Posted on 04/25/2008 12:41:31 PM PDT by Jim W N
Revelations that the March 29 phone call that sparked a raid on a West Texas polygamist compound may be a hoax have led prosecutors to doubt the reason for the original search-and-arrest warrant that granted authorities access to the Yearning For Zion Ranch.
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It doesn’t really matter why they first went in there. Not anymore.
Unless they knew the woman was a fake, this doesn’t matter. Thank God.
This woman may be crazy but she did those young girls a huge favor.
Oopsy.
Can you say "defective Warrant"?
I knew you could.
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This won’t stop the process that is currently underway. The authorities have a strong “good faith” claim if it is challenged.
As to Weiner, such a volume of crap is bound to have a peanut or two in it.
When they started taking large numbers of kids away from their parents I told The General (aka: the wife) that this was going to end badly.
As a rule, there are damn few reasons the State can use for taking kids away from their parents and when they do they MUST be absolutely sure of why they are doing it. To not have overwhelming proof is inexcusable in this case.
I’d guess their money worries are over...
Medication.
With “uncanny intuition” (or maybe it was just my inate mistrust of government at all levels)I said some of these same things in posts regarding another thread on this issue a week or so ago.
I was roundly criticized as a lover of child rapists and a supporter of criminals and law breakers (which I am NOT), and lectured almost endlessly about my lack of knowledge of the U.S. Constitution, when I deigned to question the legality of the warrant.
My guess is all those “Constitutional scholars” and self-righteous “law and order” folks will be lining up to apologize to me now.
Or not.
Because Savage is rightfully suspicious of government and its shady motives.
If 10% of the accusations about the FLDS are true, then they needed to be busted, however the goobermint didn’t have enough evidence to justify a raid - until the got the apparent “hoax” call. I wouldn’t be half surprised if the “call” came from a Texas CPS employee!
Since the raid, they have separated families, done mass DNA testing, questioned HUNDREDS of people; all in an effort to “save the children” and make a case against a few perverted men.
This kind of tactic by our supposed “civil servants” stinks to high Heaven and has no place in a supposedly free society.
It DOES matter.
Or our Constitution means NOTHING.
Point out which part of the Constitution was violated in this raid.
The 4th Amendment. And the 5th Amendment.
The Fourth Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
What, pray tell, is reasonable about a warrant issued under flase pretenses? The prosecutors know this and while they can still protect the kids they knw they cannot prosecute anyone in this matter due to the fraudulent nature of the original warrant.
They got the warrant in good faith, they had no reason to think the call came from somewhere other than the ranch.
Now if they knew that the call was fake and they got the warrant anyway, well then they are in hot water.
That is not what happened, as far as we know.
“I wouldn’t be half surprised if the “call” came from a Texas CPS employee!”
I bet a $100 FR donation that it did, earlier this week.
Looks like I am going to have to pay up, what with that nut job in Colorado, or whatever.
But, it is not proven yet.
I think you are making a HUGE assumption when you say “they got the warrant in good faith”.
How do you KNOW this?
My guess is all those “Constitutional scholars” and self-righteous “law and order” folks will be lining up to apologize to me now.
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Doubtful. Too much seedy stuff uncovered since they went in.
And I believe that the supremes, ruling on a Virginia case, ruled that search and seizure is OK even when an arrest violates state law.
No bet, but I’ll donate it anyway.
After all, the people inside the system know best how to abuse the system.
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