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Posted on 04/29/2008 5:56:55 PM PDT by XR7
LORETITO, Mexico — It's the end of the day here. Down one lonely street two young boys kick a ball between them, as an elderly woman slowly makes her way nearby.
On most days, this little town about 300 miles northwest of Mexico City feels like the set of a Hollywood movie — its narrow streets and alleyways silent, stark, deserted.
From the sidewalk outside his small liquor shop, Edmundo Cruz takes in the vast emptiness, pointing out one house after another left vacant when families headed north — to Seattle.
It is said more Loretito people now live in the Seattle area than currently live here.
"Boys, as soon as they turn 16, leave to find work up north," said Cruz, who used to do siding and construction work in Seattle. He said he came back last year to be with his wife.
"It can get pretty quiet around here."
Loretito, a town of a few hundred, is like many across Mexico, where large numbers of men — and increasingly women — journey to the border and slip illegally into the U.S. in search of work.
What they leave behind is a town of small children, a few women and older people.
"There are whole towns like these all across Mexico where kids haven't seen their parents in four, five years," said the Rev. Walter Coleman, pastor of a Chicago church and a pro-immigrant activist who's visited some of these towns.
"They are totally dependent economies, waiting for money to come from the states to finish the next wall for the new room."
Towns like these are fertile ground for smugglers — so-called coyotes who come recruiting for the journey north. For $3,000, they usually take people from here to the U.S. via the Arizona town of Nogales...
(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...
How many times is this repeated all over the US of A?
There is no border control.
What a joke.
Instead of letting La Raza call the tune, why don’t we just make Mexican’s into Americans by annexing the sh1thole, tossing all the corrupt cops and politicians into Guatamala, and cleaning the place up?
Good idea, Michael. I’m answering this quickly before the administrator kicks you off for suggesting an invasion!
tossing all the corrupt cops and politicians into Guatamala, and cleaning the place up?
Oops, I thought you were talking about Washington D.C., Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc., etc.
We would need to clean up our own mess before we start trying to clean up someone elses.
People who can come up with $3,000.00 for a coyote, and apparently own their homes (in order for them to have remained empty while they are in the US), are not exactly destitute by Mexican standards.
Just what all the liberal leftists RATS need in King County where there are more millionaires concentrated than any other place in the state.
Maybe we can send the Seattle libs down to Loretito.
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You got that right....it is a joke. I can’t believe that people don’t get it. If the government really wanted to close the border they would do it. They don’t want the border closed.....simple as that.
I live 3 hours to the West of Seattle. Now there will be one more reason not to bother to go there.
It’s a shame...I lived over there many long years ago, it was fun way back then. I had always dreamed of coming into the downtown by way of the water, on my own boat. Now that I own one, it doesn’t seem like it’s worth the disgust I would feel about that place.
Goodbye Seattle.....RIP
the Cincinnati Enquirer did an article about the illegals in
southern Ohio/Northern KY. Most come from some little village in Mexico, everyone leaves when they are 14-16 years old and head this way. It seems like many of them settle in Warren County {Mason) and Butler County. Lately I have been seeing more and more in Clermont County. It seems we are being overrun and nobody cares.
A little village is “overrunning” two Ohio Counties? That’s nonsense. Something you need to understand... most Mexican adults are, in some sense, homeowners. They may only have joint ownership with their siblings of a shack, but they are homeowners, so of course they’ll have a piece of property in their name in Mexico.
If there is no work at home, and a relation has a job in the U.S., people are going to emigrate to where their relations live, or where they know people. My German ancestors did that in the early 1800s and my Irish ancestors in the 1840s. They were also despised for their “foreign ways” and religion. Nothing changes, except the bigots now use the internet.
Gosh, If Jeremiah Wright is correct, he should go down there and warn them that going to “Seattle” is actually going to”Hell.” Why doesn’t he warnthem? Doesn’t he like Mexicans?
So maybe we oughta stop raggin' about it as a campaign issue and figure out how in the world to work it to our advantage, eh? Like ol' W?
Problem is, our German relatives, and Polish, and Hungarian, etc. woyuld still like to do that - but our gubbamint makes it impossible for them. But if you are Mexican, then come on in! I suspect that is why folks are really p.o.'d.
I’ve been living in Bellevue, a suburb of Seattle, for over 10 years now. Its been startling how quickly the demographics have changed in this town. Every single restaurant and many other businesses are now all mexicans who barely speak english.
I’m sure half of that mexican ghost town is working at the Azteca and Red Robin down the street.
And read that last sentence, “now they all have children there.”
Every morning when I’m driving to work, the street I live on is lined with large apartment complexs and the school buses make many pickups on this street.
