My Green Gasoline

Do you guys even read these articles. This is not made out of food but basically an ugly tree and a fast growing weed.

One, I read every article and comment that I reply to. I think most freepers do also, so stop insulting them, it's rude.
Two, a fast growing weed or corn for ethanol use fastly depleting land for growing food.

Stop insulting your fellow freepers, you're just making enemies. I have a feeling that's your agenda so feel free to ignore my comments.

What is often lost in these so called breakthrough solutions is historical perspective and the law of unintended consequences. The false fear of human caused global warming and the false fear of environmental damage has removed our own oil reserves from possible solutions to higher gasoline prices.

So, in our haste, we have embraced the bio-fuel ethanol and what has happened? Unintended, though predicted, consequences of higher food prices, food shortages, a move to more aggressive but not sustainable farming and all for a product that takes almost as much energy to produce it as it yields.

And, if we use it, it's more harmful to our environment than what it is supposed to replace. Even the environmental groups are coming to their senses about the impact of making and using ethanol instead of gasoline. Moreover, if we removed our subsidies, there is no way ethanol could compete against gasoline in the free market.

Even sillier, we let the government cast "big oil" as the new villain and we then accuse them of screwing us over with their high pump prices. If people would stop and THINK, they'd realize that a large chunk of the pump price is TAX! People might also realize that supply and demand are still at work, but it is government who is mostly at fault for the supply problem, not big oil or the middle east. There is real and growing competition to buy oil. Why should we buy it from others when we could pump our own? Because the government say No. As it is, we don't even get the majority of our oil from the middle east, but from our neighbors to the north and south.

And then we have to refine it. How old are our refineries? When did we build the last ones? How many pipelines? Does anyone else see a problem? Katrina hits N.O. and the east coast has a gas shortage. That's not OPEC's fault. And this supply problem is going to be solved by ethanol? Not likely. It's far more difficult to move than gasoline.

One, I read every article and comment that I reply to. I think most freepers do also, so stop insulting them, it's rude

Well excuse me as you enjoy your switchgrass sandwich(which is a non-food crop and grows on land that is not suitable for such crops as wheat and corn). JMO, with your kneejerk reactions against anything non-petroleum to get the US off OPEC oil, says to me you either work for the petroleum industry or have major stock holdings in the petroleum industry. The buggy whip manufacturers could only dream of the influence the petroleum industry now has.

Also back in the 1880's Edison had many critics that his light bulb wouldn't take off, thank God he didn't listen to his critics.

One could draw far more assumptions from your non-stop shilling for illegals, Dane.

Butimpugning the motives of other posters is your favorite tactic. Very Clintonian of you.

All I did was pointing out to rudder that switchgrass and poplar trees are not food sources and are grown in places where food is not grown.

Yes I think corn ethanol is a boondogle, but that doesn't mean you throw out the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to bio-fuels and bio-diesel.

JMO, anything that gets the US off OPEC oil is fine with me and that means more drilling, coal, nuclear, solar, hydrogen, bio-fuels from weeds and uly trees, bio-fuels from algae, etc. Just because I promote such thing as hydrogen doesn't mean I'm kissing al gore's ring, either.

And also one must face the fact that if there is a hydrogen car, the oil industry is going to lose out, and the oil industry does employ a lot of people, a lot of people have oil stocks in their portfolios, and has a lot of influence in govt.

That said I do believe that some posters do have an interest in oil and dismiss any oil alternative out of hand because of that interest.

All I did was pointing out to rudder that switchgrass and poplar trees are not food sources and are grown in places where food is not grown.

Oh, you did a lot more than that, Dane. You then turned around, in your usual snot-nosed manner, and implied that Jean must be associated with oil producers. Just like you imply that those who are opposed to illegal immigration must be a bunch of sheet-wearing racists. And it's tiresome, and does nothing but turn threads into flame-a-thons. Given how often you pull these stunts, one must wonder if that is what you enjoy - causing conflict.

Just because I promote such thing as hydrogen

Well, once we find a hydrogen mine, please ping me.

Until then, hydrogen is a energy transfer mechanism and not a source of energy per se. It might be viable to generate hydrogen by cracking it off hydrocarbons, but the hydrocarbons still have to come from somewhere. Likewise, it can be generated through electrolysis, but the electricity has to come from somewhere.

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