Posted on 05/02/2008 3:50:06 AM PDT by Man50D
With virtually no fanfare, President Bush has signed into law a plan that orders the government to take no more than six months to set up a "national contingency plan" to screen newborns' DNA that would be put into use in case of a "public health emergency."
Further, the new law requires that the results of that DNA program, including "information … research, and data on newborn screening" shall be assembled by a "central clearinghouse" and be made available on the Internet.
According to records of Congress, S.1858, sponsored by Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., was approved in the Senate on Dec. 13, 2007, in the House on April 8 and signed by Bush on April 24, 2008
"Soon, under this bill, the DNA of all citizens will be housed in government genomic biobanks and considered governmental property for government research," said Twila Brase, president of the Citizens' Council on Health Care. "The DNA taken at birth from every citizen is essentially owned by the government, and every citizen becomes a potential subject of government-sponsored genetic research."
She has objected extensively to plans in the state of Minnesota to provide state government the same option now handed to the federal government by Congress.
The bill, she said, strips "citizens of genetic privacy rights and DNA property rights. The bill also violates research ethics and the Nuremberg Code.
"The public is clueless. S. 1858 imposes a federal agenda of DNA databanking and population-wide genetic research," she continued. "It does not require consent and there are no requirements to fully inform parents about the warehousing of their child's DNA for the purpose of genetic research
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
So everyone’s DNA will be on file. They say it will be used for genetic research. A lie. Within a few years a law will be passed to allow it to be used for determining parentage. Then just about the time that the first subjects are old enough to commit their first crime, laws will be passed to use the database in “law enforcement”.
Criminals will know this, and obtain DNA from an innocent person and spread it around at a crime scene to get the innocent person convicted.
I am glad I am done having kids.
I would certainly refuse to allow any such samples be taken, knowing where they would end up.
Might as well just insert a chip into ‘em at the same time.
“Might as well just insert a chip into ‘em at the same time.”
That’ll probably be next. Then the cops won’t have to *ask* to see ID and you won’t even know it’s being done.
WELCOME to the Feudal Manor.
An incompetent, and error-prone judicial system, perhaps??
I agree.
Sad times, indeed.
No offense and pardon my graphic depiction of the process but, while you are (splayed in the stirrups), they take your newborn away "to be processed" and by law they WILL be drawing their DNA sample at the same time they are finger/foot printing your newborn slave to the State. For your entire stay, they have more access to your baby than you do. Just saying, you won't have any say, and may not even be told. Blackbird.
Will this include anchor babies? Didn’t think so.
Yeah, I am aware of that...don’t like it but I am aware of it.
Thats my point: I won’t have to fight with them to keep them from taking my newborn’s dna.
I feel sorry for those so inclined to try to keep their children’s privacy private.
As you have described, it won’t happen.
But you can bet that every person that was in the military over the last 20 or so years is already there.
There is a military DNA database, but so far, it is only to ID military when other means fail.
I also would be unsurprised if the insurance companies clamor to get access to this data so they can set individual insurance rates for people tempered to their individual DNA.
Votes on Passage
Dec 13, 2007: This bill passed in the Senate by Unanimous Consent. A record of each representative's position was not kept.
Apr 8, 2008: This bill passed in the House of Representatives by voice vote. A record of each representative's position was not kept.
Naturally, nobody complained.
You want to see what the next attacks on your liberty and privacy are, look at those despised by society.
"When they came for the Jews..."
I’ll bet most people don’t even know about this. I didn’t know until right now.
Ping to traviskicks.
I searched under “DNA database” and found this thread after reading the following about my state: a bill here now proposes to add “minor offenders” to the state’s DNA database which links to the “federal National DNA Index System.”
http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080516/NEWS01/805160386/1006
Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
nice find
Can someone please tell me how a Big Brother DNA data base containing info on every newborn child can help the coountry in time of “national emergency”? If a child has a genetic abnormality or is a carrier for such, it should be a private matter between the child’s family and his or her physicians and health care providers. Government should simply butt out. Privacy over one’s medical information is essential to a civilized society!
In this instance, Dr. Paul, as an obstetrician, has more scientific expertise on the subject at hand (newborns) than any other congressman as well.
Things are far worse than I thought.
apparently the sky is falling
You think this is a good thing?
“Thats my point: I won’t have to fight with them to keep them from taking my newborn’s dna.”
I guess you leave that to your kids to fight ‘them’ if they so choose to. Why not join that fight now? You know, do it for your grandkids or future grandkids, you know leave them a better world and all.
Let freedom die a certain death ping-a-ring-a-ding-dong-do.
“The public is clueless”
So what’s new?
On a more serious note, at some time in our past clueless citizens surrendered their right to privacy. Perhaps it was for a false sense of security. Ron White got it right: “you can’t fix stupid.”
The Matrix has you...
Cripes, everything from sheep to chickens to children, every knee must bow to these fascists?
If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers – normally good Americans, but Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free, Americans who have been lulled away into a false security.
- Ezra Taft Benson, An Enemy Hath Done This
>Can someone please tell me how a Big Brother DNA data base containing info on every newborn child can help the coountry in time of “national emergency”? If a child has a genetic abnormality or is a carrier for such, it should be a private matter between the child’s family and his or her physicians and health care providers. Government should simply butt out. Privacy over one’s medical information is essential to a civilized society!<
There will come a time when over population worldwide wioll be a dire concern. Since abortion is legal now, it doesn’t take a brainy scientist to figure out what is around the corner. Perhaps sterilizing babies when they are first born if their geneology doesn’t match what ‘society needs’.
I intend on mailing in an absentee ballot for Paul when it is time to vote.
Yes, just as fingerprinting was before.
Ah yes, good ol’ Chris Dodd. Wasn’t it his daddy that brought us the Gun Control Act of ‘68? The one that was translated and copied from a similar Nazi law?
Sso Claire, is it time yet?
So McCain supported it, as did Obama & Hillary!
And Ron Paul was opposed ...
(Think, think, think...)
"Hey, I got a great idea: Let's elect the Republican, McCain. Yay!"
/sarc for the sarcasm impaired.
Thank for the ping.
I get the impression that a lot of sheople are going to wait till the last moment, when it will be too late to do anything.
It’s clear to me which candidate is on OUR side, Ron Paul.
Appalling - bump.
It says that consent is not needed and I do not even have to be informed.
But... what if I know of it and refuse? Is there and ‘opt out’?
Another building block for totalitarian socialism.
google “T-4 program” then think of this in terms of nationalized health care. The folks that are going to be running the old folks home will literally end up selecting people to be eventually euthanized when the budgets start having shortfalls.
google “T-4 program” then think of this in terms of nationalized health care. The folks that are going to be running the old folks home will literally end up selecting people to be eventually euthanized when the budgets start having shortfalls.
You’d support the goobermint proactively filing everyone’s fingerprints in the entire country without any particular probable cause on a case by case basis????? In addition to being just plain creepy, it tilts the balance of power farther in favor of the government over their ostensible masters when it’s already too far in that direction. They should be surrendering liberties they’ve already stolen, not stealing more.
They should be surrendering liberties they’ve already stolen, not stealing more.
Amen. But I won't hold my breath waiting.
“Hey, I got a great idea: Let’s elect the Republican, McCain. Yay!”
If it wasn’t so sad it’d be lol.
Lordy, Lordy, Lordy. As I live and breathe.
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