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Islam Is a Trojan Horse
The New Media Journal ^ | April 18, 2008 | Amil Imani

Posted on 04/18/2008 7:24:40 AM PDT by vietvet67

“Europe will be Muslim in a dozen years,” promises the Islamic Republic of Iran’s Supreme Guide (dictator) who is racing full-speed ahead to make as many bombs as possible with long-range missiles capable of delivering their payload anywhere in the world.

This past Friday, Yunis al-Astal, a leading Muslim cleric and Hamas member of the Palestinian parliament, declared on Hamas' Al-Aqsa TV that "the capital of the Catholics, or the Crusader capital," would soon be conquered by Islam and Rome become an advance post for the Islamic conquests, which will spread through Europe in its entirety, and then will turn to the two Americas.”

The Islam hydra, with Saudi Arabia and the oil-money bloated Emirs and Sheiks of the Persian Gulf leading the Sunni charge from one side and the end-of-the-worlder bomb-seeking Shiite of the Islamic Republic of Iran with its proxies of Hamas, Lebanon Hezbollah and the Sadrists in Iraq closing from the other side will devour the free world.

Free people: are you listening?

Free people: do you care?

Free people: are you doing anything?

Disguised as religion, Islam has penetrated the democracies with the aim of replacing civility and liberty with the barbarism of theocracy and Sharia. Islam’s multi-prong attack aims to destroy all that liberty offers.

It is generally assumed that religion addresses issues of importance to daily life as well as matters that transcend it. Religion claims to exercise a civilizing influence by ordering the social life and promoting spirituality, as well as advancing an array of human virtues. Zoroaster, for instance, based his faith on the triad of goodly thoughts, goodly speech and goodly deeds. Moses framed the fundamentals of his faith in the Ten Commandments, and Jesus placed love at the core of his faith.

Yet, all is not well with religion. Purveyors of some religions advocate and promote ideas and practices that are harmful to the general well-being of mankind. It is imperative that a society institutes measures that guard against any and all organizations and ideologies, be they religious or otherwise that harms it.

As things stand now, our lives are governed by numerous boards at all levels of government, business, and community. All these boards are charged with the responsibility of looking after the welfare of the people they serve. The Food and Drug Administration, for instance, must pass on the safety and quality of the food we eat; the Aviation Safety Board works to ensure safe flights; a local school board strives to create the environment that best serves the education and safety needs of the pupils. Every community and business of any size is served by boards.

There are, however, no oversight boards that would check against things that contaminate the mind and present a clear threat of unraveling our democracy’s social compact as we know and cherish it. Shouldn’t these dangers to our beliefs and way of life be monitored and combated or should they be given a pass to work their damage?

Presently, America is faced with a formidable enemy in a Trojan horse called Islam. This imminent danger makes it imperative to revisit the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and make the necessary changes to legally defeat Islam’s subversion of the democratic system.

Muslims in Western democracies, most of them escapees of the misery of Islamic countries, exhibit such incredible gall and audacity as to shamelessly demand that their benevolent hosts surrender their liberty and legalize and adopt the Sharia in their societies.

The Muslims’ presence in countries such as Canada, Great Britain, the Netherlands and Sweden represents the tip of the sword of the Islamists protruding from the Trojan horse.

Once Sharia is recognized to any extent, it will reach out to rule, not only on matters that concern Muslims, but also those that may involve a Muslim and non-Muslim. Under Sharia, a Muslim man married to a non-Muslim woman is able to divorce the woman at will and automatically have custody of the children.

America, with a long history of protecting religious freedom, still clings to the “hands off” practice of leaving alone any doctrine or practice billed as religion. A thorny problem is in deciding what constitutes a religion and who is to make that call. The dictionary supplies a sociologically useless definition for religion: “The expression of man’s belief in and reverence for a superhuman power recognized as the creator and governor of the universe.” Just about anyone or any group under this definition can start a religion, and they indeed do—and some do so at significant costs to others.

Islam was birthed by primitives of some 1400 years ago and over time invaded much of the world at the point of the sword. Presently, Islamists, with their treasuries flush with petrodollars, are in a great position to realize their perennial dream of bringing the world under the rule of Muhammad’s Ummeh.

