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National DNA database gets kickstart from feds
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | May 01, 2008 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/02/2008 3:50:06 AM PDT by Man50D

With virtually no fanfare, President Bush has signed into law a plan that orders the government to take no more than six months to set up a "national contingency plan" to screen newborns' DNA that would be put into use in case of a "public health emergency."

Further, the new law requires that the results of that DNA program, including "information … research, and data on newborn screening" shall be assembled by a "central clearinghouse" and be made available on the Internet.

According to records of Congress, S.1858, sponsored by Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., was approved in the Senate on Dec. 13, 2007, in the House on April 8 and signed by Bush on April 24, 2008

"Soon, under this bill, the DNA of all citizens will be housed in government genomic biobanks and considered governmental property for government research," said Twila Brase, president of the Citizens' Council on Health Care. "The DNA taken at birth from every citizen is essentially owned by the government, and every citizen becomes a potential subject of government-sponsored genetic research."

She has objected extensively to plans in the state of Minnesota to provide state government the same option now handed to the federal government by Congress.

The bill, she said, strips "citizens of genetic privacy rights and DNA property rights. The bill also violates research ethics and the Nuremberg Code.

"The public is clueless. S. 1858 imposes a federal agenda of DNA databanking and population-wide genetic research," she continued. "It does not require consent and there are no requirements to fully inform parents about the warehousing of their child's DNA for the purpose of genetic research

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; bravenewworld; dna; jbts; privacy

1 posted on 05/02/2008 3:50:07 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D
Text of S.1858 Newborn Screening Saves Lives Act of 2007
2 posted on 05/02/2008 3:57:20 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Republican...because not everyone can be on welfare.)
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To: Man50D
Here's something for your data bank.


3 posted on 05/02/2008 4:07:58 AM PDT by billorites (Freepo ergo sum)
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To: Man50D

So everyone’s DNA will be on file. They say it will be used for genetic research. A lie. Within a few years a law will be passed to allow it to be used for determining parentage. Then just about the time that the first subjects are old enough to commit their first crime, laws will be passed to use the database in “law enforcement”.
Criminals will know this, and obtain DNA from an innocent person and spread it around at a crime scene to get the innocent person convicted.


4 posted on 05/02/2008 4:13:28 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (fascism is wrong even when practiced by the government)
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To: Man50D

I am glad I am done having kids.

I would certainly refuse to allow any such samples be taken, knowing where they would end up.

Might as well just insert a chip into ‘em at the same time.


5 posted on 05/02/2008 4:14:39 AM PDT by Adder (typical bitter white person)
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To: Adder

“Might as well just insert a chip into ‘em at the same time.”

That’ll probably be next. Then the cops won’t have to *ask* to see ID and you won’t even know it’s being done.


7 posted on 05/02/2008 4:23:50 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Man50D
“The DNA taken at birth from every citizen is essentially owned by the government, and every citizen becomes a potential subject......

WELCOME to the Feudal Manor.

8 posted on 05/02/2008 4:31:03 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: NotMeAgain
Hey, if you’ve done nothing wrong, what do you have to fear?

An incompetent, and error-prone judicial system, perhaps??

9 posted on 05/02/2008 4:38:26 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: PLMerite

I agree.

Sad times, indeed.


10 posted on 05/02/2008 4:39:37 AM PDT by Adder (typical bitter white person)
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To: Adder
I am glad I am done having kids. I would certainly refuse to allow any such samples be taken, knowing where they would end up. Might as well just insert a chip into ‘em at the same time.

No offense and pardon my graphic depiction of the process but, while you are (splayed in the stirrups), they take your newborn away "to be processed" and by law they WILL be drawing their DNA sample at the same time they are finger/foot printing your newborn slave to the State. For your entire stay, they have more access to your baby than you do. Just saying, you won't have any say, and may not even be told. Blackbird.

11 posted on 05/02/2008 5:20:37 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (2008 Election: Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest!)
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To: Man50D

Will this include anchor babies? Didn’t think so.


12 posted on 05/02/2008 5:37:29 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Energy plan: Build refineries and nuke plants, drill for our oil, mine our coal.)
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To: BlackbirdSST

Yeah, I am aware of that...don’t like it but I am aware of it.

Thats my point: I won’t have to fight with them to keep them from taking my newborn’s dna.

I feel sorry for those so inclined to try to keep their children’s privacy private.

As you have described, it won’t happen.


13 posted on 05/02/2008 5:42:26 AM PDT by Adder (typical bitter white person)
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To: CPOSharky

But you can bet that every person that was in the military over the last 20 or so years is already there.


14 posted on 05/02/2008 5:44:23 AM PDT by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: Delta 21

There is a military DNA database, but so far, it is only to ID military when other means fail.


