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Iraq - Sadr threatens to declare 'open war' if crackdown continues
AFP via translation | April 19, 2008

Posted on 04/19/2008 2:40:07 PM PDT by HAL9000

via translation -

Sadr threat of an "open war" if the attacks against him are continuing

NAJAF (Iraq) - The head radical anti-American Moqtada Sadr threatened Saturday to launch "an open war" if the operations of American and Iraqi forces against his movement continued, in a statement signed by him and published in Najaf (south of Baghdad).

"I give a final warning, and I gave my word to the Iraqi government to choose the path of peace and stop the violence against its own people, if it is a government of destruction," the young religious leader.

"If it does not stop the action of militias who have infiltrated the government, we declare an open war until the liberation," warns Moqtada Sadr, whose militia, the Mahdi Army, the most powerful ' Iraq has some 60,000 combatants.

"I ask the government to require the occupant of a timetable for withdrawal as soon as possible," says Moqtada Sadr, whose fighters are engaged in deadly clashes against Iraqi and American troops in his Baghdad stronghold, Sadr City .

In this text sent to the "mujahideen well loved and faithful", he assured, "they accuse me of being in the hands of Iran, but I belong to Iraq. I belong to the will of my people. "

"The occupier has targeted with its planes, its tanks, its bombing and sniping," he adds. "Without our support, this government would never have been formed. But because of its alliance with the occupation forces, it is neither independent nor sovereign, as we would like it to be."

"Gaza was surrounded, and everyone was silent. Today, it was the turn of Sadr City and Basra, and everyone remains silent. Where are human rights? Where are the laws you take, in the name of freedom and democracy? "he says.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alsadr; basra; endgame; iraq; moqtada; najaf; sadr; sadrcity

1 posted on 04/19/2008 2:40:08 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

So, will Sadr’s endgame mark the restart of the Israel-Hezbollah war? Been nearly 2 years now.


2 posted on 04/19/2008 2:42:29 PM PDT by DrGunsforHands
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To: HAL9000

Good post. The statement by Al Sadr made CNN but not FR until now.


3 posted on 04/19/2008 2:43:08 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: HAL9000; Chieftain

EWWWWWWwww.Scairy Mookie Alert!


4 posted on 04/19/2008 2:43:58 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie ( WE NEED A TROOP SURGE IN CHICAGO !!)
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To: HAL9000

When you let a guy get away with murder, everything he does after that is your fault. We better end this game now or the guy will just get stronger.


5 posted on 04/19/2008 2:44:47 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: HAL9000
Troops entered the northern Hayaniyah district of Basra and took control in an operation lasting several hours, interior ministry spokesman Major General Abdel Karim Khalaf said. "We launched an operation in the morning. There was some exchange of fire. The operation is now over in Hayaniyah without any strong resistance," Khalaf told AFP.
6 posted on 04/19/2008 2:48:28 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: purpleraine

drag all the women and children out of Sadr-City.....
then force every man to strip, and come out naked or Die. and then level the place.
then Tell the Iranian with the tiny close-set eyes to send us the Little fat Punk Bitch or we send them a sample of our best Atomic technology.....and Hang him at dawn.

then bomb them anyway.


7 posted on 04/19/2008 2:52:41 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: HAL9000

Reading Mookie’s words, who does he think he is, William B Travis at the Alamo?


8 posted on 04/19/2008 2:53:06 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (spot on)
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To: HAL9000

MANY mistakes have been made in the prosecution of this war. One of the biggest has been to leave this MAGGOT alive. The USA needs to consider staying out of wars it is not going to fight to WIN quickly, swiftly, and decisively with minimal cost in lives and money.


9 posted on 04/19/2008 2:54:12 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: HAL9000

Is this the grossly fat guy that looks like a pig?


10 posted on 04/19/2008 2:54:51 PM PDT by kjo
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To: HAL9000
Moqtada Sadr threatened Saturday to launch "an open war"

Ok Mookie, we'll take that bet.

11 posted on 04/19/2008 2:55:44 PM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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To: HAL9000

Sadar,.. don’t open that can of worms. You’ll not like the end results.


12 posted on 04/19/2008 2:55:50 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: HAL9000
"Without our support, this government would never have been formed."

True enough, and one of our bigger mistakes. We let him shoot his way into the government. Hopefully, this time we (or the Iranian government) will discourage his pretensions more thoroughly.

13 posted on 04/19/2008 2:56:01 PM PDT by Grut
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To: HAL9000

Hopefully he will declare open war, whatever that means, so they can finally grease this POS!

What will it take????


14 posted on 04/19/2008 2:56:20 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: SandRat
Sadar,.. don’t open that can of worms. You’ll not like the end results.