On the one hand, Pakistan is already a nuclear power and the Islamic Republic of Iran aims to be one before very long. On the other hand, Muslim governments and wealthy Sheikhs are funding Islamic schools, centers and front organizations in the West to work from within at the unraveling of the non-Islamic democratic systems. In a parallel attack, the “Legal Islam” is exploiting every provision of the law in free societies to promote Islam and silence its critics through expensive legal shenanigans.

Islam is incompatible with democracy and subversive of the way of life that blesses this nation. It is imperative that we fight Islamofascism with the same determination that we fought other enemies of freedom such as Nazism, Fascism, and Communism. It is, therefore, imperative that the Constitution be revisited in such a manner that it no longer grants a pass to any cult simply calling itself a religion.

Bluntly speaking, no one can be a faithful Muslim and an American at the same time. As more and more Muslims arrive in non-Islamic lands, as they reproduce with great fecundity, as they convert the disenchanted and minorities, and as petrodollar-flush Muslims and Muslim treasuries supply generous funds, Muslims gather more power to undermine the democratic rule.

The hydra of Islam is lashing out by its jihadists, sophisticated and well-funded lawyers, terrorist groups, and terror-sponsoring governments who have the bomb and those that are racing non-stop to acquire the ultimate weapon. There is no time to waste. Steadfastly confronting Islam is the only way to defeat a fanatical enemy who does not believe in negotiation or compromise. For Islam, it is winner take all. And the way that permissive, oblivious, and well-meaning free societies are reacting does not bode well for liberty.

Islam must be recognized for what it is: a Trojan horse carrying in its belly what will assuredly slaughter all who stand everything that is precious to free people.

Amil Imani is an Iranian-born American citizen and pro-democracy activist residing in the United States of America. Imani is a columnist, literary translator, novelist and an essayist who has been writing and speaking out for the struggling people of his native land, Iran. He and his family escaped Iran after the radical Islamic revolution. He maintains a website at www.amilimani.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clashofcivilizations; crushislam; dhimmitude; eurabia; hamas; iran; islam; muslims; sharia; turkey; wakeup; yunisalastal
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1 posted on 04/18/2008 7:24:41 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: vietvet67
Europe may be Muslim, but the Middle East and China will be Christian. There are 100 million christians in China, and sooner or later, a new leader will emerge who will repudiate Mao and proclaim Jesus as Lord (like Constantine in 313 A.D.).

there are 6 million Muslim ARABS converting to Christianity every year. The emptiness and vacuousness of Islam will implode upon itself like Communism did in Russia and Eastern Europe.

Islam is destined for the scrap heap of history.

2 posted on 04/18/2008 7:30:18 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: vietvet67

Trojan horse. Very good description of Islam.


3 posted on 04/18/2008 7:38:35 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Travis McGee
Someone's been reading your posts, Trav.
4 posted on 04/18/2008 7:40:49 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: vietvet67
Islam Is a Trojan Horse

Unfortunately, the civilized have trouble imagining the state of mind of the barbarous; as a consequence, they impute to the barbarous the good intentions that define the civilized. Once the bad intentions of the barbarous become perfectly clear, it's almost always too late to prevent conflict.

There will be much more blood.

5 posted on 04/18/2008 7:46:19 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: vietvet67
Muslims in Western democracies... adopt the Sharia in their societies.

Changing a few words around:

Liberals in "red" states, most of them escapees of the misery of "blue" states, exhibit such incredible gall and audacity as to shamelessly demand that their benevolent hosts surrender their liberty and legalize and adopt globull warming, bigger government, abortion "rights", anti-defense gun laws, "undocumented" workers with drivers licenses, and Homomarriage in their societies.

{Speaking from the commonwealth of MA}

6 posted on 04/18/2008 7:47:06 AM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

I hope you are right, and in the long term, I believe that you are. It’s the “shorter” term that worries me. Islam is like the Borg in Star Trek. It will assimilate you if you are not a whole lot more guarded than Western Civilization is presently.


7 posted on 04/18/2008 7:48:37 AM PDT by badbass
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To: MuttTheHoople

Amen to that!!!!


