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To: keats5
No. I think everybody came with their mind made up, and wanted to find fuel to prop up their already determined belief system. I include myself in this description. This supports Stein’s point: people first determine their belief system, and then they search out supporting “science”. For this reason, it’s folly to pretend that science and philosophy can be separated.

Is that the way science should be approached, and is Stein film contributing to getting people to view the issues objectively or exacerbating the problem?

104 posted on 04/22/2008 7:55:37 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
You asked: “Is that the way science should be approached, and is Stein film contributing to getting people to view the issues objectively or exacerbating the problem?”

My reply: I don't know. However, until we admit that people from both sides interpret science through their own world views, we will never get anywhere. That is why philosophy used to be considered together with science, and was itself considered a science. I'm beginning to think that, in this fallen world, this issue will never get to the point that we have a clear consensus.

The evos insist that believers rule out the possibility of a designer, and define science in a way that does just that. The believers insist that science be broadened to consider things beyond the material world. For the most part, people chose one side or the other.

I have. I'm a believer. I certainly understand the other point of view, but it is one which I do not adopt, nor do I want it forced upon my children as the one and only possible viewpoint. I would hope we could we focus on teaching our children the 99.9% of science that has nothing to do with origins, and place the other philosophically based issues about origin in a class which teaches both sides (a philosophy of science type course.)

124 posted on 04/22/2008 11:23:26 AM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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