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15 posted on 04/19/2008 2:59:47 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: EagleUSA
One of the biggest has been to leave this MAGGOT alive

Dead on accurate. Time to wait for him to sneak back into the country, then to bury his corpse in a swamp so nobody ever finds it.

16 posted on 04/19/2008 2:59:53 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: LtKerst

I’ll have what you’re having.


17 posted on 04/19/2008 3:04:00 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: HAL9000

He whines as bad as Barack Hussein Obama.


18 posted on 04/19/2008 3:04:23 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: RightWhale

this is good news - the beginning of the end for Sadr and his henchmen (and women). Finish that mop-up operation and get on with establishing a real peace for the Iraqi.


19 posted on 04/19/2008 3:06:19 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: HAL9000
Bring it on, Mookie. Go down in a blaze of glory. A**hole.
20 posted on 04/19/2008 3:09:24 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: EagleUSA

“The USA needs to consider staying out of wars it is not going to fight to WIN quickly, swiftly, and decisively with minimal cost in lives and money.”

That’s what Washington assured us would happen in this war. Of course, Iraqi oil was also going to pick-up the tab too. Suppose we were lied to?


21 posted on 04/19/2008 3:09:44 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: HAL9000
"Gaza was surrounded, and everyone was silent. Today, it was the turn of Sadr City and Basra, and everyone remains silent. Where are human rights? Where are the laws you take, in the name of freedom and democracy? "he says.

Wow, this guy has chutzpa

Mookie seems to have forgotten the "laws" of the Iraq government.

22 posted on 04/19/2008 3:17:35 PM PDT by Popman (Typical bitter white male clinging to my religion and guns......................)
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To: HAL9000

Read Our Lips, Mookie: NFW!


23 posted on 04/19/2008 3:20:30 PM PDT by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: EagleUSA

Like another freeper says, maggots have at least SOME us - this guy is a TAPEWORM.


24 posted on 04/19/2008 3:28:09 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: HAL9000
"Go ahead, make my day."
25 posted on 04/19/2008 3:29:16 PM PDT by afortiori
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To: elpadre

Showdown


26 posted on 04/19/2008 3:35:11 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: HAL9000

I think he doesn’t have the support among the people that he used to have, or they would have raised all hell back when the Ieaqi first went inro Basra...His supporters are desrting him.


27 posted on 04/19/2008 3:36:53 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Tin eared zeroes and Hollypukes comin...)
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To: HAL9000
Translation: I'm getting the crap beat out of me and if you don't stop I'm going to hold my breath until i turn blue.
28 posted on 04/19/2008 3:41:29 PM PDT by rwlawrence
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To: EagleUSA

> The USA needs to consider staying out of wars it is not going to fight to WIN quickly, swiftly, and decisively with minimal cost in lives and money.

By default, then, any enemy willing to enter into a protracted war against US interests is going to win automatically. Somehow that doesn’t seem like a good viable plan to me.

> One of the biggest has been to leave this MAGGOT alive.

His usefulness on this orb has about hit its expiry date. It’s about time he went away and never came back.


29 posted on 04/19/2008 3:42:36 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: HAL9000

> In this text sent to the “mujahideen well loved and faithful”, he assured, “they accuse me of being in the hands of Iran, but I belong to Iraq. I belong to the will of my people. “

Is this nasty little man Sunni or Shiite? Anyone know?


30 posted on 04/19/2008 3:45:14 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: HAL9000
"I ask the government to require the occupant of a timetable for withdrawal as soon as possible," says Moqtada Sadr,

About 60 days from January 20, 2009 if Obama and Hillary are in the White House.

Otherwise, not in his lifetime.

Ridiculous that American foreign policy could be so radically different depending on which party is in power.

The terrorists really have nothing to lose in holding out until election day, they might get lucky.

31 posted on 04/19/2008 3:46:38 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Shiite


32 posted on 04/19/2008 3:51:11 PM PDT by xone
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To: DieHard the Hunter

By default, then, any enemy willing to enter into a protracted war against US interests is going to win automatically. Somehow that doesn’t seem like a good viable plan to me.
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If a war is worth entering, it should be fought...not used as a pit of attrition for US soldiers and taxpayer money. The “protracted” warfare concept should be banned, at least as far as the USA is concerned. Because of it, the Islamofascists, and other oppressive, rogue, and communist nations have little respect for US resolve when it comes to military force and the use of it. Viet Nam was the crowning example of that horror story. I had hoped we would never again see a “pussy foot” politician-run war. I know, I was there. Viet Nam could have been won in a relatively short period of time, and without the loss of 50,000 lives...which only served to suit political objectives, and not the objective of the war.

