Skip to comments.America is being fooled by Barak Hussein Obama! [Many Muslims are Members in (Wright's) Church]
Posted on 04/29/2008 9:49:29 PM PDT by Dajjal
N.B. bold red-letter emphasis is mine. The original article's emphasis is making the case that Barack Obama is a Muslim. My emphasis is that Rev. Jeremiah Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ claims to have "many Muslim members." --Dajjal
Press Release: America is being fooled by Barak Hussein Obama!!
[posted by] ibn Misr on February 15, 2008
We ask for your immediate attention, and viral dissemination of this news.
America is being fooled by Barak Hussein Obama!!
"YES, MUSLIMS ARE MEMBERS IN OUR CHURCH." "WE HAVE MANY MEMBERS IN OUR CHURCH WHO ARE MUSLIMS."
I am Usama K. Dakdok, President of The Straight Way of Grace Ministry. I am invited by churches all over America to speak about ISLAM and its threat to America and the West.
I have had concerns about Senator Obama's honesty regarding his so called Christian faith.
I called The United Church of Christ in Chicago Illinois, where Senator Obama is a member. If Senator Obama were indeed a Christian, he would be regarded as an "Apostate" which according to Islamic Law, would mean he would be subject to a death warrant imposed upon anyone who leaves Islam, according to the Prophet Mohammed. Many muslims who have left Islam have been murdered on this basis worldwide. Putting Islamic law aside, Obama would still be condemned by Islam. However, in Senator Obama's instance, Muslims in America are joyously happy to think that Obama would be a Muslim President in the white House. Obama is deceiving America. Muslims would not be endorsing a Muslim who left Islam and became a Christian.
It is important to note that I had four witnesses to this telephone conversation with his church. The date, time and length of the entire conversation can be verified by phone records. The following is the conversation I had with the church, regarding his membership there.
"My name is Usama, and I am from Egypt. I am interested in joining the church. I need to ask some questions please." The operator directed me to the membership office. I proceeded to ask questions that only a Muslim would ask. "What is the difference between Baptists and your church?" She responded, " We believe exactly what Baptists believe." My second question was, "How big is your church and what kind of church is it?" She responded, "We are a Black African American Church and we have 6000 members. I asked, "Do I have to attend Sunday school classes or other meetings to be a member?" She answered "No." I asked, "Do I have to be baptized to join the church?" She again answered, "No." I asked, "Do I have to pay a membership Fee to join?" Her answer was No. I then asked her what I needed to do to join. She told me that I needed to attend two Sunday School classes in a row and then I would walk the aisle. I replied, "That sounds easy. One last question please. IF I AM MUSLIM AND I BELIEVE IN PROPHET MOHAMMED, PEACE BE UPON HIM AND I ALSO BELIEVE IN JESUS, PEACE BE UPON HIM, DO I HAVE TO GIVE UP MY ISLAMIC FAITH TO BE A MEMBER IN YOUR CHURCH?" SHE ANSWERED, "NO. WE HAVE MANY MUSLIM MEMBERS IN OUR CHURCH." It is important to note that Muslims would not attend church.
I asked her, "Is that how Senator Barak Hussein Obama became a member?" There was silence. I went on and stated that his father and step father were Muslims, his grandfathers and grandmother are Muslims, his uncles and aunts, nephews and nieces and cousins are Muslims and everyone in his family in Kenya are Muslims. She replied to me, "I am sorry, I cannot answer these questions for you." I of course sensed she was uncomfortable. I ended the conversation by saying to her, "YOUR CHURCH HAS DONE GREAT HARM TO THIS COUNTRY BY COVERING A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING AND THAT WOLF IS SENATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA." End of phone call.
This is fraud to the people of the United States of America.
P.S. I am willing to expose this to the media in all outlets. God Bless America
The following is an excerpt from their FAQ page:
I would like to clarify that I did indeed place the call to Trinity United Church of Christ....
5. He [Obama] joined a cult church, a non-Christian church.
a) The church teaches separatism (black and white)
b) They teach black theology, not Christ Theology
c) The church honors and respects Islam and Muslims to the point they welcome Muslims to be members of the church and gave Louis Farrakhan an award for being the man who will unite the true Christian to the true Muslim to the true Jew. WHAT A CHRISTIAN CHURCH!
d) Why would Obama leave Islam to join such a church? He joined skillfully to cover-up, knowing that a Muslim in America would have little chance to become a senator or the president.
e) When you believe in Mohammad you deny Christ.
O.K.; everyone who is surprised at this raise your hand.
Osama Obama is not fooling anyone (who does not want to be fooled)....
Wright / Obama ping
He ain’t foolin’ me.
Moslems, members of a christian church say it aint so! Either muslams are members in name only, or this is a christian church in name only! (yes, christian is in lower case until I know more.)
I’m sorry, but I believe you can’t exactly conclude a church member’s religious beliefs from how a church operator handles what amounts to a prank phone call to the church. lol
I agree; I draw no conclusions about Obama's personal beliefs.
