Tancredo to pope: Stop promoting amnesty

World Net Daily ^ | April 18, 2008 | unknown

[BGHater]

Nasty, hardly.

Any foreign leader, aka the Pope, can go away. I don’t give a dam what some foreign leader tells me, or tells what our country should do.

America, is the most generous country. Especially when it comes to immigration and welfare.

[FreeReign]

That is an idiotic statement. If they are Catholics in Mexico then they are Catholics wherever they go.

Here's another idiotic statement from the article.

"There is definitely a particular interest on the part of the Catholic Church that derives from the fact that the majority of illegal immigration into the country is from Catholic countries," Martin said. "It helps fill the pews, it helps fill the coffers, it helps fill the recruits to the priesthood."

[buccaneer81]

huh?

Are you not ripping Tancredo as a "nasty little man?" I consider him a patriot.

And as a Catholic who supports quite a few of the Pope's opinions, I am offended as an American that he may even TRY to dictate our immigration policies.

[mimaw]

The Pope is not a foreign leader. He is the leader of the Roman Catholic Church.

[vox_freedom]

I’m sure Tancredo will get a ton of flak for this, but he’s right.

Pope Benedict XVI said, "everything possible to fight ... all forms of violence so that immigrants may lead dignified lives."

So you -- and Tancredo -- don't think that immigrants should be protected from violence and allowed to live "dignified lives"? If you don't, you are both wrong.

[RepublitarianRoger2]

Sorry, but any post that amounts to nothing more than an argumentum ad hominem doesn’t carry any weight with me.

[mimaw]

Tancredo is a nasty little man and a one note Charlie. He's a bore.

[buccaneer81]

The Pope is not a foreign leader.

Read a book. Vatican City is the world's smallest sovereign nation at 108 acres. It is recognized diplomatically by 141 nations. The Pope is the head of state.

I reiterate: I am a Catholic.

[buccaneer81]

He's a bore.

Indeed? From your posts, all I can assume is that you are frighteningly ignorant.

[beezdotcom]

So you -- and Tancredo -- don't think that immigrants should be protected from violence and allowed to live "dignified lives"? If you don't, you are both wrong.

For ILLEGAL immigrants, that protection is best achieved by discouraging them from breaking those laws that make them easy targets of coyotes and cheap-labor scofflaws.

[mimaw]

The Pope is not a political leader. Shots taken at the Pope by a disgruntled ex Catholic or anti Catholics hold no water with me.

[buccaneer81]

The Pope is not a political leader.

LOL! Really? Perhaps you should pose that position to former General Jaruzwelski of Poland (1980-1982), or Soviet presidents Brehznev, Andropov, Cherneko and Gorbachev.

As I said before, read a book. You're making a fool of yourself here.

[AHerald]

And when the Church, as she does, similarly promotes just immigration policies for Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, and so on, what venal self-interested motivation would Tancredo accuse the Church of then?

The Church holds these teachings for all immigrants everywhere, regardless of their faith.

Tancredo and all who raise this charge against the Church are spectacularly ignorant of Church history and teaching on this subject. The issue, from the view of the Church, is the human dignity and social justice due to all men, not the Catholicity of immigrants.

[puppypusher]

The Pope Is also the head of a State.That state is Vatican City.The U.S. Recognizes the Vatican the same way we recognizes any foreign country.The Pope is their Head of State.

[Regulator]

Gotta luv Tommy

He's fearless

[buccaneer81]

Tancredo and all who raise this charge against the Church are spectacularly ignorant of Church history and teaching on this subject.

The Church is spectacularly ignorant of America and freedom as we accept it.

I speak as a Catholic.

[FreeReign]

For ILLEGAL immigrants, that protection is best achieved by discouraging them from breaking those laws that make them easy targets of coyotes and cheap-labor scofflaws.

Ironically, from the article, the Pope didn't mention "illegal" immigrants.

WND:The pontiff, asked by reporters on his flight to the U.S. Tuesday if he would address Hispanic immigration, said the U.S. must do "everything possible to fight ... all forms of violence so that immigrants may lead dignified lives." Tancredo also took exception to the pope telling U.S. bishops Wednesday in Washington, "I want to encourage you and your communities to continue to welcome the immigrants who join your ranks today, to share their joys and hopes, to support them in their sorrows and trials and to help them flourish in their new home."

[gidget7]

Thank you! Yes the Pope talked about immigration, but it is only logical that every latin American resident can't be accommodated by the US. He is a brilliant man, and I doubt he meant that. He spoke of many countries who have immigrated here, as well. And I believe he meant LEGAL immigration. As for bringing Catholics in from those countries, they have Churches in all of them, predominately Catholic. And most of them are far more strict about Church doctrine than the US Churches are, as a whole.

[FreeReign]

The Church is spectacularly ignorant of America and freedom as we accept it.

Got quotes that support your point?

[Cyropaedia]

We do have an official Ambassadorship to the Vatican.