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Districts Are Told That Home-Schoolers Must Get Own Therapy If Not Enrolled
Red Orbit ^ | 31 March 2008 | Barbara O'Brien

Posted on 04/02/2008 7:11:05 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes

Home-schooled children in New York who receive special-education services through their school district will have to get their own therapy or go to school full time.

The state Education Department notified school districts in January that they cannot provide the services.

In a memo to superintendents, the state says the federal Individual with Disabilities Education Act requires students who are home-schooled to receive the same special-education services as those enrolled in private schools, if the state designates home schools as private schools. But New York State does not recognize home schools as private schools.

The change came as the result of a decision by a state review officer in a case brought last year.

"It's a problem we had seen cropping up across the country," said T.J. Schmidt, a staff attorney with the Home School Legal Defense Association, a nonprofit organization providing legal services to home-school parents. "The federal government basically leaves it up to the states to determine who is a nonpublic student."

He said many parents in New York have received letters from school districts telling them that the services will be terminated.

"Often these children are in most need of additional services because their parents may not be able to provide these services themselves, or they're going to have a difficult time getting these services outside school," Schmidt said.

The decision affects a relatively small number of students. There are about 450 children statewide receiving the services from their school districts, the state estimates.

In the Kenmore-Town of Tonawanda School District, the district is setting up appointments with the parents of four children, said Michael B. Haggerty, a spokesman for the district. Most of them receive occupational or physical therapy, he said. The district will go over the individualized education program for the pupil to see if any changes in services are warranted.

"The choice is, they enroll their student in public school or private school. If not, they're kind of on their own for the level of services their child needs," Haggerty said. "This is something the state decided, and whether we want to or not, we have to comply with the regulations."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
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P.S. The headline is theirs, not mine. :-)
1 posted on 04/02/2008 7:14:07 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: metmom; Clintonfatigued; DaveLoneRanger

Ping... This affects New York homeschoolers.


2 posted on 04/02/2008 7:15:30 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Actually, it seems reasonable.


3 posted on 04/02/2008 7:15:55 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Homeschooling ping, please.


4 posted on 04/02/2008 7:18:06 AM PDT by sthguard
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To: Tired of Taxes; The Mayor; neverdem
"The choice is, they enroll their student in public school or private school. If not, they're kind of on their own for the level of services their child needs," Haggerty said. "This is something the state decided, and whether we want to or not, we have to comply with the regulations."

This is not part of the homeschool regs for NYS.

They've been doing this for years. They've set precedent.

This amounts to blackmail.

5 posted on 04/02/2008 7:18:20 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RobRoy

I agree. This is a great lesson about receiving government money. It does (and arguably should) have strings attached. If we don’t like the strings we shouldn’t accept the money. Not sure that’s what you are implying but that’s my take on the thing.


6 posted on 04/02/2008 7:19:04 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: RobRoy
Actually, it seems reasonable.

Only if homeschoolers are exempted from paying school taxes for resources that they cannot use.

7 posted on 04/02/2008 7:21:48 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: Tired of Taxes

This, from a state that has a blind governor! He should be ashamed of himself to allow this to happen.


8 posted on 04/02/2008 7:21:50 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Tired of Taxes; DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list.

While technically not another reason to homeschool, this is just yet another attempt to attack homschooling. Since they can't do it through legislative means, they'll try any underhanded tactic. These parents pay property and school taxes already. It's not like they're getting something for nothing.

If the school districts want to watch their budgets, they'd make more progress with internal and administrative cuts.

9 posted on 04/02/2008 7:22:35 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

If they pay property taxes, then they should be able to receive the services. If not, then they should be able to opt out of the property taxes. Yeah, that’ll happen!


10 posted on 04/02/2008 7:23:51 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: AD from SpringBay

If you’re a property owner, your taxes are paying for the local school system. Why shouldn’t you be entitled to the services that other taxpayers are entitled to?

It’s akin to saying, paint your house a certain color, or the paramedics won’t respond when you call 911. Your taxes paid for the services, and the local government should not put restrictions on your use of them.

Just MHO.


11 posted on 04/02/2008 7:24:29 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Tired of Taxes
I'm betting that half of the students won't need therapy or other 'special educational services' once they get out of the public school system.
12 posted on 04/02/2008 7:26:36 AM PDT by realdifferent1 (I hope the 'War on Terror' goes better than the 'War on Poverty'.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

What about the tax money that’s extorted from the parents in the form of property and school taxes? They have to pay it on the threat of losing their property and going to jail.

It’s not like the government’s money is theirs, as if it’s a private foundation. The money the government is disbursing to pay for these services comes from the very people they’re denying the services to.

So you think it’s OK to force people to pay for something and then deny them the use of it? Isn’t this supposed to be a representative government? Who put them in charge to make those kinds of decisions without the input of the people?


13 posted on 04/02/2008 7:26:51 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

It is EXACTLY what I was implying. Thank you.


14 posted on 04/02/2008 7:27:03 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: dawn53
Why shouldn’t you be entitled to the services that other taxpayers are entitled to?

That's true too. I'd love to see the day when people who do not have school-age children or who home-school do not have to pay taxes to support the public schools.
15 posted on 04/02/2008 7:27:42 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: RobRoy

You might think so. However, experiences with having a brother with special needs teach me that there is no practical way to get therapy services except through the government. My parents did not want to, but they had no choice. My brother needed the therapy and you couldn’t even get appointments unless you went with the government. There’s basically no private market for this stuff.


16 posted on 04/02/2008 7:27:42 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Tired of Taxes

Sounds like an equal protection lawsuit to me.


17 posted on 04/02/2008 7:28:01 AM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: pnh102
People without children pay the same taxes.

My personal belief is that public schools are obsolete and should be dissolved.

But nobody is running to the polls to make me president so I won't hold my breath on that one.

18 posted on 04/02/2008 7:28:17 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy

No, it’s not. It’s wrong to force people to pay taxes and then deny them the use of the services they’ve paid for.

Or do you think extortion is OK?

It’s just a low handed attempt to force homeschoolers into the system using financial means instead of legal means. They know it would never fly if they tried to do it the right way, so they’re being underhanded.

You approve of that?


19 posted on 04/02/2008 7:30:57 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RobRoy

RR, now that position I can agree with you on!


20 posted on 04/02/2008 7:32:49 AM PDT by DeLaine
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