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Ohio Hospital Contests a Story Clinton Tells (Hillary Lies Exposed Again)
New York Times ^ | April 5, 2008 | Deborah Sontag

Posted on 04/05/2008 2:12:28 AM PDT by red flanker

Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.

The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured.

“We implore the Clinton campaign to immediately desist from repeating this story,” said Rick Castrop, chief executive officer of the O’Bleness Health System.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; clintonian; congenitalliar; demlies; forked; hillary; hillaryclinton; hospital; lie; lies; oh2008; pathologicliar; serialliar; trinabachtel
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Four Hors of the Apocalypse

1 posted on 04/05/2008 2:12:29 AM PDT by red flanker
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To: red flanker

If she is forced to plead “sleep deprivation” again, her faltering campaign might never be able to recover. The Osama fans in the MSM will take care of it.


2 posted on 04/05/2008 2:18:13 AM PDT by indcons
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To: indcons

Good Find...


3 posted on 04/05/2008 2:21:55 AM PDT by LowOiL ("I don't need Mr. Keyes lecturing me on Christianity. That's why I have a pastor." Barack Obama)
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To: indcons

...but the Clinton version of the story is more interesting than the Truth!


4 posted on 04/05/2008 2:25:29 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghill mi do dhuine. Fg am bealach.)
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To: red flanker

I don’t know what to say!!!

I’ve attempted a few x’s but words escape me.

I can’t be flip. I can’t be angry. There is something wrong.


5 posted on 04/05/2008 2:26:35 AM PDT by malia (God Bless America, President Bush, our troops and their families!)
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To: red flanker

Who’s the guy on the right?


6 posted on 04/05/2008 2:30:33 AM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: malia

“There is something wrong.”

OPINION: Both Mr. and Mrs. Clinton are serial liars.


7 posted on 04/05/2008 2:34:09 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

“Americans of all political persuasions are coming to the sad realization that our First Lady... is a congenital liar.”-——William Safire


8 posted on 04/05/2008 2:41:26 AM PDT by cowboyway ("No damn man kills me and lives." -- Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: cowboyway

Yep, that works, too.


9 posted on 04/05/2008 2:42:11 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Neanderthal
It's NY attorney general Andrew Cuomo (alongside Superdckhead Spitzer)


10 posted on 04/05/2008 2:44:16 AM PDT by red flanker
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To: IncPen

“Hillary lies exposed again.”

Hillary lies,exposed again.

The first sent shivers up and down my spine, the second was no surprise


11 posted on 04/05/2008 2:48:08 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Nailbiter

Snicker — good take!


12 posted on 04/05/2008 3:25:28 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (SPAM: best in the can and in sammiches -- not for use on computers.)
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To: indcons
First, the uglier-than-ugly one will lay it at the hands of the deputy ("Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February") until the "reporters" uncover the fact that the lying wife of a lying president, oh so eager to have a pitch, never confirmed the story.

Then the Obama campaign can lay rightful claim attacking her irresponsible conduct and how it would spill over into the White House governance.

To survive the next few months gets more challenging each day!

Regards . . . Penny

13 posted on 04/05/2008 3:36:59 AM PDT by Penny
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To: red flanker

Now, which candidate would you like to take that 3 a.m. phone call?


14 posted on 04/05/2008 3:39:03 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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Gee, everybody is sniping at Hillary>


15 posted on 04/05/2008 3:57:59 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Cindy
OPINION: Both Mr. and Mrs. Clinton are serial liars.

Barak (can't mention the middle name) Obama and Michelle (the racist) Obama aren't too far behind.

16 posted on 04/05/2008 3:58:28 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: red flanker

Another day another lie. When the rat is treated as a Republican by the ratmedia, he doesn’t know what hit him.


17 posted on 04/05/2008 4:06:23 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: red flanker

But Ms. Sontag has allowed the story into the press, in its entirety, again, without any mention of the hospital’s liability under the federal anti-dumping laws.


18 posted on 04/05/2008 4:36:00 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: red flanker

Will PA and NC have the good sense NOT to vote for someone who: Cries for a vote, Misspoke for a vote, Misheard for a vote, lies about a hospital for a vote, lies about were her daughter was on 9/11 for a vote and more lies for a vote and then on her MLK speech does the tear trick again for a vote.

