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Shuster: Penn's Advice 'Disaster,' Firing Too Little Too Late
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 04/07/2008 4:14:52 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Joe Scarborough and David Shuster came not to praise Penn but to bury him . . .

Chatting on today's Morning Joe, the host and the MSNBC political correspondent agreed that the mistake in firing the chief Clinton campaign strategist was that it didn't come nearly soon enough.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: For the Clintons, not a good weekend. Mark Penn, bounced out, my question is why now? They should have done it a long time ago. Good news, bad news?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: davidshuster; hillaryclinton; joescarborough; markpenn
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1 posted on 04/07/2008 4:14:52 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Buh-bye Penn ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 04/07/2008 4:15:32 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Apparently, nothing wrong with candidate.

Hillary just a victim of bad advice.


3 posted on 04/07/2008 4:25:02 AM PDT by Eddie01 (Freepers don't let Freepers get spun)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Not quite 38 years ago, Penn Central declares bankruptcy.

Here we are in 2008, Mark Penn is politically bankrupt and the Hiliarly Choo-Choo Train is damn near off the rails.

History does repeat itself.

I say ‘YEA for HISTORY!’ LOL


4 posted on 04/07/2008 4:25:06 AM PDT by mkjessup (Presidential Buffet Choices: "Botulism, Salmonella, or E.Coli -- iow, we get sick no matter what.")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

and Maggie William was making money helping her firm go bankrupt making the kind of loans Hillary has railed against... but Maggie stays.

We need a contest to determine who is the biggest Clintanoid hypocrit.


5 posted on 04/07/2008 4:27:07 AM PDT by rod1 (uestion)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
There is no question Hillary's campaign is a mess. Why, because you have people who only care about gaining power and they will do anything to obtain it!

What is so ironic is Hillary, for some odd reason, is attracting the 50+ year old lady vote. You'd think these people would have grown up by now and harnessed some discernment, but apparently dems completely lack any reason or judgement.

6 posted on 04/07/2008 4:33:16 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: sirchtruth

To Schuster: Whence came thou this distinction? (i.e., what the hell took you so long to notice?)

The Penn maneuver is a sham. He will be providing input without going to the office - a lot like a manager tossed from a MLB game coaches by shouting down the hallway to the dugout.


7 posted on 04/07/2008 5:08:01 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; raybbr; Tennessee Nana; Travis McGee

The MOST annoying apect of this, IMO:

Penn said he had made an “error in judgment” meeting with Columbians while working for Hillary. This elicited a comment from the Columbia honcho that Penn’s statement was an “insult” to the Columbian people.

Yeah, sure-—like all we have to do is feed the self-esteem problems of these Third Worlders wallowing in self-pity.

They screwed up their own corrupt countries, and now American are supposed to shower then with praise AND US tax dollars.

This seems to be the only way they can live with themselves-—by feeding off US taxpayers.


8 posted on 04/07/2008 5:08:55 AM PDT by Liz (I spent $60 million and got one lousy delegate. Rudy Giuliani)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Did anyone catch Lanny Davis on Fox? I missed it but he apparently went on a tirade with Gretchen...I only heard the ending when he told her they should change their tease. Gretchen dismissed him rather curtly.


9 posted on 04/07/2008 5:13:49 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
The Penn maneuver is a sham. He will be providing input without going to the office...

Hillary in full throttle mode today saying she will toss more money into breast cancer research...touching the soft spot of voters and actually trying to make people feel like she cares.

10 posted on 04/07/2008 5:14:05 AM PDT by oust the louse (Terrorists are salivating over a Clinton or Obama White House.)
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To: Eddie01

It is amazing how much bad advice Hillary gets, because everybody loves Hillary. Getting people to vote for her should simply be a matter of putting her name on the ballot. Most people have been waiting their whole lives just for the chance of voting for Hillary Clinton.

How Mark Penn can screw up a deal like that is beyond human knowing...


11 posted on 04/07/2008 5:17:04 AM PDT by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 8, 2008.)
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To: mkjessup
...Mark Penn is politically bankrupt ...

But not financially! He (his consulting firm) has gotten (according to published sources) 4.3 mil from Hillary so far and has another 1.3 mil coming! Not bad for about 9 months work if you can get it.

12 posted on 04/07/2008 5:19:23 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: oust the louse
Hillary in full throttle mode today saying she will toss more money into breast cancer research...touching the soft spot of voters and actually trying to make people feel like she cares.

Bill is ready to volunteer to do the field research...

13 posted on 04/07/2008 5:21:52 AM PDT by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 8, 2008.)
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To: Liz

I’m no South American expert but I believe Columbia is our ally and firmly against the spread of leftist power from its neighbors Venezuela and Ecuador. I would hesitate to slag Columbia in this regard.


14 posted on 04/07/2008 5:24:12 AM PDT by loungeSerf (If the theatre is on fire it's ok to shout Fire!)
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Update 8:20 AM: Why Hillary’s Hospital Story Matters

My two cents on the phony Hillary hospital story. It’s not just that she’s been caught telling another whopper. It’s her excuse that really hurts her. She claims that she was passing along a story that had been told her by a deputy sheriff.

Oh, so Hillary made a mistake by relying on . . . false intelligence? Hmm, doesn’t that undercut one of the main themes of her campaign? Isn’t this The Woman Ready From Day One, who wouldn’t make the same mistakes W allegedly did and that hoodwinked her into voting for the Iraq war?


15 posted on 04/07/2008 5:25:58 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
For the Clintons, not a good weekend. Mark Penn, bounced out, my question is why now? They should have done it a long time ago. Good news, bad news?

Nothing Clinton could have doneMSM has decided Obama is the Messiah and Clinton is getting the GOP treatment --except in her case it is the truth coming out not a bunch of distortions
16 posted on 04/07/2008 5:28:21 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob

I’m sure there’s something that they’ll be pinning on him. If there weren’t, they’d keep him. If they eleminated all of the corrupt people on their team...well, you know.


17 posted on 04/07/2008 5:29:56 AM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.)
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To: sirchtruth
What is so ironic is Hillary, for some odd reason, is attracting the 50+ year old lady vote. You'd think these people would have grown up by now and harnessed some discernment,

Like Chrurchill said "If you are a liberal after age 40 you have no brains "
18 posted on 04/07/2008 5:30:00 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Miss Didi

......Gretchen dismissed him rather curtly......

Actually, Lanny savaged her. He was obviously there this morning to have a fight. He beat up a girl.

She was not able to effectively counter his repeated demand for Fox to change the tease on the healthcare article.

Had Gretchen gotten the best of him she would have asked.....” Lanny, now that it seems clear you job as a Clinton aparatchick is soon to be over, what are your plans?”


19 posted on 04/07/2008 5:34:12 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: Miss Didi
Did anyone catch Lanny Davis on Fox? I missed it but he apparently went on a tirade with Gretchen...I only heard the ending when he told her they should change their tease. Gretchen dismissed him rather curtly.

I witnessed his tirade. I thought Gretchen handeled it with a lot of class.

20 posted on 04/07/2008 5:34:15 AM PDT by dearolddad (Opinions are like rectums: everybody has one.)
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