15 posted on 05/02/2008 5:56:11 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Energy plan: Build refineries and nuke plants, drill for our oil, mine our coal.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
A lie. Within a few years a law will be passed to allow it to be used for determining parentage. Then just about the time that the first subjects are old enough to commit their first crime, laws will be passed to use the database in “law enforcement”.

I also would be unsurprised if the insurance companies clamor to get access to this data so they can set individual insurance rates for people tempered to their individual DNA.

16 posted on 05/02/2008 7:34:56 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: rabscuttle385
From the THOMAS votes tracking page:

Votes on Passage

Dec 13, 2007: This bill passed in the Senate by Unanimous Consent. A record of each representative's position was not kept.

Apr 8, 2008: This bill passed in the House of Representatives by voice vote. A record of each representative's position was not kept.

17 posted on 05/02/2008 7:42:35 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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To: Man50D
This issue is already lost. States are passing laws to collect DNA from all registered sex offenders retroactively without "due process of law."

Naturally, nobody complained.

You want to see what the next attacks on your liberty and privacy are, look at those despised by society.

"When they came for the Jews..."

18 posted on 05/02/2008 7:47:57 AM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters!)
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To: Clint Williams; traviskicks

I’ll bet most people don’t even know about this. I didn’t know until right now.

Ping to traviskicks.

I searched under “DNA database” and found this thread after reading the following about my state: a bill here now proposes to add “minor offenders” to the state’s DNA database which links to the “federal National DNA Index System.”

http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080516/NEWS01/805160386/1006


19 posted on 05/16/2008 10:31:50 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Man50D
U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, was one of the few voices to warn of the dangers. Before the plan's approval, he said, "I cannot support legislation, no matter how much I sympathize with the legislation’s stated goals, that exceed the Constitutional limitations on federal power or in any way threatens the liberty of the American people. Since S. 1858 violates the Constitution, and may have untended consequences that will weaken the American health care system and further erode medical privacy, I must oppose it."

Yeah, he sure sounds nutty. Not.
20 posted on 05/16/2008 10:38:15 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Tired of Taxes; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; ...


Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
21 posted on 05/16/2008 9:37:27 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Tired of Taxes

nice find


22 posted on 05/16/2008 9:39:10 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Man50D

Can someone please tell me how a Big Brother DNA data base containing info on every newborn child can help the coountry in time of “national emergency”? If a child has a genetic abnormality or is a carrier for such, it should be a private matter between the child’s family and his or her physicians and health care providers. Government should simply butt out. Privacy over one’s medical information is essential to a civilized society!


23 posted on 05/16/2008 10:05:41 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: mysterio
As you probably know, Ron Paul is the best congressman in Washington, generally speaking, when it comes to protectecting real constitutionally-granted civil liberties from government's ever-expanding reach for power.

In this instance, Dr. Paul, as an obstetrician, has more scientific expertise on the subject at hand (newborns) than any other congressman as well.

24 posted on 05/16/2008 10:10:42 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: traviskicks

Things are far worse than I thought.


25 posted on 05/16/2008 10:13:49 PM PDT by murphE (I refuse to choose evil, even if it is the lesser of two)
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To: murphE

apparently the sky is falling


26 posted on 05/16/2008 10:17:42 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine

You think this is a good thing?


27 posted on 05/16/2008 10:22:17 PM PDT by murphE (I refuse to choose evil, even if it is the lesser of two)
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To: Adder

“Thats my point: I won’t have to fight with them to keep them from taking my newborn’s dna.”

I guess you leave that to your kids to fight ‘them’ if they so choose to. Why not join that fight now? You know, do it for your grandkids or future grandkids, you know leave them a better world and all.


28 posted on 05/16/2008 11:20:18 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; George W. Bush; Revelation 911; NapkinUser; DreamsofPolycarp; The_Eaglet; ...

Let freedom die a certain death ping-a-ring-a-ding-dong-do.


29 posted on 05/16/2008 11:22:22 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Man50D

“The public is clueless”

So what’s new?


30 posted on 05/16/2008 11:59:43 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (shshshsh, the sheeple are sleeping and do not wish to be disturbed,)
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To: Man50D

On a more serious note, at some time in our past clueless citizens surrendered their right to privacy. Perhaps it was for a false sense of security. Ron White got it right: “you can’t fix stupid.”


31 posted on 05/17/2008 12:08:45 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (shshshsh, the sheeple are sleeping and do not wish to be disturbed,)
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To: Man50D

The Matrix has you...


32 posted on 05/17/2008 12:18:58 AM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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To: CJ Wolf

Cripes, everything from sheep to chickens to children, every knee must bow to these fascists?


33 posted on 05/17/2008 3:29:55 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: mysterio

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers – normally good Americans, but Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free, Americans who have been lulled away into a false security.

