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American leftists were Pol Pot's cheerleaders
Boston Globe ^ | April 30, 1998 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 04/10/2008 8:01:03 AM PDT by Interesting Times

The death of Pol Pot, 23 years to the day after he and the Khmer Rouge seized control of Cambodia, occasioned long backward glances at one of the 20th century's most horrific genocides. It was noted everywhere that the communist reign of terror in Cambodia lasted nearly four years and that at least 1 million human beings -- by some estimates as many as 2 1/2 million -- were murdered in an orgy of executions, torture, and starvation.

"In the name of a radical utopia," The New York Times recalled in its long obituary, "the Khmer Rouge regime had turned most of the people into slaves.... Dictatorial village leaders and soldiers told the people whom to marry and how to live, and those who disobeyed were killed. [Those] who did not bend to the political mania were buried alive, or tossed into the air and speared on bayonets. Some were fed to crocodiles." Nearby was a photograph of human skulls -- emblem of the dreadful "killing fields" in which the communists butchered a quarter of Cambodia's people.

But nowhere in the Times story was there a reminder that the Khmer Rouge was able to seize power only after the US Congress in 1975 cut off all aid to the embattled pro-American government of Lon Nol -- and that it did so despite frantic warnings of the bloodbath that would ensue. President Ford warned of "horror and tragedy" if Cambodia was abandoned to the Khmer Rouge and pleaded with Congress to supply Lon Nol's army with the tools it needed to defend itself.

To no avail. US troops had come home two years earlier, but American antiwar activists were still intent on effecting the "liberation" of Southeast Asia. Radicals like Jane Fonda, David Dellinger, and Tom Hayden stormed the country...

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A friend just sent me this remarkable article from 1998. Few people understand what happened in Southeast Asia after the U.S. withdrew - and how American leftists supported and enabled the murderers, then lied about it after their grisly work was done.
1 posted on 04/10/2008 8:01:05 AM PDT by Interesting Times
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To: Howlin; eddie willers; cajungirl; wirestripper; Southflanknorthpawsis; Peach; prairiebreeze; ...

This one is worth a bookmark.


2 posted on 04/10/2008 8:02:41 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Interesting Times

Liberals don’t need to be reminded of their past mistakes because they’re perfectly willing to do the same thing again... and again... and again. After all, they know what’s best for all of us - and the world.


3 posted on 04/10/2008 8:11:20 AM PDT by Eurale
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President Ford warned of ``horror and tragedy'' if Cambodia was abandoned to the Khmer Rouge and pleaded with Congress to supply Lon Nol's army with the tools it needed to defend itself.

To no avail. US troops had come home two years earlier, but American antiwar activists were still intent on effecting the ``liberation'' of Southeast Asia. Radicals like Jane Fonda, David Dellinger, and Tom Hayden stormed the country, denouncing anyone who opposed communist victory in Cambodia and Vietnam. On the campuses, in the media, and in Congress, it was taken on faith that a Khmer Rouge victory would bring peace and enlightened leadership to Cambodia.

....and newspapers like the Boston Globe.

4 posted on 04/10/2008 8:12:36 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Interesting Times

Just another article proving that liberals have always been on the wrong side of history.


5 posted on 04/10/2008 8:15:21 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Interesting Times
As the death marches out of Phnom Penh proceeded, Lewis went on making excuses for the Khmer Rouge. He mused that it was ``the only way to start on their vision of a new society.'' Americans who objected were guilty of ``cultural arrogance, an imperial assumption, that . . . our way of life'' would be better.<

The American Left, and interestingly, Putin, say the same thing today.

6 posted on 04/10/2008 8:16:18 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats - The Original Slave Owners)
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To: Interesting Times

Perhaps these morons thought that the Cambodians being dead was in their best interests. After all, if they were dead they would no longer be subject to the horrors of war /sarc


7 posted on 04/10/2008 8:18:06 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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When one stops to comtemplate taking the statements of say... Al Gore or Ted Turner to their logical conclusion, how different would their “utopia” of a no-CO2 world differ from the Khmer Rouge? Large portions of the world’s population would be doomed to poverty and famine... and of course the “select” (like Al & Ted) among us would be exempt from the laws the rest of us must live by!