I am dumbfounded that people keep falling for her tricks. There’s an old saying “Foul me once, shame on you, foul me twice, shame one me”


19 posted on 04/05/2008 4:39:49 AM PDT by blueyon (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: red flanker

A story Obama’s MSM is only reporting because Hillary has not dropped out of the race.


20 posted on 04/05/2008 4:43:34 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: red flanker
When isn't Clinton lying?

The sniper fire dodging, lifelong Yankee fan isn't capable of telling the truth about anything.

21 posted on 04/05/2008 4:48:59 AM PDT by csvset
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To: red flanker

Could be difficult for her unroyal lowness, her hideous heinous’s campaign to comply.

. . . kinda difficult when lying is so coupled and so automatic with breathing.


22 posted on 04/05/2008 4:58:35 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: red flanker

I don’t get what the big deal is? We’ve all seen these kinds of lies for years. Time after time these two just keep on lying and the zombies keep following and adoring them. It seem so many DBM/dems have this FOS syndrome they’ve excepted it like a badge to wear as part of their character.


23 posted on 04/05/2008 5:05:39 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: red flanker

If this were already the general election campaign we would see that Demagogues do not need their fantasies to be true, they just need the gullible and supine media to lap them up.

However, since it is to Obambi’s urgent advantage to have this story discredited, we may see more media actually take on Shrillary over it. Time for these Clintonista grifters to be run out of town, MSM! Bill the “lovable rogue” is not the candidate and Shrillary is too tired, stale, nasty, and yes, shrill, to be worth salvaging as a candidate. Time to boot her off the stage and let Obambi keep the spotlight.


24 posted on 04/05/2008 5:11:11 AM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's many 3 am phone calls will say that Bill is "ridin' dirty" with a barmaid on the DC Mall)
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To: Nailbiter

LOL!


25 posted on 04/05/2008 5:11:24 AM PDT by rabidralph (Hillary is the MSM's Bimbo Eruption.)
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To: Penny
the lying wife of a lying president, oh so eager to have a pitch, never confirmed the story.

I am so tired of hearing the Dems rants about what is wrong in America! Can't they find something good to say just once?

26 posted on 04/05/2008 5:26:45 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: red flanker

They are going to keep this up until everyone thinks lying is good thing, after all, everyone does it.


27 posted on 04/05/2008 5:39:35 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
“I am so tired of hearing the Dems rants about what is wrong in America! Can't they find something good to say just once? “

No, because telling people that they are getting shafted by ‘big business’, hospitals, doctors, big oil, racists, ‘angry white males’, the ‘good-old-boy network’, the ‘military-industrial complex’, Walmart etc. etc. is what they run on. They appeal to anger and resentment in the electorate and try to ride that to personal power. They tend to run as ‘saviors’, a role that very much appeals to narcissistic politicians.

28 posted on 04/05/2008 5:45:45 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: blueyon
I am dumbfounded that people keep falling for her tricks. There’s an old saying “Foul me once, shame on you, foul me twice, shame one me”

OMG!! Did you hear her tearing up yesterday at MLK ??? It was so PHONY....why didn't they all LAUGH???

29 posted on 04/05/2008 5:47:32 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: malia

me too.

The casual way this woman lies, the public shrugging at her lies, the willingness to make up things to advance a cause for her is just breathtaking. Amazing woman. And to take a dead woman, to lie about her death for a political point, is just, well, there is no word for it.


30 posted on 04/05/2008 5:49:13 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: red flanker
Figgers.

On a Hillie and hospital-related note, from 1997....

THE HILLARY CLINTON STORY YOU SHOULD NEVER FORGET -- Children at the Hospital

31 posted on 04/05/2008 5:49:55 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: red flanker
A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that.”

By the Clinton campaign's own admission, they "were not able to fully vet" the story. Yet they used it anyway...because, as the original peddler of the urban legend (the deputy) explained, "she liked the story."

Normal people who are unable to confirm the truth of a rumor--which is what this was--reach the conclusion it's FALSE, and stay the hell away from it. Even if one were to for one second believe they actually did try to verify the story, the fact that Hillary's vetting process didn't even include contacting the hospital or the woman's family makes her less qualified to assess intelligence materials than the editors of Snopes.

