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Iraqi girl who fell in love with BRITISH soldier is murdered by her own father in honour killing
Daily Mail ^ | April 27 08

Posted on 04/27/2008 10:59:23 AM PDT by camerakid400

A teenage Iraqi girl who fell in love with a British soldier when he was in Basra was murdered by her father in an "honour killing", it was revealed today. Rand Abdel-Qader, 17, was suffocated and then hacked at with a knife after her family discovered she was friends with the 22-year-old soldier who she knew only as Paul.

The pair first met when Rand was working on an aid project for displaced families but it is thought the soldier is unaware of the girl's fate.

She was stamped on, suffocated and stabbed - leaving her with puncture wounds all over her body, including her face.

Her own mother, Leila Hussein, has spoken out about the crime, revealing how her husband called out that he was cleansing "his honour" as he carried out the murder.

She told the Observer he was arrested after the brutal murder but was released without charge two hours later because it was an "honour killing".

"He was released two hours later because it was an 'honour killing'. And unfortunately that is something to be proud of for any Iraqi man," she told the paper.

Rand claimed she was in love from the first moment she met the soldier, who had been working alongside her on an aid project where she was volunteering.

She immediately told her best friend she was dreaming they could have a future together.

Five months on, she was brutally killed and buried without the traditional mourning ceremony in a mark of her "impurity".

Her uncles are also said to have spat on her body because of the shame they felt she had brought on the family.

The fact her relationship with the British soldier she knew as Paul was entirely innocent was not enough to save her.

According to the Observer, she was seen conversing intimately with him and because he was a British "invader" and the enemy, this could not be tolerated.

The pair last saw each other in January but her father, Abdel Qader Ali did not learn of their friendship until two months later on March 16.

He was told by a friend that his daughter had been seen with the soldier and stormed home to confront her.

Ms Hussein described to the paper how he was in a complete rage and trembled as he asked Rand if the story was true, before starting to hit her repeatedly.

She said: "She started to cry, she was nervous. He got hold of her hair and started thumping her again and again.

"I screamed and called out for her two brothers so they could get their father away from her. But when he told them the reason, instead of saving her they helped end her life."

Qader Ali had used his own feet to press down on Rand's throat until she stopped breathing before cutting at her body with a knife, she said.

Sgt Ali Jabbar of Basra police said: "Not much can be done when we have an 'honour killing'. You are in a Muslim society and women should live under religious laws."

Ms Hussein has now divorced her husband and is in hiding under the care of a charity for fear of reprisals from his family for speaking out.

A charity spokeswoman said: "She has been threatened by her husband's family and is very scared."

The Ministry of Defence is thought to be trying to track down the soldier, who is believed to have no idea his friendship with Rand might have put her at risk.

There is no official policy on advising troops how to behave with Iraqi women when they are deployed to the country.

An MoD spokeswoman said: "They are not told: don't go and fall in love."

The murder is believed to be the first "honour killing" in the war-torn country involving a British soldier.

But there were 47 such killing of young women in Basra alone last year and just three convictions, according to the city's Security Committee.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: honorkilling; iraq; iraqichildren; islam; muslimwomen; uktroops; warromance
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1 posted on 04/27/2008 10:59:23 AM PDT by camerakid400
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To: camerakid400

Barbarians.


2 posted on 04/27/2008 11:01:49 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: camerakid400

“...her husband called out that he was cleansing “his honour” as he carried out the murder.”

No honorable father would murder his 17 year old daughter.

Animal. Product of a dirtbag culture and false religion.


3 posted on 04/27/2008 11:02:33 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: camerakid400

That poor girl.


4 posted on 04/27/2008 11:03:48 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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To: camerakid400

What is wrong with these people!


5 posted on 04/27/2008 11:04:28 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: camerakid400
"Not much can be done when we have an 'honour killing'. You are in a Muslim society and women should live under religious laws."

Muslims are "religious" to the extent that they hate every single blessing in God's creation.