I’m amazed how many leftists like the NY Slimes (et al) at first praised the great socialist “experiment” in Cambodia till it became undeniable that a slaughter was taking place... then their convienent amnesia takes place... and they act as if they were outraged by the genocide all along!!!! And somehow(?) still manged to blame the U.S. for it!!!! Go figure?


8 posted on 04/10/2008 8:19:13 AM PDT by FiddlePig (truth is hard... lies are easy - http://redneckoblogger.blogspot.com)
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To: Interesting Times

Has any news organization or intelligence agency seriously investigated the “death” of Pol Pot?

His death, as I recall, was reported by the Cambodian Khmer Rouge through the Chinese Communist Party media.

A grainy photo of some old Asian guy, lying motionless on a cot with his eyes closed, was supposed to be the proof.

At the time, no one in the West seemed seriously concerned that the death of one of history’s greatest mass murderers might have been staged.

Has anyone ever sought DNA samples?

Why are we so certain that Pol Pot is not living in quiet and invisible retirement in China or some other sympathetic country?


9 posted on 04/10/2008 8:19:29 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Lancey Howard
On the campuses, in the media, and in Congress, it was taken on faith that a Khmer Rouge victory would bring peace and enlightened leadership to Cambodia.

Take careful note of what these people consider "enlightened leadership". They would do it here if they could.

Two million dead out of a seven million population is no problem to them, whether they consider it acceptable collateral damage or, more likely, a necessary sacrifice to build their "enlightened" order.

10 posted on 04/10/2008 8:20:01 AM PDT by thulldud (Insanity: Electing John McCain again and expecting a different result.)
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To: Eurale
Liberals don’t need to be reminded of their past mistakes because they’re perfectly willing to do the same thing again... and again... and again. After all, they know what’s best for all of us - and the world.

Another one of their heroes - Che Rivera (sp). As we all know, liberalism is definitely a disease. What's the definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over expecting different results or something like that.

11 posted on 04/10/2008 8:20:05 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Eurale
Liberals don’t need to be reminded of their past mistakes because they’re perfectly willing to do the same thing again... and again... and again. After all, they know what’s best for all of us - and the world.

Agreed, except that their support of the communist genocide was hardly a mistake. Our goal shouldn't be to shame the unshameable leftists, but to inform the moderates about their criminal history.

12 posted on 04/10/2008 8:20:28 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Lancey Howard
....and newspapers like the Boston Globe.

Yes. I was amazed that they printed Jacoby's article.

13 posted on 04/10/2008 8:21:07 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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Hollywood salved its itchy conscience 10 years later with the movie “The killing Fields” and the tragedy was brought home to main stream America, just like 10 years after the events in Sierra Leone, they do “The Blood Diamond” and let themselves off the hook. Looks like a 10 year lead time is needed befor these heinous events can be made into “entertainment” which is pretty much the way most Americans learn history. How long before vanguardist progressive Hollywood does Tibet or Sharia or Chavez or Chechnaya?


14 posted on 04/10/2008 8:21:45 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: thulldud
Take careful note of what these people consider "enlightened leadership". They would do it here if they could.

Two million dead out of a seven million population is no problem to them, whether they consider it acceptable collateral damage or, more likely, a necessary sacrifice to build their "enlightened" order.

Omelets... eggs...

15 posted on 04/10/2008 8:23:31 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: zeestephen
Has any news organization or intelligence agency seriously investigated the “death” of Pol Pot?

Pol Pot was a monster, but he didn't kill two million people with his own hands. You have to have a cadre of fanatics eager to slaughter for the cause to accomplish that...

16 posted on 04/10/2008 8:25:45 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Interesting Times

BTTT


17 posted on 04/10/2008 8:27:49 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
In the news columns of The New York Times, the celebrated Sydney Schanberg wrote of Cambodians that ``it is difficult to imagine how their lives could be anything but better with the Americans gone.'' He dismissed predictions of mass executions in the wake of a Khmer Rouge victory: ``It would be tendentious to forecast such abnormal behavior as national policy under a Communist government once the war is over.'' On April 13, 1975, Schanberg's dispatch from Phnom Penh was headlined, ``Indochina without Americans: for most, a better life.''

This is why I said on another thread that although "The Killing Fields" is a great movie, it made me sick at the time to watch it. Because that poor American reporter who felt so sorry for the suffering of his Cambodian assistant was one of the people RESPONSIBLE for that atrocity.

