[ricks_place]

While the LDS don't condone polygamy or child abuse, the bishop said, the raid has in some ways forged a small connection between the two religions.

LDS denial appears very soft and sympathetic to the FLDS.

[ricks_place]

ping!

[stockpirate]

Did you guys knwo that the Bible says in the latter days seven women will hold onto one man and be called by his name?

Are we in the latter days?

[Leisler]

Umba gumba bump.

[Revelation 911]

and sometimes ludicrous questions directed at people of the Mormon faith.

like baptism for the dead, planet kolob, the atonement at Gethsemane, Jos Smiths 14 yr old bride, mountain meadow massacre, Kinderhook plates, changing revelation, the mysterious book of mormon (transcribed in KJV english), the angel moroni, apostolic lineage, freemasonry - etc etc

[JRochelle]

What is the thing with horns?

I never in my life heard that silly nonsense.

[FastCoyote]

[The LDS, historically a persecuted group of people, can sympathize with a church under siege.

“Watching them [Texas Rangers] go into the temple down there, going through it, made me think of the Nauvoo era: just run them out and do what they want to with the building,” Bushman said. “Obviously we understand that a little bit. That’s in the back of our heads.”]

Oh Dear Lord, LDS Apologists for Child Rape. Some of us have been telling you all how Joseph Smith’s seed was as evil as it gets.

[Antonio C]

Agreed. That’s why I think the LDS should also be investigated. They’re all members of Joseph Smith’s cult.

[broncobilly]

The Baptists also seem soft on Polygamy.
Some of the early Baptists in Germany were polygamist.
Also, in Africa, the Baptists originally allowed their converts to retain their polygamy.

“As must be evident by now, before their missionaries came, one of the major attractions to the BaptistChurch was initial toleration of polygamist. It appeared also that initially the Baptists did not firmly take as negative an attitude to ancestor veneration as did the C.M.S. But according to Agbaluwa, a Baptist minister, the practice was never approved of “but people being so used to it mixed it up a little”.[12] Thus, many who enlisted in that church were at first able not only to keep their harems of wives but also to pay some homage to their departed parents[13] both of which practices were not allowed by the C.M.S. As the Baptist were to change their attitude towards polygamy later, this attraction belonged only to the first phase.”

[Zakeet]

Ping.

[Colofornian]

“I've had a lot of my neighbors come up” and make inquiries, said Bishop Bushman's First Counselor Jared Seegmiller, who explains to them that the FLDS splintered off from the mainstream LDS Church after the latter renounced polygamy and threatened to excommunicate practitioners of plural marriage.

You can tell that Mormons' PR agents aren't Paul Harvey types (who supply "the rest of the story"). I'd like to see Bishoip Bushman's answer when his neighbors come up to him holding a copy of LDS apostle's Bruce McConkie's Mormon Doctrine, 1966 edition:

"Obviously the holy practice (of polygamy) will commence again after the Second Coming of the Son of Man and the ushering in of the millennium." (Mormon Doctrine, 1966 edition, see pp. 577-579 for context)

Uh, Mr. McConkie...I know you're deceased...but maybe one of your proxies can explain how it is that LDS regard polygamy as you a "holy practice" and yet it will ex-communicate those who practice this "holy practice?"

Furthermore, how can a Mormon being ex-communicated if they are merely living as Brigham Young, Joseph Smith and the other 70 deceased LDS polygamist general authorities (their top leaders)?

"Families are forever"--the Mormon bumper sticker--is too widely known for LDS leaders to try to weave & bob around that...oh, polygamy is terrible, a communicable disease that will get you ex-communicated...oh, wait, up to 1/3rd of the Mormon church was once polygamous and they are now living on their own planet with many wives...plus thousands of others have been sealed to multiple spouses (men AND women) "for eternity" in the Mormon temple--people who have been married serially & not simultaneously as a polygamist...they, too, become colonized polygamists the moment they & their spouses have died.

(No wonder it gets terribly confusing to ex-fundie mainstream Mormons...how can they condemn a practice other "faithful" Mormons are engaging in on other planets and will one day be re-instated on the Mormon earth).

[Colofornian]

From the article: Texas officials have played a role in the confusion. Even while acknowledging the two religions are separate, Judge Barbara Walther, of the 51st District Court, asked FLDS attorneys on April 21 to find members of local LDS congregations to supervise the FLDS women and children while they prayed. Bushman was among those who got a call to do it. “I said, 'No thank you, that's not quite our job,' ” he said. “I would feel a little awkward. . . . I don't want to be a party to something that may or may not be right.”

Well, Bushman is right about one thing--it's really NOT the primary role of an LDS bishop to go around & be in a prayer environment with others--like you might see a Protestant pastor do at times. The main role of an LDS bishop is to literally "judge" the heart of its ward members. (He has to ask about 18 questions of the ward members to determine if they are "spiritually worthy" to receive a temple recommend from him).

So, had the judge asked him to be a judge, well, that would have been more up his alley. Prayer supervision? Well, as he said, "No, thank you. That's not quite our job."

[AppyPappy]

I saw the Mormon kid next door reading Harry Potter one day. The Mormons must worship Harry Potter.

[Elsie]

Amid confusion, LDS clarify faith

 

 

I challenge ANY MORMON's in these threads to CLARIFY just what was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANISM that Joseph Smith claimed to have LEARNED!

 

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http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

[wardaddy]

Amid confusion, LDS clarify faith

They better, not that it will help them with some here

[SkyPilot]

Amid confusion, LDS clarify faith