- Ezra Taft Benson, An Enemy Hath Done This


34 posted on 05/17/2008 7:11:46 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: justiceseeker93

>Can someone please tell me how a Big Brother DNA data base containing info on every newborn child can help the coountry in time of “national emergency”? If a child has a genetic abnormality or is a carrier for such, it should be a private matter between the child’s family and his or her physicians and health care providers. Government should simply butt out. Privacy over one’s medical information is essential to a civilized society!<

There will come a time when over population worldwide wioll be a dire concern. Since abortion is legal now, it doesn’t take a brainy scientist to figure out what is around the corner. Perhaps sterilizing babies when they are first born if their geneology doesn’t match what ‘society needs’.


35 posted on 05/17/2008 7:16:42 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: justiceseeker93; mysterio

I intend on mailing in an absentee ballot for Paul when it is time to vote.


36 posted on 05/17/2008 7:17:56 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: murphE

Yes, just as fingerprinting was before.


37 posted on 05/17/2008 7:36:49 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Man50D

Ah yes, good ol’ Chris Dodd. Wasn’t it his daddy that brought us the Gun Control Act of ‘68? The one that was translated and copied from a similar Nazi law?

Sso Claire, is it time yet?


38 posted on 05/17/2008 7:54:32 AM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: mysterio
U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, was one of the few voices to warn of the dangers. Before the plan's approval, he said, "I cannot support legislation, no matter how much I sympathize with the legislation’s stated goals, that exceed the Constitutional limitations on federal power or in any way threatens the liberty of the American people. Since S. 1858 violates the Constitution, and may have untended consequences that will weaken the American health care system and further erode medical privacy, I must oppose it."

So McCain supported it, as did Obama & Hillary!
And Ron Paul was opposed ...

(Think, think, think...)

"Hey, I got a great idea: Let's elect the Republican, McCain. Yay!"

/sarc for the sarcasm impaired.

39 posted on 05/17/2008 8:54:53 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: CJ Wolf

Thank for the ping.

I get the impression that a lot of sheople are going to wait till the last moment, when it will be too late to do anything.

It’s clear to me which candidate is on OUR side, Ron Paul.


40 posted on 05/17/2008 9:46:52 AM PDT by FReepapalooza (Joshua 3:4 ..."for ye have not passed this way heretofore.")
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To: Man50D

Appalling - bump.


41 posted on 05/17/2008 11:10:29 AM PDT by ellery (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock -T. Jefferson)
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To: Man50D

It says that consent is not needed and I do not even have to be informed.

But... what if I know of it and refuse? Is there and ‘opt out’?


42 posted on 05/17/2008 3:59:47 PM PDT by KarenMarie
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To: Man50D

Another building block for totalitarian socialism.


43 posted on 05/17/2008 10:38:28 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Man50D; All

google “T-4 program” then think of this in terms of nationalized health care. The folks that are going to be running the old folks home will literally end up selecting people to be eventually euthanized when the budgets start having shortfalls.


44 posted on 05/18/2008 8:12:04 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Man50D; All

google “T-4 program” then think of this in terms of nationalized health care. The folks that are going to be running the old folks home will literally end up selecting people to be eventually euthanized when the budgets start having shortfalls.


45 posted on 05/18/2008 8:12:04 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: purpleraine; murphE

You’d support the goobermint proactively filing everyone’s fingerprints in the entire country without any particular probable cause on a case by case basis????? In addition to being just plain creepy, it tilts the balance of power farther in favor of the government over their ostensible masters when it’s already too far in that direction. They should be surrendering liberties they’ve already stolen, not stealing more.


46 posted on 05/18/2008 5:47:28 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Typical white person)
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To: Still Thinking
Just plain creepy is right. It's as if every conspiracy theory of recent history previously ridiculed by people posting pictures of tinfoil hat wearing folks is coming true with each new headline.

They should be surrendering liberties they’ve already stolen, not stealing more.

Amen. But I won't hold my breath waiting.

47 posted on 05/18/2008 9:03:40 PM PDT by murphE (I refuse to choose evil, even if it is the lesser of two)
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To: Man50D
The Bush Legacy. One shredded U.S. Constitution gone as a Bipartisan favor to the Dems. He has done more sickening deeds for them than they could have done to us in decades.
48 posted on 05/18/2008 9:35:11 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Three Blind Rats. Three Blind Rats, See How They Run. See How They Run. Hillbomacain)
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To: dread78645

“Hey, I got a great idea: Let’s elect the Republican, McCain. Yay!”

If it wasn’t so sad it’d be lol.


49 posted on 05/19/2008 2:14:34 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Man50D

Lordy, Lordy, Lordy. As I live and breathe.


50 posted on 05/21/2008 3:30:01 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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