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School violence appalls officials/ Students **Cheer** as Teacher is Beaten!
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-te.md.ci.teacher10sapr10,0,601646.story ^

Posted on 04/10/2008 4:26:59 AM PDT by wintertime

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To: wintertime

One more example of how insipid liberalism keeps us prisoners to the most violent and anti-social among us.


121 posted on 04/10/2008 6:56:56 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: cubreporter

Perhaps *free* money is the root of all evil.
susie


122 posted on 04/10/2008 6:57:23 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: cubreporter
This horrible lack of respect is not just in the inner city schools. A friend was telling us about another friend that is a public school bus driver. We live in the 13th wealthiest county in the country. He picks up middle and high school kids in some of the most exclusive communities, 1/2 million to a million dollar homes. Everyday, many of these kids abuse him verbally. They call him a loser and make fun of him for driving a bus. They threaten him if he even tries to control them. “My daddy will sue you and the school system for every thing they have if you try to make me be quiet”

And this is the “socialization” that my home schooled kids are missing. Thank you Jesus!

123 posted on 04/10/2008 6:57:50 AM PDT by georgiagirl_pam
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To: wintertime

This, to me, is the crux of the problem and this is the president of the union speaking here of the student:

“She asked for a meeting to discuss “strategies to help students who need some kind of support because obviously they’re crying out for help,” a request that led to the formation of the task force.”

Students who beat up teachers, brag about it, and those who cheer it, film it without helping, and post it on-line are not “crying out for help”. This is the left’s endemic denial of evil even when it is beating the crap out of them. So long as all the “adults” in this situation continue to delude themselves that the offender is just a victim of society striking out in justified anger, nothing will be done. You can install cameras (and I suspect the teachers would violently oppose that move as intrusive) or you can appoint task forces up the wazoo but until people get it into their heads that evil exists and that some people are just evil, they will not take the necessary steps to control such people before they get out of hand.

I would send the beater to juvenile hall. I would suspend every student I could identify in the video as cheering on the beater. I would give a taser to every teacher and let the students know in no uncertain terms that the teacher was authorized to use it for any threatening situation.

As writers have written, the veneer of civilization is very thin and it doesn’t take much to strip that veneer and reveal the barbarian inside. The British who prided themselves on a high degree of civilization discovered this quickly after they were taken prisoners of war during WW2. In survival situations, they lost their civilization quickly and it is happening more quickly now with much less provocation.

All youth need discipline and they are not getting it. They are being excused for the most egregious behavior and they are not idiots. They realize it is a way to get things for themselves besides working for them. This girl undoubtedly didn’t begin beating people in the classroom that day. There is no indication she just suddenly and unexpectedly flipped out. She and countless others are bombs waiting to explode given the slightest chance.

We have seen what happens in emergencies these days with looting and killing rampant. We saw what happened in New Orleans and in Los Angeles after the King virdict. It happens in nearly every situation where those who lose nearly everything they own must protect that little is left from looters. Our society condones and even sometimes encourages demonstrations which too often turn into riots. We applaud those who attack others on the Springer/Williams shows. We laugh at vicious insults per American Idol. We excuse violence by Greenpeace, Earth First, ELF, PETA and all the other “high-minded” causes. We think we can play with feral behavior as if it were a trained animal to perform only when we want it to do so and then go meekly back in the cage after it gets a tidbit of food.

The schools and government are absolutely incapable of tackling this problem. Parents are too often dysfunctional themselves. I have little faith that society at large has the stomach to enforce standards of behavior. So we will turn our homes and neighborhoods into little fortresses, install cameras, arm ourselves and become even more isolated in islands of civilization surrounded by the human jungle. I wish I could be more optimistic but it would take a serious top to bottom awakening and shaking off prevalent “philosophies” about human nature to do so and I don’t see that coming. 9-11 shook us up briefly. I’m not sure anything short of worldwide cataclysm could do so again.

Rant off. ;^}


124 posted on 04/10/2008 6:58:01 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: brytlea

Yes, you are right too. If we don’t earn it how can we appreciate it???


125 posted on 04/10/2008 6:58:10 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: georgiagirl_pam

Thank you Jesus is right. Once again...it goes back to the home. I firmly believe that. Ya gotta teach your children before they leave home. I can’t imagine parents trying to change kids in high school. If they didn’t have the proper bringing up at home at an early age...how does one expect them to turn around over night? It won’t happen.