6 posted on 04/27/2008 11:05:13 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: camerakid400

> Sgt Ali Jabbar of Basra police said: “Not much can be done when we have an ‘honour killing’. You are in a Muslim society and women should live under religious laws.”

Some cop. These Muslims are a real class act.


7 posted on 04/27/2008 11:05:26 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: camerakid400

What moron in the Bush Administration thought that these animals could be civilized?


8 posted on 04/27/2008 11:06:39 AM PDT by KantianBurke (President Bush, why did you abandon Specialist Ahmed Qusai al-Taei?)
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To: icwhatudo
Sgt Ali Jabbar of Basra police said: "Not much can be done when we have an 'honour killing'. You are in a Muslim society and women should live under religious laws."
9 posted on 04/27/2008 11:06:44 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: icwhatudo

Islam


10 posted on 04/27/2008 11:07:28 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: steelyourfaith

God, NOT Allah, weeps for this. THIS is Sharia, THIS is the Islamic Law of the Land. America, NEVER let it become ours. Research, study, be vigilant and wake up!


11 posted on 04/27/2008 11:09:12 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: camerakid400

These are the stunted fundamentalists that the Maliki government are slowly dis-empowering after liberating Basra from Sadr’s control.


12 posted on 04/27/2008 11:09:21 AM PDT by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes Central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: steelyourfaith
These bast**** don't know the meaning of the word “honor”.
13 posted on 04/27/2008 11:09:39 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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To: steelyourfaith
Barbarians.

Agreed, both the educated and uneducated. The soldier should have know to keep his distance from this girl, that being said, I think we need to pull out and let them kill each other.

14 posted on 04/27/2008 11:10:57 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: KantianBurke

“What moron in the Bush Administration thought that these animals could be civilized?”

What morons on the left think that they can be sweet-talked or negotiated with? Answer: ALL of them.


15 posted on 04/27/2008 11:11:05 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: steelyourfaith

Not barbarians.

You sully the good name of self-respecting barbarians everywhere by associating them with muslims.

These so-called “people” are lower than animals, sub-human in every way.
There is no other way to describe them.


16 posted on 04/27/2008 11:11:35 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: camerakid400

The tolerant benevolent religion of peace strikes again.


17 posted on 04/27/2008 11:11:35 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: camerakid400

I’m sure the brave feminists of the National Organization for Women are at this moment packing their bags for Iraq, and that the conciousness-raising protests they will organize will soon dominate each and every evening newscast. Especially that of Katie Couric.


18 posted on 04/27/2008 11:12:19 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: icwhatudo
In India a hundred years ago, the attitude of the British was different:
The proper answer to such gambits was formulated in the 19th century by General Charles Napier when dealing with sutte, the Indian custom of burning a widow on her husband’s funeral pyre: “You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours.”

19 posted on 04/27/2008 11:13:42 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." — George Orwell)
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To: camerakid400

Rand Abdel-Qader, 17

20 posted on 04/27/2008 11:14:30 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: KantianBurke

“What moron in the Bush Administration thought that these animals could be civilized?”

The dream began with one British elitist named Gertrude Bell in 1900. The UK & US have been trying to correct this mess ever since. At least McCain has the right idea: a pro-western regime, rather than a western-style regime.


21 posted on 04/27/2008 11:14:43 AM PDT by littlehouse36 ("Capitalism or Socialism" is a false dichotomy)
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To: llandres

The only difference is Bush’s course of action has cost us quite a bit in terms of blood and treasure. Stories such as this one cast serious doubt as to the wisdom of his policy of nation building in Islamo nut nations.


22 posted on 04/27/2008 11:16:07 AM PDT by KantianBurke (President Bush, why did you abandon Specialist Ahmed Qusai al-Taei?)
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To: camerakid400

The islam-a-nazies are such good people who respect women. We should invite millions of them here so that we can good about our diverseness. Just like the euro-wiennies have.


23 posted on 04/27/2008 11:16:27 AM PDT by fella (Is he al-taquiya or is he murtadd? Only his iman knows for sure.)
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To: rawhide

A beautiful 17 year old young lady beaten to death by her own father. Where the hell is the honor in that??


