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Jury wants to go home; deliberations in Boyd case to begin in a.m. (Knoxvill horror)
Knoxnews.com ^ | April 15, 2008 | Jamie Satterfield

Posted on 04/16/2008 5:36:09 AM PDT by Travis McGee

The defense in the case of an accused accessory to a fatal carjacking rested its case in U.S. District Court just before noon.

Defense attorney Phil Lomonaco sent only two witnesses to the stand, one of whom was a government witness from Monday.

The first witness was a carpenter whose sole job was to measure the distance from the Chipman Street house where a Knoxville couple was slain to the parking lot of a nearby business where an employee earlier testified he saw a car linked to Eric Dewayne "E" Boyd soon after the January 2007 fatal carjacking.

The second witness was Leesa Greer who testified Monday that she saw Boyd taking food to a vacant house where alleged ringleader of the fatal carjacking was hiding out.

Lomonaco recalled her largely to show that she had a sexual relationship with alleged ringleader Lemaricus "Slim" Davidson.

He accused her - instead of Boyd - of taking food to Davidson. She denied it.

Closing arguments will begin after lunch.

The government rested its case this morning.

"At this time, the United States of America rests its case in chief," said Assistant U.S. Attorney David Jennings.

The announcement came after graphic testimony from Knox County Acting Medical Examiner Dr. Darinka Mileusnic-Polchan about injuries sustained by Channon Christian, 21.

Authorities say Christian and her boyfriend, Christopher Newsom, 23, were carjacked, tortured and killed in January 2007. Newsom's burned boy was found along railroad tracks off Cherry Street.

Mileusnic-Polchan testified this morning that Christian suffered a slow death, suffocating inside a trash can in the kitchen of the nearby house on Chipman Street.

Boyd is accused of hiding out Davidson, who lived in the house.

Christian had been beaten with enough force to cause bruising on her brain, but the worst injuries, Mileusnic-Polchan said, were sustained in what she described as a savage sexual assault.

"It's much more than a simple sexual trauma," she testified. "It's extreme."

She said Christian was not only repeatedly raped both orally, vaginally and rectally, but that it appears an object was used in the attack.

Christian had extensive injuries in the genital region and her mouth, including the tearing of the membrane that connected Christian's lips to her gums.

She said Christian suffocated because she was placed into a forced fetal position inside the trash can as well as because of a plastic garbage bag that had been pulled tightly over her face.

"It was a slow asphyxia death," she said. "My conclusion was she actually died in the trash can."

Tennessee Bureau of Investigation serology expert Jennifer Millsaps linked brothers Davidson and Letalvis "Rome" Cobbins to the sexual attack on Christian.

Lomonaco asked U.S. District Judge Tom Varlan to toss out the case this morning, arguing that either the government had not proven its accessory-to-carjacking case or should be punished for race-based decision-making in charging Boyd but letting go Davidson's white girlfriend, Daphne Sutton.

Lomonaco made a similar claim on the eve of trial.

Jennings repeated his assertion that, at most, evidence suggested Sutton could have been an accessory to murder for allowing Davidson to stay with her after she learned of the discovery of the body Newsom.

However, murder except in limited circumstances is not a federal crime, and Jennings said there is nothing to suggest she knew about the carjacking.

"She didn't know it was a carjacking when she heard about the body being found near the railroad tracks," Jennings said, referring to Newsom, whose body was found burned along tracks near Chipman Street.

"We have to prove, to bring federal charges of accessory to carjacking, actual knowledge of the carjacking. We've proven that with regard to (Boyd), clearly, possibly, right after the crime itself."

In a videotaped statement played for jurors Monday, Boyd indicated Newsom and Christian never saw the attack coming.

Still, the young couple might have escaped the horrors that would follow but for a passing car.

"They weren't able to carjack them," Boyd recalled in a videotaped statement played for jurors. "They just, I guess, a car was coming (so they) pushed them in, right in the car, because dude was giving the girl a kiss."

Just how Boyd knew those details and more he offered up in a Jan. 11, 2007, interview with Knoxville Police Department Investigators Patty Tipton and Greg McKnight is the subject of vigorous debate between federal prosecutors trying in a week-old trial to see Boyd convicted and a defense attorney hoping to see him go free.

In addition to Davidson and Cobbins, their friend George "Detroit" Thomas and Cobbins' girlfriend, Vanessa Coleman, face state charges, including first-degree murder, in the couple's deaths.