126 posted on 04/10/2008 7:00:43 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: cubreporter
They can be taught at home.

One thing is probably wrong with that theory -- nobody at home knows any more about those things than the little wild anot they begat does. What then??

127 posted on 04/10/2008 7:03:08 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: lastchance
Hell at that point I would have bitch slapped the moron then turned and said sorry “TRIGGER!!”

Lol - exactly!

128 posted on 04/10/2008 7:05:54 AM PDT by SlayerOfBunnies (An Indian friend of mine wishes to remind everyone... Indians <> muslims)
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To: SlayerOfBunnies
Why must there be good kids there?

We have the KIPP schools in other cities (just as degenerate as Baltimore) that are doing a wonderful job with kids rescued from from toxic government schools.

I expect that the KIPP schools could find good kids in this horrific Baltimore high school.

129 posted on 04/10/2008 7:09:04 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: cubreporter

There is no social problem that we face today that can’t be traced to a “liberal” policy as its cause.

Gov’t replacing the fathers in homes.
Parental authority being usurped, undermined by libs and abdicated by the parents.


130 posted on 04/10/2008 7:11:44 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Mr Rogers
There may be a church that kisses up to the NEA, but not any I’ve ever attended.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If churches cared more about their kids than the teachers sitting in the pews, **every** church in America would have a school.

Have you noticed? They don't!

131 posted on 04/10/2008 7:12:18 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: joe fonebone
A lot in the military (mainly younger) say the same thing. However, I caution them to think about whether they would like some of those guys “back on the block” in a fighting hole with them. Also, the military now has its hands tied in how far it can go to correct deficient behavior. For example, I cannot even make a miscreant private do push-ups as that is “hazing”. We are left with counsellings and charge sheets for administrative punishments. Not a good idea. Not to mention another thread today on gangs in the military.
132 posted on 04/10/2008 7:12:33 AM PDT by USMCGunnut (Be polite, be professional....but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: mkjessup
'Yo mammajammers, you be goin' to Christmas Island!'

No way, they'd ruin the bonefishing! Leave them in Baltimordor. Nothing worth seeing there.

133 posted on 04/10/2008 7:13:31 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: mkjessup
'Yo mammajammers, you be goin' to Christmas Island!'

No way, they'd ruin the bonefishing! Leave them in Baltimordor. Nothing worth seeing there.

134 posted on 04/10/2008 7:13:33 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: wintertime
My husband and I are sitting here laughing! :-) How TRUE!

This was our homeschool experience as well. It is easier to teach a child to read that many,many other things!

I'm so glad we are not the only ones to notice this! This being the case, it is really amazing how many kids leave the public screwl system unable to read. One of our 8 kids is very slow with all communication related academics. He has required a lot of extra patience and a lot of worry but he is certainly able to read. Plus he is excellent on the Baritone.

135 posted on 04/10/2008 7:20:26 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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To: DungeonMaster
it is easier to teach a child to read than to teach him/her to do the dishes correctly.

LOL.

136 posted on 04/10/2008 7:24:31 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: caseinpoint
I wish I could be more optimistic but it would take a serious top to bottom awakening and shaking off prevalent “philosophies” about human nature to do so and I don’t see that coming (caseinpoint) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It would take a massive revival back to our true Christian roots.

Unfortunately, we have people who call themselves Christian proclaiming and preaching the "Gospel of Oprah"!

I agree. I too am not very optimistic.

137 posted on 04/10/2008 7:26:30 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: westmichman
I think a ‘time out’ for the girl probably would have solved it.

Maybe when she was 2. By the time you are a teen, if your folks haven't got you under control, the penal system eventually will.

138 posted on 04/10/2008 7:27:50 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: cubreporter
. Ya gotta teach your children before they leave home.(.cubreporter .)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Government schools have, and are now, teaching behavior, attitudes, and beliefs that are **destroying** homes and families.

139 posted on 04/10/2008 7:29:32 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime

Um...churches cannot compel people to send their kids to their schools. Where I live right now, the public schools aren’t bad. We rent an auditorium for church use each week, and are probably 2 years away from having a church building. However, since most people here are happy with the public schools, I doubt a church school would get many attendees.

Not all public schools are bad. I move around because I’m in the military, and I’ve seen some pee-poor schools, and some pretty good ones. Where their kids go to school, or homeschooling, is a PARENT choice, not a church one.


140 posted on 04/10/2008 7:31:11 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Let's win Congress - the Presidency is lost!)
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