32 posted on 04/05/2008 5:51:03 AM PDT by Eroteme
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To: red flanker

note to self


33 posted on 04/05/2008 5:51:30 AM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
What is obviously important is the intent of the story and how it is representative of the plight of this impoverished nation's billions of uninsured single mothers who have been raped by savage Republican Christian men who hide behind that devil document, the Second Amendment.
34 posted on 04/05/2008 5:52:37 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: red flanker

Slander? Liebel? If you can find a lawyer, gho for it!! Now!!


35 posted on 04/05/2008 5:53:03 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: indcons

Well, maybe not this lady, but it could have happened to somebody......

FAKE BUT ACCURATE


36 posted on 04/05/2008 5:55:15 AM PDT by machman
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To: Ann Archy

This story is just another nail in the coffin,,,,,,


37 posted on 04/05/2008 5:57:10 AM PDT by RichBruer
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To: Ann Archy
OMG!! Did you hear her tearing up yesterday at MLK ??? It was so PHONY....why didn't they all LAUGH???

Glad I missed it. What did she say? 'When I was a little girl I always dreamed of being black, but they wouldn't take a "typical white" girl "who couldn't jump ..."'

38 posted on 04/05/2008 5:57:44 AM PDT by maggief
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To: red flanker

Everyones picking on poor_little_me

39 posted on 04/05/2008 5:58:31 AM PDT by MaxMax (It's not the politics I despise, It's the politicians for being so stupid..)
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To: red flanker

If I was Nita Lowey, I could make an honest claim that the media is prejudiced against Jewish females based on all this.


40 posted on 04/05/2008 5:59:04 AM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: maggief

It was HOW she said it. There;s a new thread on it.


41 posted on 04/05/2008 6:00:57 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Hey buddy!

The truth? liberals are never interested in the truth!

Reminds me of when Pilate was questioning Christ, and asked, "What is truth?"

42 posted on 04/05/2008 6:03:06 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Ann Archy
It was HOW she said it. There;s a new thread on it.

Dropping "g"s and havin' a tear swellin' time. Just bein' down home.

43 posted on 04/05/2008 6:11:21 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Cindy

OPINION: Both Mr. and Mrs. Clinton are serial liars.

Pathologic liars would be more like it. They cannot help themselves. It’s like eating chocolate or Jay’s potato chips. They cannot tell just one!


44 posted on 04/05/2008 6:23:18 AM PDT by chainsaw ( No black racist Muslims in the WH.)
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To: red flanker
If we could easily spot this as a falsehood, why did Clinton and her staff believe it? Do they not know that Medicaid is available for pregnant women? They should have noticed something wrong with the story as told to them. How can they claim to "fix" the health care system if they do not know how it currently works?
45 posted on 04/05/2008 6:28:41 AM PDT by knuthom
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To: Ann Archy
Are we sure the “crying” wasn't dubbed over from the infamous scene in New Hampshire?
46 posted on 04/05/2008 6:30:25 AM PDT by blaveda (blaveda)
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To: maggief

When I was a little girl I always dreamed of being black, but they wouldn’t take a “typical white” girl “who couldn’t jump ...”’

When she was running for the senate in NY, didn’t she say she had Jewish ancestors, that she had just found out about?


47 posted on 04/05/2008 6:31:46 AM PDT by chainsaw ( No black racist Muslims in the WH.)
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To: Nailbiter
Hillary lies exposed again.”

Hillary lies,exposed again.

The first sent shivers up and down my spine, the second was no surprise

What a difference a little comma can make. But better a shiver down your spine than a thrill running up your leg.

48 posted on 04/05/2008 6:37:06 AM PDT by Blennos (High Point, NC)
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To: red flanker
The MSM kept her "ducking bullets" lie a secret for 7 years - the Clintons are used to the "pass". She probably expected it with this lie too.

Too bad the MSM didn't have the wit to understand that credibility was their only product.

49 posted on 04/05/2008 6:40:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (The new Wall Street game: Privatize profits and socialize losses.Freeper Mad_Tom_Rackham)
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To: indcons

Maybe she’s sleep deprived because she envisions herself running around the White House at 3 am


50 posted on 04/05/2008 6:58:40 AM PDT by quintr
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