Although those suspects implicated Boyd in the slayings and Boyd's own cousin, Nicole Mathis, offered up last week testimony linking him to the crimes, he currently is only charged as an accessory to the fatal carjacking.

To prove their case, Jennings and Tracy Stone on Monday began the day with Boyd's own words captured on police videotape and then set out to construct a timeline of Boyd's alleged assistance to Davidson in the days following the slayings.

On the videotape, Boyd insists his knowledge of the crimes came from Davidson, who he said initially blamed his brother but eventually confessed to a small role.

"He said he didn't (rape Christian) and, well, he did say he choked her," Boyd said in the interview.

A skeptical McKnight responded, "They had sex with her, but he choked and killed her? Does that make sense to you?"

"No, no it don't," Boyd answered.

DNA tests have since linked both Davidson and his brother to the rape of Christian.

According to Boyd, Davidson and the others were in a beef with drug dealers over a debt and went out on the night of Jan. 6, 2007, in search of a car. He did not explain, however, how the pair managed to travel without a vehicle. Earlier testimony suggested it was Boyd who provided the crew a ride that night. Defense attorney Phil Lomonaco denies that.

Boyd's interview with police was replete with apparent contradictions. For instance, he admitted going to Davidson's Chipman Street house. Christian would still have been alive, but Boyd insisted he never saw her.

"They had her in the back bedroom," he said Davidson later told him. "I stayed strictly in the living room."

However, he later said Davidson greeted him on the porch to warn him away and insisted he never made it past the doorway.

He initially insisted Davidson was only a casual acquaintance. But when questioned why Davidson would reveal details of the slayings to someone he barely knew, Boyd said he and Davidson spent a lot of time together.

Boyd said he had a firm alibi for the carjacking and slayings but, when pressed, could not provide the specifics he promised.

"They ain't no telling what I did," he said. "I be ripping and running. ... Walking up and down the streets of Ridgebrook, just drinking, smoking and drinking and smoking weed, that's all I do every day. I may go to Labor Ready on occasion so I can get a little more buzz money."

(Much more at the link)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: banglist; christian; christiannewsom; gangrape; knoxville; newsom; rape; tn; torture
This is one of the reasons I have a CCW.
1 posted on 04/16/2008 5:36:10 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Squantos; Eaker; DuncanWaring; hiredhand; CodeToad; dennisw; river rat; Liz; B4Ranch

Knoxville horror trial winds up. Truly a horror for the victims.


2 posted on 04/16/2008 5:39:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: wardaddy; Tennessee Nana

TN ping


3 posted on 04/16/2008 5:40:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Is it me or is the article written structurally confusing.


4 posted on 04/16/2008 6:05:59 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: Travis McGee

If I were the judge, I’d opt for a very slow, agonizing death for each member of this crowd.


5 posted on 04/16/2008 6:13:08 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Global2010
Is it me or is the article written structurally confusing.

No, it's not you.

Yesterday I thought about this.

Structure is important.

Tomorrow I'll check this afternoon note to see if it's there.

6 posted on 04/16/2008 6:14:12 AM PDT by Obadiah (I dream of the day when chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned!)
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To: Global2010

It’s not just you. This article is one of the most poorly written pieces I have ever read.


7 posted on 04/16/2008 6:22:52 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: Travis McGee
Walking up and down the streets of Ridgebrook, just drinking, smoking and drinking and smoking weed, that's all I do every day.

It's a pity there's not 'Mad Dog' rule for feral humans.

L

8 posted on 04/16/2008 6:28:26 AM PDT by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: Travis McGee
The two victims lived in one of the safest parts of Knoxville. My guess is at the wrong place at the wrong time. Meaning the killers just happen to be in an area where the couple felt safe being. My guess is Fountain City or someplace like that. The details of where they were hi-jacked has never came out as far as I know.

Where the murder occurred however has always been a rough area at least as long as I can remember and I've lived in the Knoxville area 50 years. These thugs join a list of people who have terrorized East Knoxville and were made very high profile cases. Another one was a killer named Zoo Man who raped and killed.

The two carjacking victims both died slow and painful deaths. There was no excuse for the killers act and like mad animals they need to be put down. They showed no mercy and none should be given them. Unfortunately their crime places them to where all they will get will be a needle in the arm rather than a seat in Old Smokey.

I only wish Tennessee had an open carry law. I don't have a CCW but at times when I know I'm headed to bad areas or will be out late I carry anyway. In these parts a substantial portion of the population does the same. I also sleep with a Security Six under my pillow these days. That is something I started doing recently. I live outside of Knoxville in a rural area. But rural areas are not immune to thugs either.