I post this (assuming Mr. Dakdok's honesty) as additional information about the high weirdness of Rev's Wright's church.
Well, I would judge them by the website. I’ve been keeping sharp tabs on it for over a year.
Last year it was very black separatist, with lots of marxist dogma.
This year it had a lot of the severe separatist removed, but was still quite extreme.
I checked it today and suddenly it is very Christian, with bible verses all over it. Not what it was a year ago, believe me. Actually, I find it distressing. Did they suddenly become a Christ centered church? Or are they just deciding to pull the wool over our eyes?
Then the missionaries make their biggest statement, What we would like you to know is what the American press has been keeping a dirty little secret. Obama IS a Muslim and he IS a racist and this is a fulfillment of the 911 threat that was just the beginning. Jihad is the only true Muslim way. This message comes from American missionaries who have been working among Muslim groups for the last twenty years, the last twelve among Obamas tribe (family) in Kenya.Emphasis (in red) added. Can this be dis-proven?
The assertions made by this missionary group are astounding. But the assertions raise questions which are even more astounding.
The letter further states, He is not an American as we know it. Please encourage your friends and associates not to be taken in by those that are promoting him. It is world wide jihad. - By the way, his true full name in Kenya is Barrack Hussein Muhammad Obama.
Oh, I totally agree that Obama's church is bad news. Hell, if you replaced the term "black" with the term "white"(with the content of their webpage a year ago), and if Obama were a Republican. He would have been tarred and feathered with the label of "racist who worships in an ideology of white supremacy" by the media and wouldn't have won a single primary. I just thought the whole thing with the prank phone call was a bit of a stretch.
Obama's church to me seems like a racial madrassa(spelling?).
Can one suspect that Trinity United Church of Christ may be a front for the Nation of Islam?
While there is no doubt in my mind that this "church" is nothing but a front, a fake Christian "church";
I am wondering, what is the United Church of Christ of America inc.'s position on this obvious deviation from the United churches theology?
After all, Christ states, "no one may enter the kingdom of Heaven except through me" is in complete contradiction of Wrights church, where through the teachings of Mohammad is an otional route.
The United Church of Christ acknowledges as its sole Head, Jesus Christ, Son of God and Savior. It acknowledges as kindred in Christ all who share in this confession. It looks to the Word of God in the Scriptures, and to the presence and power of the Holy Spirit, to prosper its creative and redemptive work in the world. It claims as its own the faith of the historic Church expressed in the ancient creeds and reclaimed in the basic insights of the Protestant Reformers. It affirms the responsibility of the Church in each generation to make this faith its own in reality of worship, in honesty of thought and expression, and in purity of heart before God. In accordance with the teaching of our Lord and the practice prevailing among evangelical Christians, it recognizes two sacraments: Baptism and the Lord's Supper or Holy Communion
Media avoids this question like the plague as well.
I have noticed however, that they have cleaned up the website a lot from the last time I looked when the "church" was first exposed.
Complied by Freeper Beckwith:
There is no correct spelling in Roman characters (our alphabet) for 'madrassa.' It is an Arabic word and any spelling in English is a transliteration of the sounds. Most Arabic sounds do not have exact English aequivalents -many not even close- so any spelling is an approximation of somebody's guess.
“I have had concerns about Senator Obama’s honesty regarding his so called Christian faith. “
There is no record anywhere to be found that Obama was ever baptized into the Christian faith. His children were baptized by Wright, and Wright married him, but Obama himself was not baptized into a Christian Church. All Christians are baptized. Why hasn’t Obama been, I ask you? Because to do so would be against the Muslim religion, in fact some Muslims would have him killed if he switched to Christianity which is a no no. I posted this comment below on another thread:
Something smells rotten in the Hood. Heres my take on it. I think Obama and Wright are as thick as thieves, I think they are in total cahoots. I think everything that has happened in the past week has been planned and masterminded between Obama and Wright and perhaps one or two other key players on Obamas campaign staff. I think everything has been coordinated.
Preacher Wright comes out and does his round of inflammatory speeches at the NAACP, and the Natl Press Club, and in his Bill Moyers interview. Funny that these three are all clustered within days of each other, all at once. As Obama blew his first chance at refuting Wright for his behavior for the last 20 years, both of them thinking the whole issue would die down, Obama needed a second bite of the apple. A second chance to condemn the Reverend Wright. Hence the setup. Wright does his radical religious/political rap thing three times, and Obama then says hes finally had enough and condemns and refutes and sort of disowns (however if you listen to Obamas words, he really doesnt) Preacher Wright.
Now it looks as if the two of them are at great odds and no longer like each other, right? Wrong, in the sense that this was the desired end result, to make it look like they are now at odds. Mission accomplished. Obama is now off the hook. Obama even makes sure he has an out in the very careful, slow speaking manner with which he refuted his mentor. He says Wright may do more of the same kind of speech, but he, Obama, wont be responsible for it as he cant do anything to stop Wright, and has now disowned Wright anyhow. Isnt this Machiavellian? Isnt this fun?
