[Vio24]

You are being disingenuous because you are a McCain hater. He voted against the tax cuts because he believed there should have been corresponding cuts in spending. I was 100% in favor of the tax cuts but cannot blame him for standing on this principle. My take is that if it was HIS vote that would decide yea or nay on the tax cuts he would have voted for them. I also disagreed with his campaign spending legislation but understood where it was coming from. As for his breaking under torture while being held prisoner, you actually seem to believe that there are some among us that wouldn't ever break. It shows your complete and utter ignorance in this area. No one, and I mean NO ONE can withstand real torture for any length of time without giving up all he knows. The fact McCain, even after being tortured gave up the names of the Green Bay packers linemen instead of his squad members and the fact we have the word of a Medal of Honor winner speaking to the honor and courage of this man speaks volumes.

Just be like the rest of the lunatics who will stay home because their candidate didn't get the nomination. Better yet why not just vote for the liberal in the general election. WOWEE, that'll sure show the GOP won't it?

I'm STILL waiting for the links to the sources that will FULLY explain your list of grievances with McCain. Perhaps they will not leave out why he did what he did, like you have done.

[shrinkermd]

You are doing a good job. Unfortunately, reason and logical argumentation is not what the McCain bashers want.

I am unsure whether they really believe a man who received the Silver Star is a coward, but I know what they really hate about McCain. They hate McCain because he posed a solution to the illegal problem. They hate the Mexicans even more than they hate McCain. They will initially deny it and cover it over with claims “its just about not obeying the laws” but there is a test.

We could solve the illegal problem tomorrow with a national ID card. Bet that these “real conservatives” will oppose it because of, “...show me your papers...” paranoia.

In the meantime you are right in assuming anyone can be broken with time and effort. Actually, give me the help of skilled anesthesiologist and about an hour and a half and I will break anyone.

It isn’t fear of death that breaks a person (that helps) but the fear of psychological distress and pain that will do him in. The NVA were amateurs when it came to their efforts at breaking our aviators but they were vicious and uncompromising.