9 posted on 04/16/2008 6:32:49 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Travis McGee
The two victims lived in one of the safest parts of Knoxville. My guess is at the wrong place at the wrong time. Meaning the killers just happen to be in an area where the couple felt safe being. My guess is Fountain City or someplace like that. The details of where they were hi-jacked has never came out as far as I know.

Where the murder occurred however has always been a rough area at least as long as I can remember and I've lived in the Knoxville area 50 years. These thugs join a list of people who have terrorized East Knoxville and were made very high profile cases. Another one was a killer named Zoo Man who raped and killed.

The two carjacking victims both died slow and painful deaths. There was no excuse for the killers act and like mad animals they need to be put down. They showed no mercy and none should be given them. Unfortunately their crime places them to where all they will get will be a needle in the arm rather than a seat in Old Smokey.

I only wish Tennessee had an open carry law. I don't have a CCW but at times when I know I'm headed to bad areas or will be out late I carry anyway. In these parts a substantial portion of the population does the same. I also sleep with a Security Six under my pillow these days. That is something I started doing recently. I live outside of Knoxville in a rural area. But rural areas are not immune to thugs either.

10 posted on 04/16/2008 6:34:51 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: cva66snipe

Nobody who ever got carjacked, home invaded etc. ever expected it to happen. You have to be on your toes every single day. Feral humans are out there, who look at you like a piece of meat with cash in your pocket.


11 posted on 04/16/2008 6:55:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: kalee

I have to skim through most of the articles (and I can’t bear to watch any TV coverage) because it sickens me so much. But it looks like this website does a lot of cutting and pasting of articles. When there are updates, they run first, then the previous article just gets tacked on behind it. The story is so bizarre, convoluted, and vile though that even the best reporter would have a hard time keeping it all straight I think. This Jamie Satterfield seems to be doing her best.

As far as the crime goes, “horror” is an appropriate word. Brings back memories of Wichita although I never thought I would say that paled in comparison to this! It is nothing short of a war crime style atrocity. I’ve been using that term for a year now. Though these butchers could also be lumped in with modern day terrorists like the guys who executed Nick Berg.

Despite this being one of the most horrible crimes on record in this country, CNN, Fox, MSNBC et al are essentially silent on this trial. Maybe when the state trials of the rapist/murderers get under way next year it will be a different story but I seriously doubt it.


12 posted on 04/16/2008 7:27:38 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Travis McGee

Were it my friends or loved ones .........lord help em they would go slower with a lot more hurt.


13 posted on 04/16/2008 7:41:39 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.©)
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To: Travis McGee

Labor Ready needs to clean up it’s act in hiring people who are needed for temp jobs.


14 posted on 04/16/2008 7:48:56 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Squantos
Were it my friends or loved ones .........lord help em they would go slower with a lot more hurt.

I know what you mean. Sometimes you can't do it though because of the cause and effect it would have on those dependeding on you being there. I know someone I'd dearly love to beat the living snot out of. Reality though forbids it :>{

15 posted on 04/16/2008 7:49:21 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: cva66snipe; Travis McGee

As a civilian I never go armed where I wouldn’t go unarmed......:o)

Lesson taught too me long ago an only violated to save life of family , friends etc . Example: ...never used an ATM at 0300 when you didn’t have a gun and don’t if you do have one now.

Awareness is key IMHO and the firearm is 1% of my personal security plan. 1% no predator wants to experience. But rest assured that I am within arms reach of a firearm 24/7 these days......

Stay safe !


16 posted on 04/16/2008 8:00:59 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.©)
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To: cva66snipe; Travis McGee

Uncle Sugar taught me how to create accidents......(retired EOD)......a skill they will never be able to get back in the bottle.

Stay safe !


17 posted on 04/16/2008 8:03:19 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.©)
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To: cva66snipe
The details of where they were hi-jacked has never came out as far as I know.

Some of the original stories suggested they were carjacked near where the murder occurred - begging the question if true, what were they doing there? If they were in the area to buy drugs (as white suburban kids tend to do in ghettos all over the country) it puts a different slant on why the crime occurred. I had the impression intially that this was a drug buy gone bad, but stories hinting at that vanished in a hurry.

But the racially-motivated news blackout and subsequent poor reporting on this case has made it hard to know exactly what happened.