Let us hope that this kind of scenario does not plague our nation again, and the world comes again to know the US is not playing political games, when it comes to the use of military power.


33 posted on 04/19/2008 3:54:58 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: xkaydet65
Reading Mookie’s words, who does he think he is, William B Travis at the Alamo?

Well Travis was first to die. Thats about the only comparision I would like to see happen

34 posted on 04/19/2008 3:57:03 PM PDT by Bommer (Hmmm who to vote for? A Far leftist? A Radical Leftist? Or a Republican that enjoys being a Leftist?)
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To: afortiori

...excellent...”I know what you’re thinkin’, punk...”


35 posted on 04/19/2008 3:57:44 PM PDT by nicko (CW3 (ret.) CPT, you need to just unass the AO; I know what I'm doing- Major, you're on your own.)
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To: xone

> Shiite

Cheers for that, then. That explains quite alot. Like why people think he is for Iran, when he claims to be pro-Iraq.

The nasty little man is not to be believed, and is probably better off hanged. But he does raise some interesting points.

So far in the prosecution of the War in Iraq the West has managed to knock over a pro-Sunni government (thus by definition pro al Qaeda) and put in its place a democratic government that is likely to side with Iran, given half the chance.

Why don’t we instead partition Iraq into three: the top bit goes to the Kurds, the middle bit goes to the Sunnis (it’s all desert anyway, and they are used to that) and the bottom bit goes to a new Iran once we have invaded, knocked over their government, hanged Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his forty thieves, and re-established the house of Shah.

That to me, sounds like a great plan.


36 posted on 04/19/2008 4:01:21 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: EagleUSA

> Viet Nam was the crowning example of that horror story. I had hoped we would never again see a “pussy foot” politician-run war. I know, I was there.

I’m going to begin this response properly, with Respect: thanks for your Service. You guys were heroes to my generation.

> If a war is worth entering, it should be fought...not used as a pit of attrition for US soldiers and taxpayer money. The “protracted” warfare concept should be banned, at least as far as the USA is concerned

This would require quite a bit more national resolve than we have seen from the American people and their presidents for quite some time — certainly not in my lifetime anyway. Not even during Reagan’s administration was there the national resolve that would be necessary to drive this thru. Truman and Eisenhower would be the last presidents of a country willing to wage decisive warfare.

Disappointing, actually: I thought George W Bush might just have had the right stuff — he probably did. The missing bit was roughly 50% of America who didn’t.

There’s nothing wrong the the US Armed Forces in this regard: it comes to a question of capturing the national will to fight. I would have hoped that after suffering 4,000 civilian deaths needlessly on 9/11 at the hands of the enemy, that would have been more than sufficient to catalyze the Nation. Evidently not.


37 posted on 04/19/2008 4:12:45 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

There’s nothing wrong the the US Armed Forces in this regard: it comes to a question of capturing the national will to fight. I would have hoped that after suffering 4,000 civilian deaths needlessly on 9/11 at the hands of the enemy, that would have been more than sufficient to catalyze the Nation. Evidently not.
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Yes, I agree and a good post sir. This society has more interest in “feeling good” about themselves and things, is far too self-absorbed. The focus on our country, our principles and core values, has become very secondary especially to the socialist-educated young folks. We have some hard times ahead, that will only be rectified by hard lessons which a generation must learn at GREAT cost to America and all the things our generation respects and loves about this country and its heritage.


38 posted on 04/19/2008 4:20:40 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: DieHard the Hunter

It IS a great plan. Hence Pelosi and her band of RATthugs won’t let it come to fruition.


39 posted on 04/19/2008 5:01:34 PM PDT by libsmacker75
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To: kjo

He’s the leader of the Shiite Out Of Luck Faction.


40 posted on 04/19/2008 5:48:48 PM PDT by edpc (Republican Attack Machine Field Service Technician)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Is this nasty little man Sunni or Shiite?

Shi'ite. Lebanese ancestry. His daddy was a big Shi'ite noise who may or may not have been assassinated by Saddam's boys (this being the middle east it could have been anyone but most people think Saddam). He isn't especially respected in Islamic circles - never made it out of their seminary. They used to call him "Mullah Atari" because he liked video games more than studying.

Back-channel word is that Sistani is the reason Mook hasn't taken a dirt nap yet. What his relations with Maliki are is anyone's guess but it may be that Mook isn't real sure that protection is good anymore which is why he's been so scarce in Iraq. If he's outlived his usefulness to the Iranians he's toast.

41 posted on 04/19/2008 5:59:49 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: purpleraine

We should have ended this game several years ago when we had this rat holed up in the mosque.


42 posted on 04/19/2008 6:01:48 PM PDT by festus (Fred Thompson '08)
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