8 posted on 04/18/2008 7:58:22 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: vietvet67
Sadly, European governments (not necessarily their citizens) enforce "tolerance" over freedom. Because European governments are dominated by liberals, they're more interested in securing the approval of The Iranian Pipsqueak than securing the liberty of their own citizens. Another poster said "there will be much blood." This is true; non-Muslim Europeans will have to suffer extensively under Shari'a before they truly comprehend the threat to their very lives.

On a positive note, this whole take-over-the-world threat is about as believable as the James Bond villains of the same cloth. All you have to do is look where Muslims dominate their local governments; there's constant misery, ethnic strife, mini-civil wars, poverty, etc. In other words, a 10,000 B.C.-style of living. These bozos can't even get running water & food in the Gaza strip. Somehow, they're "qualified" to RULE THE WORLD? Yeah, right. They're as qualified as Ears or Cackle to be President.

9 posted on 04/18/2008 7:59:16 AM PDT by kromike
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To: knighthawk

ping


10 posted on 04/18/2008 8:07:46 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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To: Right Wing Assault

ISLAM is not a RELIGION; it is an invasion !

I do not fear islam, I despise it. I despise all that it stands for. I despise it’s practitioners and its goals. I despise its false prophet, and the culture of death that he and his followers have spawned.


11 posted on 04/18/2008 8:11:07 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: Joe Brower; knighthawk
"Radical Islam is an insane murder cult, moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West."
12 posted on 04/18/2008 8:13:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: vietvet67

Paging Mr. John Sobieski... phone call for Mr. Karl Martel...


13 posted on 04/18/2008 8:33:53 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (Universal constants: n+0 = n; m*c^2 = e; mullet + jean shorts = Univ. of Florida Gators fan)
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To: vietvet67
Free people: are you listening?

No.

Free people: do you care?

No.

Free people: are you doing anything?

No.

It would take 3 more 9/11s to wake-up America. And even then, 1/3 of the country wouldn't care. Prosperity can be deadly.

14 posted on 04/18/2008 8:51:16 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Trojan horse. Very good description of Islam.”

An even better description of Obama Hussein Barack, IMO.


15 posted on 04/18/2008 9:08:53 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: dennisw; watchin; VOA; timestax; xJones; justshutupandtakeit; TopDog2; ThomasMore; Publius6961; ...
Muslim governments and wealthy Sheikhs are funding Islamic schools, centers and front organizations in the West to work from within at the unraveling of the non-Islamic democratic systems

Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

16 posted on 04/18/2008 1:57:57 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Travis McGee

Sound familiar?


17 posted on 04/18/2008 2:16:45 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Bitter, Gun-totin', Typical White American)
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To: vietvet67
I don't have to look any further than Matthew (7:15-20):

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

18 posted on 04/18/2008 2:34:05 PM PDT by Species8472 (If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing)
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To: vietvet67

BTTT


19 posted on 04/18/2008 2:54:42 PM PDT by dennisw (Superior attitude. Superior state of mind --- Steven Segal)
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To: vietvet67

shari’a bump


20 posted on 04/18/2008 7:37:13 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee

From the article:
“Islam is incompatible with democracy and subversive of the way of life that blesses this nation. It is imperative that we fight Islamofascism with the same determination that we fought other enemies of freedom such as Nazism, Fascism, and Communism. It is, therefore, imperative that the Constitution be revisited in such a manner that it no longer grants a pass to any cult simply calling itself a religion”

From Joe Brower:
“Someone’s been reading your posts, Trav.”

I think he’s been reading MINE, as well: :)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1978888/posts?page=76#76

This is one of several postings I have previously written on this touchy subject.

But - if we truly wish to survive - eventually, changing the Constitution to prohibit the practice of Islam in America MUST be considered. There is no other choice. As it currently stands, the Constitution will provide advancing Islam with the ammunition it needs to destroy us.

I wish this weren’t so. But it is.

- John


21 posted on 04/18/2008 9:11:39 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman

It’ll take time, but we’ll get there.


22 posted on 04/18/2008 9:43:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: vietvet67; All; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 4woodenboats; 2ndDivisionVet; 5Madman2; 68skylark; ...

URGENT! The bigger picture includes Turkey (read at link below)

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2008/04/fethullah-gulen-turkeys-khomeini-about.html

And Egypt is sliding ever faster into Islamic governance oblivion as we speak.