80% to 90% of the kids are mexicans, with a few indian and asian kids whose parents work at Microsoft mixed in. Its an anchor baby parade.
Whoops. I forgot. I’m a racist for talking about any of this. My bad.
Were your grandparents here legally- were they put through the process of actually becoming an American? Or were they here illegally, like most of the aliens from Mexico? Are you here legally? How can I trust you even if you say you are because you are evidently someone who doesn't believe in the rule of law? BTW: My great-grandparents immigrated to the U.S. and became U.S. citizens, and I come from a family with a long heritage of God-fearing and law-abiding. Fellow law-abiders like myself do not usually look kindly upon lawbreakers, whether domestic or foreign.
First time I heard that the early German immigrants were despised. History does not bear that out. Sure there were problems with the Irish, but this was generally confined to New York City.
The comparision with the latest migrants is like apples and oranges. Like some came to integrate and eventually love America, others now come to exploit it's welfare system. Something the early immigrants did not have. Work, or go hungry, for them.
They worked.
I agree that they should not be allowed to traipse across the border as they see fit, but you must concede that Mexicans seem to have a work ethic—as opposed to a whole slew of “Americans” whose ancestors came here over a century ago. It remains to be seen whether or not their spawn will retain this work ethic.
As for the dude who wanted to annex Mexico—I’m with you there. Think of all the cheap real estate that retiring boomers could snatch up!
That’s right, the early immigrants didn’t have the welfare system, but they had pride and determination. They had too much pride to try to slip into the U.S. without “paying the fare” and they had the determination to make their family’s life better, while making America better in the process. The legal immigrants of yesterday and today are the ones who have made America great, while the illegal immigrants are far, far different: they have held America up at gunpoint and dwindled her resources by stealing the breadbasket from her generous arms.
Yah... them illegals is just takin’ jobs from all those Americans standing in line for jobs in landscaping. And fast food. American high school kids are just destitute without those fast-food jobs like when I was a kid.
Don’t get me wrong. We should have a defensible border. But we should also have a more sensible foreign worker system so that enough can come in legally to fill the jobs that are available. Right now we don’t do either. We have a porous border and a job surplus.
If we create a better controlled way for enough workers to come in legally to work, it would make the border control problem much easier to manage.
Actually, the “legal” immigrants of before were so mainly because there wasn’t a limit on how many could come over, merely on who could come over.
Processing of immigrants at Ellis Island didn’t start until 1892. Before that, immigrants pretty much just got off the ship at the docks and walked ashore.
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How many of those jobs are actually needed because and only because there are 20 or so millions of crimaliens that need to buy food; buy gas; buy cheap Chinese imported crap from Wal-Mart; need cars repaired; need clothes, need social services, medical care, schools, JAILERS, ...and the list goes ever onward.
IOW, if all of them (including their "anchor babies) packed up and left, how many jobs would be vacated vs haw many would still need to be filled by somebody else?
Idiot-—
America is an independent sovereign nation. No one, no nation, no Mexico, has a right to invade us. Take your accusations of bigotry and get lost
correct! If we transplanted 25% of Guatemala onto American soil that would also increase our GDP.
We have already allowed 15-25% of Mexico to import themselves here. Much of the economic activity they generate is simply the support structure of food stores etc that grow up around them. These illegals sure as hell aren’t needed in construction. That boom is over yet we cannot get rid of these imported leeches
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As do the pimps for foreign interests.
Bingo!
I just got an e-mail from a buddy of mine whose mother worked for 40 years from 42-82 retired and now gets $791. from social security.
In the same e-mail he pointed out how immigrants over 64 can get as much as R2,400 per months due to their "circumstances".
How can we support a govt. that has created a system like this?
It's bad enough that the illegals get across but how many terror types are you willing to let into the country?
“What they leave behind is a town of small children, a few women and older people.
“There are whole towns like these all across Mexico where kids haven’t seen their parents in four, five years,” said the Rev. Walter Coleman, pastor of a Chicago church and a pro-immigrant activist who’s visited some of these towns. “
Family values.....
“. My German ancestors did that in the early 1800s and my Irish ancestors in the 1840s. They were also despised for their “foreign ways” and religion. Nothing changes, except the bigots now use the internet.”
What part of illegally breaking into this country and using a citizens ID don’t you get?
“If we create a better controlled way for enough workers to come in legally to work, it would make the border control problem much easier to manage.”
How many foreign entries would you allow legally each year?
I have no idea. But if they’re coming here to work and there’s a job for them to do, those people aren’t the problem.
It’s the ones sneaking in to do harm that are the problem, and right now we can’t tell the difference.