18 posted on 04/16/2008 8:13:29 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Some of the original stories suggested they were carjacked near where the murder occurred - begging the question if true, what were they doing there? If they were in the area to buy drugs (as white suburban kids tend to do in ghettos all over the country) it puts a different slant on why the crime occurred. I had the impression intially that this was a drug buy gone bad, but stories hinting at that vanished in a hurry.

Actually they could have been on their way to the mall. If they had been in the Fountain City or Broadway I-40 area to eat, shop, or something there is a short cut to the mall that would put them within a few blocks of that neighborhood. I used to work in the area about 18 years ago as a convience store night clerk and it wasn't safe then even though it's a residential area. A guy working in a store a block away got capped one afternoon. If they were near an area called North Hills, Alice Bell, or Whittle Springs, that is pretty darn close to where the murders happened. People including myself have used that route a lot of times to get to the mall.

They weren't rich kids as the area they lived in is middle class. Most persons wanting drugs in Knoxville drugs can get them a lot safer {via friends} than going into bad parts of town. That's usually the junkies who take such risk as that. I really doubt the drug deal angle to it. Sounds more like a defense rumor to try and discredit the victims name. Two of the killers IIRC were convicts from the Memphis area.

19 posted on 04/16/2008 8:29:21 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Squantos

Too many of our kids are raised PC today, like naive bliss-ninnies.

Good karma ain’t enough. 360* alertness and a firearm are required today.


20 posted on 04/16/2008 8:34:10 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

One other possibility. They could have went to what is called The Old City a restored part of Downtown to eat. It’s a popular place to go to and several best in town resturants are there. If they were headed to the mall and took Cherry Street or some back roads to get over to Millertown Pike {a short cut} that too would have placed them actually in or very near that neighborhood. The Old City area used to have a real bad name until it was finally re-developed.


21 posted on 04/16/2008 8:38:22 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Travis McGee
Too many of our kids are raised PC today, like naive bliss-ninnies. Good karma ain’t enough. 360* alertness and a firearm are required today.

Something interesting. The defense lawyers tried to say the female victim was forced to shoot her boyfriend by one of the thugs. Her dad was on TV last night and said that she had been trained since age 16 to shoot. IOW he said if she would have been handed the pistol they would still be alive and the perps dead. He was highly upset over it and I sure don't blame him.

22 posted on 04/16/2008 8:46:50 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Travis McGee

These were just “typical bitter black folks” of the type that frightened Obama’s grand mama.....

The fact this most horrific crime didn’t reach the nation’s attention to the degree it should have, proves the media’s “if it bleeds it leads” ground rule -— applies ONLY when it fits THEIR agenda.

The HORRIFIC facts of this crime are known only to the tiniest segment of society who get their news from “alternate” or “local” sources.

Compare the notoriety of this REAL crime of a racist rape AND murder, to the false rape claim against the Duke Lacrosse players... Quite different - huh? Why?????
You KNOW why!

Sadly, the feral bastards who committed this crime are far more prevalent in our cities and prisons that anyone wishes to admit..

It also points out, that in support of the complaints from Jackson and Sharpton of too many blacks in prison, there clearly are not enough being executed.


23 posted on 04/16/2008 8:50:04 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Much of the original story turned out to be incorrect. For example, some websites said their bodies had been mutilated. That turned out not to be true but the real story is almost worse. The violent sexual assaults and beating against the girl went on for hours. That the national “news” media have not said one word about this current trial is a travesty. There can be only one reason for it.

As far as how those poor kids got victimized, there is NO evidence whatever they were looking for drugs. Some morons who are sympathetic to the killers try to say they were. But they were wonderful kids by all accounts. No drugs were found in their systems. Apparently the girl was visiting her friend at an apartment complex. The boyfriend came to pick her up that night and they were together in her car. The scumbags came to that building supposedly to give money to a resident there to whom they owed money. But this accessory to carjacking who is on trial today says they needed a car, so they just busted into the car where the kids were kissing, and forced them to drive to that house of horrors where they were raped and killed. My blood is boiling just writing about it.

In any case, if they just needed a car, or money (of which they took NONE,) apparently they just committed these horrible atrocities against the victims out of pure evil and cruelty.


24 posted on 04/16/2008 9:39:23 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos; hiredhand
Good karma ain’t enough. 360* alertness and a firearm are required today.

Not just today, its always been true.

These days however, feral humans have not only lost the fear of God, but the citizenry has been radically disarmed, which lessened the fear of armed victims as well...

LFOD...

