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Warmer seas, over-fishing spell disaster for oceans: scientists
Terra Daily ^ | 04/11/2008 | Staff Writers

Posted on 04/14/2008 11:10:23 AM PDT by cogitator

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I heard or read recently that salmon fishing off California has been banned this year; I posted that Russia is proposing a moratorium on Caspian Sea sturgeon; countries are banding together to cut way back on the bluefin tuna catch; and the harvest of Chesapeake Bay blue crabs will probably get knocked way down too; perhaps a complete ban on females.

It's that time, apparently.

1 posted on 04/14/2008 11:10:23 AM PDT by cogitator
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Warmer seas? Do these clowns ever read the latest temp measurements? What loons.


2 posted on 04/14/2008 11:13:52 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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It is a shame that the global warming that IS going on, which we are not responsible for, will get all the press that this REAL problem should be getting. We really do need to take better care of the oceans. Now, if we can get CHINA to stop polluting....


3 posted on 04/14/2008 11:15:22 AM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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I guess I must be an optimistic fisherman. Seems there is still 25% of something or other out there to exploit for profit, change bait and lets go fishing.


4 posted on 04/14/2008 11:16:15 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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I was watching “Dangerous Catches” on TV the other night, and the crab and cod fishermen in the Bearing Sea were complaining how the winter of 2007 was the worst in a few decades. Also, the icecap was moving south at a faster rate than normal, cutting off some prime fishing grounds.


5 posted on 04/14/2008 11:16:29 AM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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The ocean temperatures have been dropping, despite computer models which say otherwise. Oh well, I am sure cooling temperatures are just as disastrous. Either way, we are all gonna die and it is our fault.


6 posted on 04/14/2008 11:17:21 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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Indeed. The oceans are NOT getting warmer.


7 posted on 04/14/2008 11:18:59 AM PDT by PeterFinn (Charlton Heston & Ronald Reagan - my two favorite Presidents.)
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Warming Seas? Where????




8 posted on 04/14/2008 11:20:06 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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[I]nspiration could come from South Pacific fishing communities. "They have taboo areas, coral reef sanctuaries, where fish would be saved for bad weather periods or major festivals and feast," she said

I think that if 21st century industrialized societies can model themselves after oceanic societies from the South Pacific, we'll all be better off. A little head-hunting, a little cannibalism, a little "throw the virgin in the volcano" and before you know it the human population on the planet will be down to a manageable level.

9 posted on 04/14/2008 11:20:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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Warming seas are bleaching corals, feeding algal blooms and changing ocean currents that impact the weather, and rising sea levels could in future threaten coastal areas from Bangladesh to New York, experts said.

What a crock. See this:

The Mystery of Global Warming's Missing Heat

(Enjoyable read; the scientists can't really accept the oceans are NOT warming and actually show some cooling!!)

10 posted on 04/14/2008 11:22:00 AM PDT by CedarDave (John, When will you respect conservatives the way you do fellow senators Barack, Hillary and JohnK?)
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South China Sea is not looking well these days. Could be trouble with the fish. They have to go farther out and the fish they catch are smaller.


11 posted on 04/14/2008 11:23:02 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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So the Russian trawlers will leave the U.S. coastal waters, and China will institute pollution control. Right?


12 posted on 04/14/2008 11:23:46 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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Maybe we could start feeding the fish and crabs #2 Feed Corn from the Midwest so they will grow faster and we won’t starve.


13 posted on 04/14/2008 11:24:20 AM PDT by sitkaspruce
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Just realized that it was you that posted the article. Forgot for a moment that you are FR’s biggest Al Gore supporter and Kool-Aid drinker when it comes to global warming. I’d suggest you re-educate yourself by reading some of the articles here:

http://www.icecap.us/


14 posted on 04/14/2008 11:25:13 AM PDT by CedarDave (John, When will you respect conservatives the way you do fellow senators Barack, Hillary and JohnK?)
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Over fishing for sure.

They are talking about closing Salmon season up here in the PNW too.

The other thing the article fails to mention is we have fished all the higher trophic fish down to where all we have left is the shrimp and other tiny lower trophic marine life

Haven’t had a crab season here on the Oregon coast for a couple of years.

It is all imported from Canada/Alaska and you’ll see King Crab legs.

And in place of USA prawns it is all Asian stuff and frog legs in the fish window (I don’t get that) frog legs from China.

So all the tourist coming through think they are getting local fish not.

The Indian Casino buffets have the only seafood buffet and it is nothing to write home about.

Tuna here in the PNW was shown to be actually growing in population according to the Marine Scientists.


15 posted on 04/14/2008 11:27:04 AM PDT by Global2010
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Post the SST anomaly maps again in July, so we can see how La Nina’s doing then.


16 posted on 04/14/2008 11:32:18 AM PDT by cogitator
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Sea level rise since 1994, based on global satellite measurements (radar altimetry). Main cause of this trend; thermal expansion of the oceans, augmented a bit by increased ice melt from continental ice masses.

Regarding the link; the upper 200 meters are a bit variable, as demonstrated most notably by the El Nino and La Nina phenomena. Give it time. 4 years isn't enough time.

17 posted on 04/14/2008 11:40:41 AM PDT by cogitator
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Salmon fishing is to be reduced 80 percent (I recall) off the coast of California, Oregon and Washington.


18 posted on 04/14/2008 11:41:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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South China Sea is not looking well these days. Could be trouble with the fish. They have to go farther out and the fish they catch are smaller.

That news matches the global trend. Why do you focus on the South China Sea in particular?

19 posted on 04/14/2008 11:41:58 AM PDT by cogitator
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More Chilean Sea Bass Senator Kerry?


20 posted on 04/14/2008 11:44:30 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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