“I have no idea. But if they’re coming here to work and there’s a job for them to do, those people aren’t the problem.”
Well, there are 9 different visa programs with over 2 million a year coming in....legally. About half of them never leave.
Around half of immigrants are on some social services, are they a problem?
As for the jobs...Oklahoma just proved you wrong. They stopped the job and welfare magnet, the aliens are leaving and unemployment has never been lower.
Oklahoma Unemployment Is Way Down. Will Media Look into Why?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2006418/posts
Yep, learn Spanish and become the first on your block to sport a shiny new guest worker. Make all your neighbors jealous as you sit in your lounge chair drinking a margarita as Maria does the lawn on your John Deer in a teddy.
Just think of the possibilities, embrace the horror, jump on the RNC team and come on in for the big win. Inside every guest worker is a little American trying to get out, who are we to stand in the way?
Of course aliens shouldn’t be on any social programs.
Wrong? about what? There’s maybe 15 million or more illegals working in this country and unemployment remains fairly low nationwide. We obviously have a job surplus in this country.
Do you think if there were no immigrant labor in agriculture... that what... high school kids and homeless bums are gonna line up for those jobs? I don’t think so.
It’s obvious that there’s a place for immigrant labor here without “taking jobs from Americans”. We have more jobs than we have people to fill them. Plain and simple.
“Do you think if there were no immigrant labor in agriculture... that what... high school kids and homeless bums are gonna line up for those jobs? I don’t think so.”
My area has no illegal aliens working at those jobs, YES, our citizens and kids line up for them. I just showed you the facts from Oklahoma! Some of those kids you dismiss are in Iraq. Are those the worthless types you refer to? And guess what....THEY can’t find entry level jobs when they get back!
In five or ten years they will be voting. That’s when life will get exciting for you. Me, I’ll be dead and buried.
Oh please... enough. You think you’re a better American than me. Fine. Get off your high horse already.
YSo Oklahoma no longer has any illegal aliens, huh? You actually believe that? I AGREE that Oklahoma did some very promising things. I’m not arguing that. But if you think there are enough unemployed to make up the shortage of workers, then we have nothing further to talk about.
Have a nice day!
“Oh please... enough. You think you’re a better American than me. Fine. Get off your high horse already.”
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My, my aren’t we touchy...Don’t bother to address what I posted, just whine like the illegal aliens do and dream up you’re being insulted! Good Grief!
Now, smart guy, look again at what you replied to:
AuntB: “My area has no illegal aliens working at those jobs, YES, our citizens and kids line up for them. I just showed you the facts from Oklahoma! Some of those kids you dismiss are in Iraq. Are those the worthless types you refer to? And guess what....THEY can’t find entry level jobs when they get back!”
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Now, if you feel put down, THAT is your problem, bub. And YES, with idiotic responses like that, I’m a hell of a lot better American than you. First, we’re supposed to THINK.
“In five or ten years they will be voting. That’s when life will get exciting for you. Me, I’ll be dead and buried.”
And I do believe death will be the only relief from the insanity that controls our politicians and many of their supporters.
"Send them home: it is the enviro-friendly thing to do!"
Accompanied by photos of their camps etc.
"Remove 10,000,000 old oil burning, gas guzzling pollutomobiles from our highways now! Send their illegal alien owners home NOW!"
How much would that help congestion, gas "shortages"/prices etc.
"Twelve million illegal aliens are using the equivilent of (insert correct number) of filthy, coal fired power plants! Send them home, and save our environment!"
That would have to take a lot of pressure off the grids during peak times for rolling brownouts/blackouts.
You are correct!!
I’ve just spent some time reading the following article written in 1994.
I checked the date several times. Yes, 1994.
Read it.
This could have been written today, and as you will see, Reagan and his people saw this coming.
This?
The demise of conservatism, the problems of a newly defined ‘economy’, pandering to illegal immigration and the results it brings. Limiting immigration, especially illegal immigration would do more than any single thing we could do for ‘energy’ policy.
First a quote from Reagan. “Our country and state have a special obligation to work toward the stabilization of our own population so as to credibly lead other parts of the world toward population stabilization.” Ronald Reagan, Governor, State of California, Hearings before Subcommittee on Census and Population, 1974.
Fred Charles Ikle a Distinguished Scholar at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, served as under secretary of defense for policy in the Reagan administration and as director of the U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency in the Ford administration.
OUR PERPETUAL GROWTH UTOPIA
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/
Worth the read!
Thanks, AuntB; that IS worth reading.
I addressed what you posted and I even agreed with you, at least in part.
Good day.
You know, all that siding and construction work that Americans won't do.
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