It wasn't Richard Nixon who was responsible, as the media have made everyone believe through their rewrite of history. It was the leftist news reporters and the leftist politicians and the leftist students and faculty who were responsible.

The blood of millions was on their hands, yet the movie tries to make it look as if they were entirely innocent of it.

18 posted on 04/10/2008 8:31:52 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Interesting Times
"Twenty-three years ago, American leftists cheered, justified, and denied as the communists plunged Cambodia into a nightmare of atrocity. In the end, they failed to whitewash Pol Pot's record. They will not succeed in whitewashing their own."

Unfortunately, that last sentence may be the one thing in this article that Jacoby got wrong.

19 posted on 04/10/2008 8:32:39 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: FiddlePig
When one stops to comtemplate taking the statements of say... Al Gore or Ted Turner to their logical conclusion, how different would their “utopia” of a no-CO2 world differ from the Khmer Rouge?

It's starting already. Look at how ethanol mandates have changed the price of food in just one short year, and the riots in Haiti have saved 5 people from death by starvation by making sure they are already dead.

20 posted on 04/10/2008 8:34:34 AM PDT by webheart
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To: Interesting Times

It amazing how liberals can feel guilty about things they had nothing to do with like slavery, but can’t take responsibility for things which they directly caused, like Cambodia.


21 posted on 04/10/2008 8:34:49 AM PDT by Random Access
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To: safeasthebanks
Unfortunately, that last sentence may be the one thing in this article that Jacoby got wrong.

That remains to be seen.

22 posted on 04/10/2008 8:36:20 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Random Access
It amazing how liberals can feel guilty about things they had nothing to do with like slavery, but can’t take responsibility for things which they directly caused, like Cambodia.

It's hard to hold onto that virtuous and morally superior feeling if you admit to yourself that you helped enable a genocide... so they just think about other things.

23 posted on 04/10/2008 8:38:30 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Cicero
The blood of millions was on their hands, yet the movie tries to make it look as if they were entirely innocent of it.

Exactly. The film was a pre-emptive move to confuse the public and deflect criticism of the American left.

24 posted on 04/10/2008 8:39:58 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Interesting Times

Let us also recall Noam Chomsky’s support for this murderous regime. True to form, he at first denied the slaughter, then made excuses for it, then denied that he ever denied it in the first place.

Chomsky’s a towering monument to the intellectual dishonesty and moral bankruptcy of the Left.

The blood of millions is on their hands.

Such people are unfit to live in a free society.


25 posted on 04/10/2008 8:43:15 AM PDT by Noumenon (The only thing that prevents liberals from loading us all into cattle cars is the power to do it)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping.


26 posted on 04/10/2008 8:44:44 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Interesting Times
Omelets... eggs...

While it is true that you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs, these guys broke 120 million with no omelette to show for it.

Time to rethink the recipe? Nothing doing! They wanna keep trying!

27 posted on 04/10/2008 8:44:48 AM PDT by thulldud (Insanity: Electing John McCain again and expecting a different result.)
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To: Interesting Times

They, the same leftists, are doing the same now concerning Iraq. Are they shamed by their past actions? Absolutely not!

Do we ever see pictures or reminders of 09/11/01? No! That would remind us why we oppose them and their insanity.


28 posted on 04/10/2008 8:44:56 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Interesting Times
[In The New York Times,] the celebrated Sydney Schanberg wrote of Cambodians that ``it is difficult to imagine how their lives could be anything but better with the Americans gone.'' He dismissed predictions of mass executions in the wake of a Khmer Rouge victory: ``It would be tendentious to forecast such abnormal behavior as national policy under a Communist government once the war is over.'''

This same tedious Schanberg won a Pulitzer Prize for his reporting on the horrors that followed—which his columns in the Times had been instrumental in bringing about. A Cambodian stringer who had befriended him, Dith Pran, spent years in Pol Pot's torture prisons and reeducation collectives. He survived and escaped, no thanks to Schanberg, who wrote a book about him (later a movie) called The Killing Fields—a phrase coined by Dith.

Dith survived and became a news photog. He died the other day at 65 of cancer. Schanberg spoke at the Buddhist service. I think it would have been justice at last if Schanberg had thrown himself on the funeral pyre.