23 posted on 04/18/2008 10:56:28 PM PDT by FARS
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To: FARS

Have you access to any reliable numbers of how many have been killed in Algeria and Morocco for not being muslim enough?

I’ve heard numbers ranging from the 10s of thousands but those were just loose estimates.

We’re also seeing agitation in South East Asia as Malaysia and Indonesia pump jihadis into southern Thailand and elsewhere.


24 posted on 04/19/2008 12:58:01 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: vietvet67; All

Islam is a Trojan puppet master’s tool of a massively evil and virulently hideous army of ruthlessly brutal death dealing, demon crazed clueless idiots hell-bent on destroying all that’s civil, sane, democratic and particularly Christian.


25 posted on 04/19/2008 3:12:32 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Islam is destined for the scrap heap of history.

= =

True. Though it may well be that the globalists and satan their boss have scheduled Islam to destroy every other religion and then to be replaced by pure satanism worshipping the global ruler, satan incarnate as Scripture indicates.


26 posted on 04/19/2008 3:13:37 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: vietvet67
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27 posted on 04/19/2008 4:32:10 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: FARS

I don’t know if an Islamic revolution could work in Turkey. It might backfire and result in a purging of Islamicists.


28 posted on 04/19/2008 4:59:15 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Fishrrman; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; FARS; Convert from ECUSA
"But - if we truly wish to survive - eventually, changing the Constitution to prohibit the practice of Islam in America MUST be considered. There is no other choice. As it currently stands, the Constitution will provide advancing Islam with the ammunition it needs to destroy us."

Someone explain to me the difference between the teachings of Mohammed, and the teachings of that infernal serial killer the 'Reverend' Jim Jones?

I'll make it easy here:

The teachings of Jim Jones didn't kill as many people.

And the moral difference between Islam and the once vaunted 'People's Temple'?

None. Absolutely NONE.

The Constitution should be amended to ban ANY religion that compels it's adherents to murder the innocent.

Hint: Christianity ain't one of them.
29 posted on 04/19/2008 5:58:12 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: mkjessup

Any ideology that demands our own culture be destroyed and replaced by itself or something else should not even have coverage under the 1st Amendment anyway.

I do not believe the Bill of Rights was ever intended to provide cover and protection for blatant sedition.


30 posted on 04/19/2008 6:15:13 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: MuttTheHoople

I wish you were right my friend but I don’t see it as so .Islam is making HUGE in roads in the USA and the liberals are helping them along just nicely.


31 posted on 04/19/2008 6:21:17 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: Grimmy

As I see it FRiend, the universal right of Self Defense trumps all other rights, and the Islamic hordes may yet come for us infidels, but I’ll make sure as many of them eat lead and are dispatched to Hell before I die.


32 posted on 04/19/2008 7:50:10 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: mkjessup

Amen.

Semper Fi
and Ad Triarios Redisse!


33 posted on 04/19/2008 7:57:13 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

You and me, Sysstratiootès !


34 posted on 04/19/2008 10:02:00 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: mkjessup; All; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 4woodenboats; 2ndDivisionVet; 5Madman2; 68skylark; ...

TEXT OF AMENDMENT FOR A REVISED CONSTITUTION deals with your comments about Islam’s role.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2007/02/proposed-constitutional-amendment.html

If ever Iran emerges from the clutches if the Ayatollahs, the new Consitution MUST state that Islam is NOT the official State/National religion. In fact that there is NO national religion and ALL religions are to be accepted equally.

Not secularism, just equal respect to avoid domination by Islam. Wishful thinking? Perhaps. A mainstay of a solution for stability? Absolutely.


35 posted on 04/19/2008 10:02:25 AM PDT by FARS
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To: FARS
What is the food situation of Iran these days? Does it heavily depend on import to meet food demand?
36 posted on 04/19/2008 10:10:40 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: FARS

Jesus will return first and all nonChristian persepctives will have been consigned to their place of origin.


37 posted on 04/19/2008 10:21:03 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

Amen to that!

Every Muslim’s knee will bow (along with everyone else on Earth) and confess that ‘Jesus Christ is LORD!’, and every Islamic mosque will be converted into public latrines, and the King of kings and Lord of lords will rule from Jerusalem *exactly* as Scripture has stated, and we will rejoice and celebrate the one and only Theocracy that is Fair, Just and True.


