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Texas defends separation of polygamist sect kids from moms
MyWay ^ | 4-15-08 | MICHAEL GRACZYK

Posted on 04/15/2008 5:15:25 PM PDT by tripod

ELDORADO, Texas (AP) - State officials Tuesday defended their decision to suddenly separate mothers from many of the children taken in a raid on a polygamist ranch in West Texas. Texas Children's Protective Services spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner said the separation was made Monday after they decided that children are more truthful in interviews about possible abuse if their parents are not around.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allsafefrompervs; allyourkidsare; belong2government; childmarriage; cult; custodydispute; pervs; polygamy; sect
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To: trumandogz
"It would appear that at least some of the mothers may have previously permitted their 13 and 14 year old daughters to have sex with 50 year old men."

That simply defies belief.

I have not followed the story enough to know where that info comes from, but it is horrifying to even consider that there is an element of truth to it.

41 posted on 04/15/2008 5:59:58 PM PDT by Radix (How come they call people "Morons" when they do not know as much? Shouldn't they be called "Lessons?)
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To: DoughtyOne

You are free to think whatever you please about the phone call. So am I. We differ.


42 posted on 04/15/2008 6:02:35 PM PDT by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult and the Clinton Machine!!)
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To: tripod
Tell me that every mother or for that most of these mothers, were malfeasant

You and I both know that's not true. The problem is that we're not just talking about mothers and children, but abusers/exploiters and witnesses. Until the wheat is sorted from the chaff we can't have the mothers who're knee deep in the illegalities influencing these young witnesses. It's just plain old common sense.

43 posted on 04/15/2008 6:03:41 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: tripod

“It is outrageous for the state to put these 400 children on cots in a coleseum supervised by total strangers. Since they are supervised why can’t their mothers be with them too?”

Because their mothers didn’t bother to protect them when they had the chance!


44 posted on 04/15/2008 6:09:42 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: sinanju

I may be wrong, but I believe we’ve found some children who were married off at ages illegal in Texas.


45 posted on 04/15/2008 6:13:14 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: DoughtyOne
IMO, it’s going to be revealed over time that supposed call from a 16 year old was fictitious. The defense is going to give the prosecution hell over it. If that is true, the judge may throw the book at some public officials

Can't happen. It's the law in Texas that every allegation of child abuse, even from anonymous sources MUST BE investigated. No exceptions.

46 posted on 04/15/2008 6:14:55 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: tripod
ELDORADO, Texas (AP) - State officials Tuesday defended their decision to suddenly separate mothers from many of the children taken in a raid on a polygamist ranch in West Texas. Texas Children's Protective Services spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner said the separation was made Monday after they decided that children are more truthful in interviews about possible abuse if their parents are not around.

Normally the alleged perpetrator would be arrested and taken to trail. Taking away 401 children from their parents smacks of Nazi Germany Fascism to me. This is a repeat of a questionable attack on a Christian sect in Waco. Just as in Waco all we read about in the MSM is alleged sexual deviance. That justifies radical action against another Christian Sect.

But what we see and learn is that we killed many innocent women and children in an unjustified and overzealous attempt to get one man. Are we doing that again in Texas, only under a Republican Administration? Is it okay to destroy the lives of 401 children and parents because we do not understand or like or approve of their life style? Who are the real criminals -- Marleigh Meisner?

47 posted on 04/15/2008 6:16:38 PM PDT by olezip
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To: tripod

It seems that terrorists have more rights than this group of citizens.


48 posted on 04/15/2008 6:21:31 PM PDT by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: olezip

There was no ‘alleged’ sexual deviance at the Branch Dividian site—— there’s many interviews from the kids (now adults) and yes, it happened (I’m not saying the other is OK). Just that the kids who survived are very damaged from what was done to them at the hands of DK.


49 posted on 04/15/2008 6:24:34 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: sinanju
I will always circle the wagons for civil liberties. Your post is the first one I have seen that trys to insinuate that the leaders of the cult were smart enough to kick this all off. I do not believe that.
50 posted on 04/15/2008 6:24:55 PM PDT by nomorelurker (keep flogging them till morale improves)
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To: elpadre

Further, if in Texas, “right to privacy” protects deviant behaviour and in Massachusetts it protects same sex marriage, then why shouldn’t it protect polygamy, just sayin......


51 posted on 04/15/2008 6:27:34 PM PDT by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: Age of Reason
Isn't all of this based on some anonymous calls from an unidentified girl/woman?

Thirteen year old pregnant girls too.

52 posted on 04/15/2008 6:28:49 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane
Sorry ladyjane no such thing as phone calls from a 13 year old. Anonymous calls from a 16 year old. Stick to the facts as at least we know them. This is a big mess we do not need bomb throwers.
53 posted on 04/15/2008 6:39:12 PM PDT by nomorelurker (keep flogging them till morale improves)
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To: prov1813man

You need to inform yourself. There are numerous pregnant young teen girls. That’s because this group believes in and forces girls to have sex with grown older men almost as soon as the young girls hit puberty. Is that what you call “polygamy” that should be legalized? Sorry, not buying it.


54 posted on 04/15/2008 6:39:37 PM PDT by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult and the Clinton Machine!!)
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To: nomorelurker

According to every report I have read there are numerous under age pregnant girls. Some are as young as 13. Are there different facts that you know of? If so, please share them.


55 posted on 04/15/2008 6:44:28 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Melas

” It’s the law in Texas that every allegation of child abuse, even from anonymous sources MUST BE investigated. No exceptions.”

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I understand there are many instances of child abuse in Dallas Tx. When will the Texas authorities sieze EVERY child in Dallas and investigate these allegations? I saw the allegations posted on the internet by an anonomous 16 year old girl, they MUST be true!


56 posted on 04/15/2008 6:44:50 PM PDT by wrench
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To: DoughtyOne
I have yet to see one single charge involving a parent and their son.

I thought most of the sons were absent (where'd they go?) from the compound, well maybe the peri-adolescent ones were, but the infant males?

I'll let you when I know (or vice versa?)

57 posted on 04/15/2008 6:45:13 PM PDT by Rudder (Klinton-Kool-Aid FReepers prefer spectacle over victory.)
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To: olezip
Normally...

IF the "abuser" is removed, children aren't "removed." Considering the children were removed from the site with their mothers, then later "separated" from their mothers due to some reason CPS (all powerful [and dysfunctional]) decided was best for the children based originally on some phone call from an alleged victim (which, BTW, would have to be recorded by law by CPS)--- considering all this, I still have serious questions about this dubious action.

Like:
Why were the photo's, notes and videos taken by the sect members confiscated by the sheriff posse?
Why the tanks?
The state of Texas is going to put them in foster care. Ummmm, the Texas news sources have been reporting for several years that there's a "shortage" of foster care homes and facilities.

This just smells weird.

58 posted on 04/15/2008 6:45:59 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (McCain: You don't have to love him, you just have to fall in line)
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To: tripod

You are obviously an unsophisticated beer drinking rube who can’t see the wisdom of the state boxing up and busing out an entire community on the basis of a single allegation. Someday, when you’ve wizened up, and the bullet enters your brain, you too will learn to love Big Brother.

Do I really need a sarcasm tag?


59 posted on 04/15/2008 6:46:11 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: All

Images show police well armed for raid on polygamist retreat

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080416/ap_on_re_us/polygamist_retreat_242


60 posted on 04/15/2008 6:49:22 PM PDT by John W (We're all gonna die!!!!)
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