29 posted on 04/10/2008 8:45:41 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: SoldierDad
The Left is demonstrating in word and deed that their being dead is in the best interests of a free society. Time they got a dose of the medicine that they've been excusing and prescribing for for the rest of us. The Tree of Liberty is powerfully thirsty these days.
30 posted on 04/10/2008 8:48:06 AM PDT by Noumenon (The only thing that prevents liberals from loading us all into cattle cars is the power to do it)
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To: Interesting Times

Liberals are communists as demonstrated by both their ideas and by the communist leaders they support; Pol-Pot, Stalin, etc.


31 posted on 04/10/2008 8:48:15 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Interesting Times
Why did the leftist academics support Pol Pot? Simple. He was one of their creations. He came by Communism the 'old fashioned way' -- in Paris.

In 1949, Pol Pot went to study in Paris on a government scholarship. It was here that he got his introduction to Communism, joining the French Communist Party. After four years of exposure to Stalinist Communism he returned to Cambodia in 1953. Within a month he had joined the Communist resistance, becoming a member of the Indochina Communist Party (IHC) which was dominated by the Viet Minh.

Source: http://www.essortment.com/all/polpotbiograp_rxdy.htm Source:

32 posted on 04/10/2008 8:55:48 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Noumenon
The Left is demonstrating in word and deed that their being dead is in the best interests of a free society.

I'll settle for "discredited." Equally effective, and much less messy.

33 posted on 04/10/2008 8:55:53 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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ping for later


34 posted on 04/10/2008 8:58:13 AM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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But nowhere in the Times story was there a reminder that the Khmer Rouge was able to seize power only after the US Congress in 1975 cut off all aid to the embattled pro-American government of Lon Nol -- and that it did so despite frantic warnings of the bloodbath that would ensue. President Ford warned of "horror and tragedy" if Cambodia was abandoned to the Khmer Rouge and pleaded with Congress to supply Lon Nol's army with the tools it needed to defend itself.

And the media still scoffs at the "Domino Theory." Sickening. Opponents of surrender only erred in underestimating the resulting horrors.

35 posted on 04/10/2008 9:00:57 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Bitsy
Another one of their heroes - Che Rivera (sp). As we all know, liberalism is definitely a disease. {Guevara}

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Obama's Texas girls gather under the Cuban flag and their other hero - Che - to advance the cause of stupidity. I mean Change.

36 posted on 04/10/2008 9:03:01 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: Interesting Times

I had to laugh...I saw this, then saw it was from the Boston Globe and thought “Huh?”

My next thought was “This has to be Jeff Jacoby...”

Sure enough...:)


37 posted on 04/10/2008 9:03:03 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Ditto
Why did the leftist academics support Pol Pot? Simple. He was one of their creations. He came by Communism the 'old fashioned way' -- in Paris.

And of course the same was true of Ho Chi Minh. From page 111 of Dr. Robert Turner's excellent 2004 paper, The Boston Manifesto:

Numerous biographies of Ho written and translated into English by Vietnamese Communists— material that was readily available to any American who bothered to do a bit of research during the war— openly discussed Ho’s role as a cofounder of the French Communist Party in 1920, his subsequent training in Moscow, and his three decades of employment outside Indochina as an agent of the Communist International (COMINTERN) promoting revolution around the world.

38 posted on 04/10/2008 9:04:03 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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‘Discredited’ would be neater and far less messy, no doubt. But history has shown us over and over again that such people won’t just shrug their shoulders and walk away. They believe that their sick dreams or utopia and the power required to make it happen are all the justification they need. They don’t give a rat’s ass what sane people think. Behind their lust for power is a murderous hatred and contempt of humankind. History is my witness.

The only way that the Left will ever “give up” is when we’re all in chains or they’re all dead.


39 posted on 04/10/2008 9:05:32 AM PDT by Noumenon (The only thing that prevents liberals from loading us all into cattle cars is the power to do it)
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To: FiddlePig; All

Not to mention their half-baked ban of DDT. Millions of people have died of malaria because of this, and many millions more have suffered needlessly as well.

All because of their half baked opinions about DDT. (Liberals and environwhackos)


40 posted on 04/10/2008 9:08:01 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: RoadKingSE

(Guevara}
Thanks. I was way off. But the facts are still there - liberals are crazy!