38 posted on 04/19/2008 10:46:36 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: mkjessup

and the King of kings and Lord of lords will rule from Jerusalem *exactly* as Scripture has stated, and we will rejoice and celebrate the one and only Theocracy that is Fair, Just and True.

= = =

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


39 posted on 04/19/2008 10:51:12 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; All; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 4woodenboats; 2ndDivisionVet; 5Madman2; 68skylark; ..

If you have money everything is available in any quantity you want BUT food and rent prices have sky-rocketed for basics where it takes THREE jobs a day per family member to cover costs of rent, utilities, transportation and food for the average person. A single tomato can sometimes cost 10% of a daily salary!

Exacerbating the situation is the Islamic government fails to pay factory and office workers their salaries for as long a nine months at a time. So foraging for bits of bread and food in garbage bins has become an imperative necessity for survival even for families with an employed bread winner!

Many families send people to garbage dumps to wait for arriving garbage trucks and try to sift out anything they can eat or use. Photos of this exist.

The female members of families are consumers but cannot contribute to revenues as jobs are mostly tailored/acceptable for men and in VERY short supply for men, so women, wives and daughters, have to turn to prostitution to bring in money. Or to sit and beg for alms in the streets along with HALF A MILLION homeless children striving to survive a harsh life — in Tehran alone!

Life pressures have turned about 30% of the men into drug ADDICTS and another 20% into drug users to try to ease their misery and hoplessness.

Browse around on AntiMullah.com and the SEVEN Linked sub-pages for photos and articles on this and related challenges in Iran.


40 posted on 04/19/2008 11:14:40 AM PDT by FARS
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Food is mostly imported, yes. Agriculture has suffered badly through mismanagement and is no longer sufficient to feed the people even in many farming communities. Partly because of insufficient water availability with a poor maintenance of the Qanats (underground water streams that require regular removal of silt).

Look at AntiMullah postings on Egypt. (News Views? World Views?) That’s a similar problem with different givens.


41 posted on 04/19/2008 11:24:01 AM PDT by FARS
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To: FARS
Bump for later read. Good stuff, FARS; thanks.


42 posted on 04/19/2008 11:51:35 AM PDT by Lady Jag ( I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra - https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: vietvet67
Free people: do you care?

Sadly enough for the most part, no.

Caring takes personal thought and effort...

43 posted on 04/19/2008 12:47:51 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Does it heavily depend on import to meet food demand?

Do the people of Iran consume Ethanol?

44 posted on 04/19/2008 12:50:42 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: FARS

Your ping list might enjoy this mocking - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2004114/posts?page=1


45 posted on 04/19/2008 3:44:17 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: mkjessup
Standing by to Stand-To! Not exactly safe for work, or maybe even polite company, warning.
46 posted on 04/19/2008 8:12:55 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


47 posted on 04/19/2008 9:10:02 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: FARS

Such is the way of governments that do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour. The Islamic peoples are enemies of Israel and sorrowfully are enemies of God and His Christ. All governments and religions that do not beleive the truth of the God of Israel and His Christ are subject to the powers of darkness and walk in the ways of Lucifer, the prince of the power of the air.


48 posted on 04/20/2008 5:15:39 AM PDT by kindred (I am now a third party conservative, GOP be damned.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

(Islam is destined for the scrap heap of history.)

Indeed, when the God begins the 7 year tribulation, the following 1000 year rule of Jesus Christ on earth will follow when the nations of the world go up to the mountains of Israel to destroy Israel led by the antichrist, and God in the person of Jesus Christ will return and destroy them and leave but one of six to return to their nations to tell them how that God is indeed with Israel.


49 posted on 04/20/2008 5:19:16 AM PDT by kindred (I am now a third party conservative, GOP be damned.)
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To: MuttTheHoople
there are 6 million Muslim ARABS converting to Christianity every year.

Can you provide a reference for that? That's a pretty exciting concept.

Islam will die one day, but only at the hand of Messiah Himself. Islam will be THE last days religion that attempts to rule the world, IMO.

50 posted on 04/20/2008 5:51:04 AM PDT by agrace
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