24 posted on 04/27/2008 11:17:30 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (I miss Ronnie!!!!!)
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To: camerakid400
And people still think we need to stop fighting these Jihadists? People don't understand why the mostly inept Bush administration is not dumb enough to miss this one; that the Bush administration is scared enough to continue to fight this war even though the President, true to his dimwitted nature, continues to deny that Islam is at the heart of the violence?
25 posted on 04/27/2008 11:19:16 AM PDT by LifeOrGoods? (Liberalism=stupidity=Obama=false 'hope'=true defeat)
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To: camerakid400
Hmmm ~ typical Iraqi ~ no sense of honor.

Why don't we just cordon off the best oil fields, push these people out into the desert, and steal what we need.

26 posted on 04/27/2008 11:19:17 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: camerakid400
Hmmm ~ typical Iraqi ~ no sense of honor.

Why don't we just cordon off the best oil fields, push these people out into the desert, and steal what we need.

27 posted on 04/27/2008 11:19:17 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rawhide

Look at those eyes. This makes me weep.


28 posted on 04/27/2008 11:20:08 AM PDT by littlehouse36 ("Capitalism or Socialism" is a false dichotomy)
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To: icwhatudo

What’s wrong with them?

No Jesus, No Peace

Know Jesus, Know Peace

simple but true.


29 posted on 04/27/2008 11:21:19 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Steely Tom

It is amazing to me that America sends females into Iraq to protect and defend these evil scumbags.


30 posted on 04/27/2008 11:21:46 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: PapaBear3625

What a great quote (and custom).


31 posted on 04/27/2008 11:22:14 AM PDT by jim-x (God help America survive its enemies within.)
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To: org.whodat

We Can Not ‘pull out.’ President Bush has said America’s duty is to bring Democracy to the world.

More than a hundred years ago, Rudyard Kipling spoke of ‘the white man’s burden.’ Today we know that was a rascist statement. We know that not only White Men can be civilized. Today, we should speak of the Burden of the West to civilize and democratize our brothers who suffer under superstition and tyranny.

Not only will we be doing good for them, but we will ensuring they will never again threaten us or our friends.


32 posted on 04/27/2008 11:23:48 AM PDT by FFranco
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To: org.whodat

“I think we need to pull out and let them kill each other.”

OMG. I beseech you to learn about radical Islam and its “God-given mission”. It’s not about killing each other, that’s just distracting fallout, it’s about killing ALL non-Muslims (Israel AND the West being top priorities)and re-establishing Islam as the power dominating the planet. Read their teachings, listen to/read the experts and scholars on this, of which there are many (and a significant of former Muslims themselves).

Because we made the mistake of pulling out of Afghanistan immediately after defeating the Russions there, Bin Laden and Al Queda along with the Taliban, established a firm foothold and safe haven in our void. It haunts us to this day, but to make the same error this time quite possibly will be fatal.


33 posted on 04/27/2008 11:23:49 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: icwhatudo
Our elected leaders continue to LIE to us and call this historically BARBARIC cult a "religion of peace."

Fact is that Islam was founded on murder, hatred, rape and violence. It has not changed one hair since its invention.

I find it depressing that the majority refuses to acknowledge this politically incorrect and HISTORICAL fact.


34 posted on 04/27/2008 11:24:33 AM PDT by Prole ("American Citizens should not fear the government. The government should fear American Citizens.")
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To: camerakid400

This is accordance with their Sharia law.


35 posted on 04/27/2008 11:25:29 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: muawiyah
Why don't we just cordon off the best oil fields, push these people out into the desert, and steal what we need.

Every other deserving society in history would do the same, but we have somehow become a feminized society in which true progress will never allowed to be maintained at the expense of the political leverage given to the politicians of our p*ssy-whipped, balless, gutless geldings we call males.