Now for the proof of my thinking. Preacher Wright and Obama have known each other for 20 years, both in and out of the church pew. Obama went on Louis Farrakhans million man march. Obama named his book after a phrase used by Rev. Wright, The Audacity of Hope. They are very close. Obama knows exactly where Wright is coming from, both theologically and politically. And (heres the kicker) vice versa. Wright knows everything about Obama too. He knows how Obama really thinks politically, after all Preacher Wright groomed him for the last 20 years, or perhaps indoctrinated would be a better word. Wright knows what Obama has said to him over the years, has done for and with him over the last 20 years, and has the goods on Obama big time. Wright could blast Obama into space and out of the presidential race on a politically dirty rocket in a nanosecond. Wright probably knows more about Obamas inner workings, shady deals back in Chicago, connections to Obamas political benefactor Tony Rezko now up on influence peddling and other charges back in Chicago, and may have been in on some of those deals himself. Wright could take Obama down faster than greased lightening if he wanted to. But he wont. Because they are working in tandem. They are still joined at the hip, and what we are seeing this past week is all a charade, a Potemkin village, smokey (until that became un-PC) backroom dealings to get Obama out of hot water in the political short and long run for his relationship with Wright.
Mark my words here; my political antennae are waving in the breeze. And to top it off (I believe this is coming out of Obamas camp too), the blogs are buzzing around that somehow Preacher Wright and Hillary Clinton are working behind the scenes to undermine Obama, and that Hillarys camp was somehow involved in setting up financially some of what Wright was up to this past week. I think a whisper campaign of its all Hillarys fault that this is happening has been let loose on the internet to shift the blame for Wrights actions of late on her. How convenient. Obama isnt behind this, why its Hillary. And the MSM are swallowing it whole. The MSM in general hate Hillary and will blame anything and everything on her. They will believe anything about her. Never mind, as I stated before, that Wright/Obama have a 20 year relationship, and that Wright could bring Obama down so fast his head would spin with what Wright knows about Obama and how he really thinks. Its Hillary and her henchmen to blame.
Obama and Wright must be laughing up their sleeves at how a naive and lazy press that is on Obamas side anyhow in this race, will swallow this. Tell me, does anyone really think that Wright and Hillary got together to get Obama? Do you not think that Wright wants Obama in the White House where Wright can have all sorts of influence on his protege? That Wright wants to be kingpin at the National Prayer Breakfasts? That he wants all that access to grants or funding for his church causes? That he wants to push his own peculiar brand of church politics? His Black Liberation Theology? You better believe he wants Obama in as President. They both just have to get over this little speed bump of whether Obama secretly thinks just like Wright does, and is really a divider disguising himself as a uniter, fooling us all. Preacher Wright knows exactly where Obama is coming from. If he blows the whistle on Obama publicly on what he knows, then I am wrong. If Wright doesnt, well, then draw your own conclusions. Ive drawn mine.
Thanks for the education there. From now on I'll spell it as madrasshahaha, and feel perfectly at ease. :p
America is being fooled by Barak Hussein Obama! [Many Muslims are Members in (Wright’s) Church]..
NO ONE is being fooled by b. HUSSEIN ~ the closet muzzie...all know what he is and what he stands for....
and yet the lib/dems and the msm still love hime because they hate America!!!
The media attention has caused the White United Church of Christ Board to find out what is going on, and bring Wrights church (at least on surface and website) into compliance with Organization. Otherwise they would pull their membership, and as a non profit, there goes the church. Then how do they pay for that $10 million retirement home for Wright. Lots of magical coverup to retain status in the HOME organization, UCC Denomination, which is predominatly white, so go figure. Biting the hand that feeds them, it’s a mess.
Obama joined this church for the political vote. Wright, and other BLT preachers control much of the black vote in this country, and Ferrhaken controls the muslim vote. That is why they parade around saying they are christians (which is only a cover up). UCC white denomination has been bamboozled by this group. This is politics plain and simple under the guise of non profit religion.
There were 8-10 thousand members in this church in Illinois where he was running for Illinois Senate, and his stepping stone to the US Senate. These people are cons, and they are highly educated and this game play now is about SOCIAL CONTROL, and I studied it in college myself. There is no anger at each other, this is a political move.
Thanks for the PING Fred!
I agree. however, Arabic does have a very close phonetic resemblamce to Klingon. A very violent language, though at times poetic.
I always thought of Arabic as originally being a result of some form of laryngeal cancer or possibly a brain peculiarity. I had not thought of it being derived from Klingon but theat is not impossible..
On the other side of the coin is the 'pass' given Obama's apostacy from Islam--by muslims, something otherwise unheard of--to the point he has spoken without being decried as apostate in front of Muslim groups.
One more rotting fish on the cart full of offal won't change the smell much, but it does add its own fragrance to the stench.
Thanks for the ping, Dajal.
She replied to me, "I am sorry, I cannot answer these questions for you." I of course sensed she was uncomfortable.
Thanks very much for the ping, Dajjal. Thanks to every poster/linker/researcher/educator on this thread.