41 posted on 04/10/2008 9:13:29 AM PDT by Bitsy
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Elsewhere in the news, Mugabe has declared the election results a state secret; Obama’s cousin is engaged in an effort to overthrow the gov’t of Obama’s real native land...


42 posted on 04/10/2008 9:18:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: Interesting Times
Twenty-three years ago, American leftists cheered, justified, and denied as the communists plunged Cambodia into a nightmare of atrocity. In the end, they failed to whitewash Pol Pot's record. They will not succeed in whitewashing their own.

I have to disagree.

It would appear to me that the vast majority of americans have no idea of the leftist culpability for yet another 20th century communist genocide they cheered on. 

43 posted on 04/10/2008 9:40:51 AM PDT by zeugma (FedGov has no intention of actually doing anything to secure this nation. It's all a power grab.)
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Pol Pot was a monster, but he didn't kill two million people with his own hands. You have to have a cadre of fanatics eager to slaughter for the cause to accomplish that...

Nope. You just need your average person for it. Look around you. More than half the people you meet on any given day would willingly participate. 

44 posted on 04/10/2008 9:50:15 AM PDT by zeugma (FedGov has no intention of actually doing anything to secure this nation. It's all a power grab.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Americans who objected were guilty of ``cultural arrogance, an imperial assumption, that . . . our way of life'' would be better.

The truth is that it was the KR who imposed an alien way of life on the Cambodians -- one learned on the left bank in Paris by Pol Pot. In the process of imposing a Marxist "utopia" on the Cambodians, the Khmer Civilization was largely destroyed and the damage lingers today.

45 posted on 04/10/2008 9:51:45 AM PDT by JimSEA
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Nope. You just need your average person for it. Look around you. More than half the people you meet on any given day would willingly participate.

I think you're off by a couple of decimal places.

46 posted on 04/10/2008 9:55:08 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Eurale
Liberals don’t need to be reminded of their past mistakes because they’re perfectly willing to do the same thing again... and again... and again. After all, they know what’s best for all of us - and the world.

The way my one (and only) conservative college professor described the typical liberal was "Okay, so my first twenty-six ideas didn't work. But you really owe it to yourself to listen to number twenty-seven..."

47 posted on 04/10/2008 10:01:07 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Interesting Times
I think you're off by a couple of decimal places.

No sir. You are. Studies have been done on this, though not nearly enough due to the importance of the subject matter. Someone had to man the ovens, or work the killing fields, or kill millions in 'cultural revolutions'.

48 posted on 04/10/2008 10:02:13 AM PDT by zeugma (FedGov has no intention of actually doing anything to secure this nation. It's all a power grab.)
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To: Interesting Times

The mistake most leftists make is in believing that they have good intentions, and that therefore they’re going to get their rationally-willed social changes right, sooner or later, unlike stuck-in-the-mud conservatives, who clearly happily settle for yesterday’s mistaken ideas.

Why does the left believe this?

The main purpose of government-controlled public schools is to train and condition children to believe , no matter how unpleasant reality seems to be, that the authorities know best and it’s really all for your own good. Essentially, they’ve been successful.

After 12 years under government supervision, most of the youngsters believe this party line, not just the ‘left’. Why wouldn’t they? Only a relative handful of freaks, dissidents and disruptive elements act out against the system. That’s just the sad truth.

Frankly, the visible signs of teenage rebellion are useful to the system, as limited tolerance of properly-chanelled grievances can be useful to the basic party program of social “improvement”.

Get ready to be improved, or liquidated, one way or another. That’s the socialist program - finally, it’s all about who gets to kill.


49 posted on 04/10/2008 11:02:41 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: Interesting Times
Thanks for the ping. My article "Goodfellow's Bedfellows" has some relevant info in the bibliography on the Indochina Resource Center, which played a major role in influencing media coverage of events in Cambodia. I'd particularly recommend this item for well-documented criticism of media coverage of the subject:

Ear, Sophal. "The Khmer Rouge Canon 1975-1979: The Standard Total Academic View on Cambodia". Berkeley: University of California, Berkeley, May 1995.

50 posted on 04/10/2008 11:13:08 AM PDT by Fedora
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