36 posted on 04/27/2008 11:27:31 AM PDT by LifeOrGoods? (Liberalism=stupidity=Obama=false 'hope'=true defeat)
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To: littlehouse36

and I just threaten to ground my teenager.

maybe take away her car for the afternoon.


37 posted on 04/27/2008 11:28:56 AM PDT by Selmore (If your gonna take the hill, take the hill.)
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To: rawhide
How beautiful Rand was.
I pray that she is in Heaven with no more pain and suffering.

Rest in Peace.

38 posted on 04/27/2008 11:29:49 AM PDT by mickie
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To: KantianBurke

“The only difference is Bush’s course of action has cost us quite a bit in terms of blood and treasure. Stories such as this one cast serious doubt as to the wisdom of his policy of nation building in Islamo nut nations.”

A) Pulling out now will cost us countless MORE blood and treasure, but B) GW has made some gross blunders in non-planning and misguided idealism. I agree with the above poster’s take - our goal should be to build pro-Western allies (highly attainable), NOT persistently attempt to westernize, democratize them which is almost always a losing proposition in that part of the world.


39 posted on 04/27/2008 11:32:06 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: mickie
I pray that she is in Heaven with no more pain and suffering.

Its unlikely she had accepted Jesus as her Lord and Savior.

40 posted on 04/27/2008 11:32:21 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: fella

Millions of them ARE already here (including some decidedly UN-invited ones lying in wait).


41 posted on 04/27/2008 11:33:53 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: camerakid400

We should of just nuked the whole region from orbit.


42 posted on 04/27/2008 11:35:25 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: camerakid400

and that is why we need to fight. Muslims measure of strength is to kill your own-women and children of course. real tough! This is a monstrosity. We ARE better than them and that is why we WILL defeat them.


43 posted on 04/27/2008 11:36:27 AM PDT by bubman
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To: llandres
It’s not about killing each other, that’s just distracting fallout, it’s about killing ALL non-Muslims (Israel AND the West being top priorities)and re-establishing Islam as the power dominating the planet.

I don't know where you get this "re-establish" stuff. Islam was was established after Christianity, and long after Judaism.

44 posted on 04/27/2008 11:37:09 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: camerakid400

Poor little thing. I guess suffocating her wasn’t enough for the impotent ones. Taking her life wasn’t enough to make them feel like a man. They were threatened by her body and had to mutilate that as well.


45 posted on 04/27/2008 11:37:49 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: 4yearlurker

Where the hell is the honor in that??

The sooner Americans wake up and learn THEIR beliefs and teachings (rather than making the deadly mistake of judging them by OURS), the safer we have a chance to be.


46 posted on 04/27/2008 11:38:01 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: org.whodat

The real reason we are in Iraq is to establish a working front against these terrorists. We need to preemptively get to them before they get to us more than they already have. This war is only a piece in the puzzle, my friend. We still have much to change as far as domestic security, but this war is certainly not a mistake by any stretch of the logical and realistic imagination.


47 posted on 04/27/2008 11:38:06 AM PDT by LifeOrGoods? (Liberalism=stupidity=Obama=false 'hope'=true defeat)
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To: icwhatudo

“What is wrong with these people!”

What is NOT wrong with these people? Isn’t it about time to ask, those politicians who continue to proclaim that Islam is a ROP, what they base their erroneous opinion on?

Isn’t it about time to realize that Islam and Western culture will NEVER be able to co-exist peaceably?


48 posted on 04/27/2008 11:40:12 AM PDT by 353FMG (Don't make the mistake to think that Government is a Friend of the People)
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To: camerakid400

Ann Coulter is right. You first kill their leaders and then convert the rest to Christianity. Problem solved.


49 posted on 04/27/2008 11:40:41 AM PDT by upsdriver (My kingdom for an acceptable presidential candidate!!)
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To: upsdriver

Bomb them into submission, sell the surviors into slavery. Salt the earth and take the oil.
There, I settled the Muslim problem...


50 posted on 04/27/2008 11:43:46 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( I graduated from school of life, got my degree from the school of Hard Knocks)
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