25 posted on 04/16/2008 10:13:59 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Choose Liberty over slavery... the gulag awaits ANY compromise with evil...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Travis McGee
UPDATE from knoxnews.com

Jury seeks clarity on how involved Boyd had to be
By Jamie Satterfield
Originally published 12:56 p.m., April 16, 2008
Updated 12:56 p.m., April 16, 2008

Continuing coverage in the Newsom/Christian double-murder case

A grammatical conjunction has jurors in the trial of accused accessory to carjacking Eric Dewayne "E" Boyd asking for clarification this afternoon.

Jurors just before noon sent a question to U.S. District Judge Tom Varlan pointing out Assistant U.S. Attorney Tracy Stone's closing argument, in which Stone noted that the indictment against Boyd uses the word "and" in its list of acts Boyd is accused of committing.

Stone told jurors that the conjunction ought to be "or" because jurors need only find that Boyd either assisted or aided or comforted Lemaricus "Slim" Davidson, the alleged ringleader in the carjacking, torture and slaying of Channon Christian, 21, and her boyfriend, Christopher Newsom, 23, in January 2007.

Jurors asked Varlan, "Is it and, or is it or?"

Stone told Varlan that the indictment uses the word "and" because it is a document used to put Boyd on notice of the charges he faces, whereas jurors must look to the law itself to determine whether Boyd violated it, and the law in question uses the word "or."

It may sound like grammatical minutiae, but the distinction is significant because the word "and" might cause jurors to believe the government must prove Boyd took several steps to help Davidson, as opposed to simply an act or two.

In essence, the conjunction could either increase or decrease the amount of proof jurors need to reach a decision.

Defense attorney Phil Lomonaco is arguing that the government wrote the indictment and has to live with its wording.

"It was superseded two times and they continued to use that language," Lomonaco said. "I don't think they should get any aid from the court."

Varlan is on a recess now deciding how to instruct the jury, which began deliberations at 9:30 a.m.

Among questions jurors face: What did Boyd know about the carjacking turned torture slayings of a young Knox County couple, when did he know about it, and what did he do about it? SNIP

26 posted on 04/16/2008 10:25:47 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: cva66snipe

I didn’t know that. Too bad she didn’t have a pistol, law or not.


27 posted on 04/16/2008 10:41:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: river rat

I don’t think Nancy Grace or any of the other TV true crime touts have ever mentioned this case.

Wrong template. Mustn’t stir up anger. Better this one under the rug...


28 posted on 04/16/2008 10:43:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"If they were in the area to buy drugs (as white suburban kids tend to do in ghettos all over the country) it puts a different slant on why the crime occurred."

the "why" of the crime is purely, simply, that there are savage animals on our streets.....

there is no excuse ....

29 posted on 04/16/2008 10:44:47 AM PDT by cherry
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To: river rat
"Sadly, the feral bastards who committed this crime are far more prevalent in our cities and prisons that anyone wishes to admit.."

most people know this......we can't speak about it openly, because it would be "racist" but we all know who to stay away from and where not to go....

as far as prisons go, there are too many people in prison but the really sad part is they belong there.....a lot more belong there too...

when Jessie the "the brain" Jackson starts talking about too many blacks in prison, he's right only in that too many black men are animals....

30 posted on 04/16/2008 10:49:31 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Travis McGee
Nancy and Greta have to keep the drum roll for the politically correct crimes.....like weeks and weeks of shows on ANSmith....or Brittany.....

crime in America must be sanitized....

31 posted on 04/16/2008 10:53:26 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cva66snipe

Late word around 3:30 pm ET. Boyd found GUILTY on 2 counts of being an accessory to carjacking. If society is lucky he will get 15 years. Kind of a long time for a guy who’s only 34. No more living with his mom and spending care free days smoking marijuana for a while now. Too bad there can’t be real justice though. Maybe we could send him a lot of fatty foods in prison and hope he dies young! I got that last line of course from the wretched “journalist” Julianne Malveaux, as she wished this fate on Justice Thomas.

Hard to find any joy in this. The parents of those dead kids will have to live with their agony for the rest of their earthly lives. But at least for now some small justice has been done.


32 posted on 04/16/2008 12:42:07 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: cherry

If it doesn’t fit the liberal MSM PC template, it didn’t happen.


33 posted on 04/16/2008 1:20:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

It’s got to be one of the most horrible crimes in modern history yet they are silent. Apologists for the media and the PC left say “but CNN did do a story!” Yes, 11 months ago, and 4 months after the crime, and probably because of pressure from bloggers and irate viewers.

