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School violence appalls officials/ Students **Cheer** as Teacher is Beaten!
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-te.md.ci.teacher10sapr10,0,601646.story ^

Posted on 04/10/2008 4:26:59 AM PDT by wintertime

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To: cubreporter
“Where are the parents? To me...if you are raised properly and taught the right and wrong of things and are taught to be respectful to others you wouldn’t even THINK of behaving in this manner” (cubreporter)
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Obviously there must be good kids in this horrible school. There must be kids with decent parents.

Why? Why? Why?...As CHRISTIANS, why arent’ we rescuing these decent children? ( Yes, I am shouting. I am exasperated!) If the legislatures aren't willing to do what is right, then as CHRISTIANS we should be doing it privately! ( With or without the help of our churches!)

By the way, I am not holding my breath waiting for churches to do what is right. There are too many government teachers sitting in the pews, and ministers are not likely to bite the hand that puts money in the collection plate.

But,,,with or without the help of churches, as Christians we should be rescuing our children.

41 posted on 04/10/2008 5:14:25 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Both English and Berry told 11 News that some school principals are afraid to discipline students so they don’t give their schools a bad mark. Berry said she was shocked by the response she received from the school’s principal after her attack.

“On one hand, she told me that she is sorry that his happened to me,” Berry said. “But then she turned right around and told me that telling a student that I was going to defend myself was a trigger word. I triggered them.”

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/15832101/detail.html


42 posted on 04/10/2008 5:14:41 AM PDT by maggief
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To: DooDahhhh

“Young LADY” is generous.
“McDonalds”? I wouldn’t want her spitting on my sandwich.
Let her pick strawberries or something similar.


43 posted on 04/10/2008 5:18:27 AM PDT by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
and lobby for mo' money.

By Wednesday, the head of the Baltimore Teachers Union and Mayor Sheila Dixon were pointing to the incident in calling for the city school system to dedicate more resources to reducing classroom violence.

44 posted on 04/10/2008 5:19:29 AM PDT by maggief
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To: wintertime

Agree but how does one go about rescuing the children? Everthing today is about money. Follow the trail of the money and you will find the root of all evil.


45 posted on 04/10/2008 5:19:44 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: wintertime
There are schools that are so horrific, abusive, and socially toxic that it would be better for a student never to step foot in them

But, but - how will the children get that 'socializing' experience? (That's what I was asked over and over when I put my daughter into a Christian school. People spit out that mantra like robots.)

Gov't Indoctrination Camps, aka, schools, have turned into Lord of the Flies enclaves.

46 posted on 04/10/2008 5:20:27 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Dr. Ursus

There will be no “next Civil War.” At the first loud confrontation, the police will issue tickets for disorderly conduct. At the first threat of a shot, charges of terroristic threats. At the first shot, confiscation of firearms. If people still want to fight after that, the govt will start taking away benefits and that should do it.


47 posted on 04/10/2008 5:20:30 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: Doneit
The community is taking care of that on it's own. Eventually, these kids will not just be beating up Teachers, they'll be Drive-by shooting each other.

Unfortunately, the process of self-elimination will inevitably result in innocent victims.

We need a Devil's Island for these misfits. Ship 'em off and let them fend for themselves under whatever 'rules' they establish for themselves.

Of course they might have trouble spelling 'rule'.

"Roool"?

Nah, that ain't it.

"Raoul"?

Hell no homey, that's a Spanish dude.

"Rude"?

That's yo Mama home boy, try again.

"RULE"?

There ain't no rules dude, hey, let's smoke dis rock and don't worry bout it.
48 posted on 04/10/2008 5:21:57 AM PDT by mkjessup (Presidential Buffet Choices: "Botulism, Salmonella, or E.Coli -- iow, we get sick no matter what.")
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To: Gabz; SoftballMominVA; abclily; aberaussie; albertp; AliVeritas; AnAmericanMother; andie74; ...

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This list is for intellectual discussion of articles and issues related to public education (including charter schools) from the preschool to university level. Items more appropriately placed on the “Naughty Teacher” list, “Another reason to Homeschool” list, or of a general public-school-bashing nature will not be pinged.

