
35 posted on 04/02/2008 10:27:56 AM PDT by steel_resolve (I stand with the Tibetans.)
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To: steel_resolve

I meant to add to my post this thought: With a statement like that, what more could I possibly say to you?


36 posted on 04/02/2008 10:28:53 AM PDT by steel_resolve (I stand with the Tibetans.)
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To: kabar
The nation will be lost

And will eventually be re-constituted (pun intended).

It appears that many tend to ignore the temporal nature of any generations' cultural orthodoxy (ie "political correctness" in its current parlance). 500 years ago, one could be burned at the stake for heresy; 225, tried for treason for challenging the throne; 100, persecuted for sexual "deviancy".

As populations are further segregated and opinions hardened, the power of current fashionable orthodoxies which give protection to anti-American rhetoric/policies will fade. Once the battle lines are drawn, who cares what the enemy thinks of you (or they you)?

At that point, innate human behavior, which has been percolating along & driving natural selection for 3-5m years, eg distrust of non-group members, lethal actions undertaken to mitigate/eliminate competition, etc will once again burst forth.

We won't be here to see it, but I am very sanguine about the eventual outcome for those future generations versed in the history of Western Civ who wish to enjoy the benefits of liberty for themselves.

37 posted on 04/02/2008 10:56:37 AM PDT by semantic
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To: steel_resolve

You’re speechless. There is nothing more you can say. You’ve probably never heard someone come right out and speak the reality of this issue.

If God ever decides to get off His lazy ass and do something about evil, let us know. Until then, take your pathetic religion somewhere else. We’re not interested.


38 posted on 04/02/2008 11:00:36 AM PDT by gpk9 ("Fairness" is the new Constitution and Bill of (no) Rights for America... I mean Amerika.)
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To: gpk9

In my opinion, God is doing something about evil. He is bringing good into the world. Look no further than brave men and women sacrificing for things that are good - things like love, honor, etc. Or look in your everyday life - there are millions of people doing good everyday - far FAR outstripping the evil done in this world. The fact that you’re pissed he hasn’t eliminated evil and turned earth into a paradise of rainbows and puppies speaks more to your childish foot stomping more than anything else.


39 posted on 04/02/2008 2:00:41 PM PDT by steel_resolve (I stand with the Tibetans.)
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To: steel_resolve

You’re certainly entitled to your rose-colored glasses, but the rest of us realize America is dying, if not already dead, which I believe it is, evil far out-guns good in this world, and there are no signs of God intervening to stop it.

So which is it? God can’t, or God won’t?

Either way, he gets no respect from me.


40 posted on 04/02/2008 3:23:22 PM PDT by gpk9 ("Fairness" is the new Constitution and Bill of (no) Rights for America... I mean Amerika.)
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