This Boyd trial had everything the cable nets usually would want to cover. Twists and turns, intrigue, shocking revelations, and questions about the guilt of people on the stand and others who gave testimony. Next year’s trials of the rapist/murderers might be a bit more open and shut but maybe not. In any case I expect “them” to remain silent again. Just imagine if the circumstances were different though....


34 posted on 04/16/2008 1:26:41 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: TNCMAXQ

Normally when a pretty blonde is murdered, Nancy and Greta are all over it, as in frequent flier points to Aruba.

But only if the alleged perps are white too.

Black on white crime? “Don’t go there!”


35 posted on 04/16/2008 1:33:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee
"They ain't no telling what I did," he said. "I be ripping and running. ... Walking up and down the streets of Ridgebrook, just drinking, smoking and drinking and smoking weed, that's all I do every day. I may go to Labor Ready on occasion so I can get a little more buzz money."

Excuse me?

36 posted on 04/16/2008 1:39:13 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: TNCMAXQ
Late word around 3:30 pm ET. Boyd found GUILTY on 2 counts of being an accessory to carjacking. If society is lucky he will get 15 years. Kind of a long time for a guy who’s only 34. No more living with his mom and spending care free days smoking marijuana for a while now. Too bad there can’t be real justice though. Maybe we could send him a lot of fatty foods in prison and hope he dies young! I got that last line of course from the wretched “journalist” Julianne Malveaux, as she wished this fate on Justice Thomas. Hard to find any joy in this. The parents of those dead kids will have to live with their agony for the rest of their earthly lives. But at least for now some small justice has been done.

This is a federal conviction which means state parole board politics is out of it and IIRC he'll being doing most if not all of the time sentenced. Federal appeals are also harder to come by meaning maybe it will stick. I didn't think he would get a Not Guilty around here Knoxville isn't Memphis meaning it's far more Conservative.

The parents will never get over it. I hope him and his other animal friends see their two faces nightly coming after them tormenting their ever minute they try to rest. These murderers are no better than Manson and in some ways even worse.

37 posted on 04/16/2008 1:52:55 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: TNCMAXQ
BTW do you remember the Job Corp killing here? A girl and a guy killed a girl and carved a Pentagram in her skill. The girl is trying for an appeal and she's on Death Row if I remember right. Then there was the four idiots who tossed a rock off an overpass on I-75 and killed a woman below. Another bad one was east of Knoxville. An entire family except for a small boy were murdered in cold blood by teenagers at a rest area. The pictures of those kids looked like something out of Satan's yearbook. The kids were from Kentucky and I think they finally caught them trying to enter Mexico.
38 posted on 04/16/2008 2:34:16 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: cva66snipe

Since I have been going to the Knoxnews site for info about the Jan ‘07 atrocity I have been reading about some of the other crime in that area and there seems to be an awful lot of it. Those other situations you mentioned also were awful.

So far half way into the Nancy Grace show all she is talking about are these polygamist sect people. Give it a break, I say. Then on the CNN crime site there is zip about the Knoxville case. They mention plenty of other gruesome crimes but not that one. Not PC enough for them I guess.


39 posted on 04/16/2008 5:37:07 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: TNCMAXQ

The family killed was named Lillelid. A husband, wife, daughter, and son, all shot. Only the young boy survived it. A senseless cold blooded killing 11 years ago by some gothics. The family had been to a church function {Jehovah Witness Convention?} I think out of town and were headed back home to Knoxville. They stopped at a rest area and were approached by the kids and taken to a side road. The story is the Lillelid’s had one thing in mind and the killers quite another. I can’t find the killers pictures now but it would give you the creeps.


40 posted on 04/16/2008 6:21:22 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Squantos
As a civilian I never go armed where I wouldn’t go unarmed

Well put. I carry daily, but I'm totally put off by macho idiots who insist that they're ready for the ---- to come down. I'm not. I'm as prepared as I can be, but I'm well grounded in the knowledge that sometimes the good guys lose, even when they're armed.

41 posted on 04/18/2008 3:22:54 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Melas

Agree 100%...... As a retired serviceman and former deputy I understand that there are folks that prey on others. I carry for the protection of me and mine. With that in mind I am obligated to walk away from heated aggressive arguments to deescalate a situation if at all possible. A last resort , no way to run away from a threat, no way too let the threat depart, no cover available and all other options eliminated I will shoot too stop the threat if at all possible.

Woof !


42 posted on 04/18/2008 8:10:22 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.©)
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