If you would like to be on or off this list, please freepmail Amelia, Gabz, Shag377, or SoftballMominVa

49 posted on 04/10/2008 5:22:20 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: rock_lobsta

“Why is this happening? NCLB, of course...”

Actually, NO. NCLB might have made a big difference in this case, Because it mandates accountability by adults who run the schools, and highlights the incompetents by taking students and eventually control of the schools away from them.

However, the City of Baltimore and Legislature of the State of Maryland, 2 years ago, subverted NCLB, which would have required a federal takeover of Baltimore’s perpetually an habitually dysfunctional and failing schools-

Why weren’t these failing Baltimore schools turned over to competent federally monitored administrators to try and undo the damage?

Because a certain uber liberal Mayor of Baltimore named Martin O Malley was positioning to run for Goevrnor and having “his” city schools taken over by the Feds would have looked BAD on his resume.

So the kids of Baltimore continue to suffer under apathy and dysfunction and incompetence and tolerance of sociopathy - and we all pay the price.

But hey, Martin O’Malley is now the Governor of Maryland and says he has a plan to fix the schools if we just pay more taxes and become more sensitive to diversity.


50 posted on 04/10/2008 5:22:42 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: MarkL; ProtectOurFreedom

In Georgia, assault on a school employee is a designated felony...it’s a shame that doesn’t appear to be the law in other states.


51 posted on 04/10/2008 5:23:44 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: wintertime

At some point in the future, it would not surprise me one bit if there was a glass partitiion between teachers and students, much like bank drive-throughs today.


52 posted on 04/10/2008 5:23:57 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: wintertime

Some people deserve no education. Throw these people out for good.


53 posted on 04/10/2008 5:24:35 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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Bump for later


54 posted on 04/10/2008 5:24:43 AM PDT by GoDuke
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To: mkjessup
"We need a Devil's Island for these misfits/"

Hell, there are a number of moves afoot to release large numbers of felons because of budget problems. The problems are growing so fast they are overwhelming the Justice System's ability to keep these types from infecting Society.

55 posted on 04/10/2008 5:26:14 AM PDT by Doneit
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To: wintertime

Is the Offending “Student” in Jail??????


56 posted on 04/10/2008 5:26:32 AM PDT by chatham
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To: Condor51
“In English - a Hell Hole.” (Condor51)
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There are some schools that are soooooo toxic that it would be better to be illiterate and innumerate rather than ever step foot in them.

Yes, I really mean it! Illiterate and innumerate would be better than having to endure going to one these “Hell Holes”.

Sending a child into an school environment like this **is** CHILD ABUSE! ( And,,,No, I don't apply the term “child abuse” to **all** government schools.)

57 posted on 04/10/2008 5:27:02 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

I think a ‘time out’ for the girl probably would have solved it.
Did I earn my public school administration stripes with that?


58 posted on 04/10/2008 5:27:06 AM PDT by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: wintertime

If legislators will not act, if they are dominated by the NEA, then why aren’t we acting privately to rescue the good kids?

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My wife, former teacher, pointed this out to me today: This is a case that shows the value of the Teachers Union. The administrator (principle) in this case said that the teacher used a “trigger word” (reported on the Today Show this morning) by saying she would “defend herself.” In other words the principle is not backing up the teacher. But the union is . . . when the beatdown went on youtube it was the union that ok’d the woman going on the media. The administrators in the schools are so craven that they don’t back up the teachers, the parents don’t, and who does the teacher have left to defend her (and there are good teachers, many, in the public schools) . . . she has the union and only the union.

I don’t usually write this sort of pro-union paen, especially about a politically dangerous and benighted and counterproductive group like the teachers union, but backing up the teachers in this sort of situation is where they have a legitimate role.


59 posted on 04/10/2008 5:27:18 AM PDT by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: cubreporter; wintertime
Agree but how does one go about rescuing the children? Everthing today is about money. Follow the trail of the money and you will find the root of all evil.

I'd qualify that as government money, as opposed to honest money. It is like a virus and almost all Americans are infected and compromised by it.

(If your kids attend public school, you've got it.)

60 posted on 04/10/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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